Originally posted by neo96
with the current state of the economy of this country

the massive unemployement, people losing there homes

um yeah LETS make a " club" for all those rich folk.....

Who do you think is going to built this mosq, er, um cultural center? It will provide jobs. It's a BIG job.

still doesnt fly for me

Thank god you aren't a pilot.

Lmfao.
So now this is a psy-op orchestrated by the US government to initiate a mass-hatred effect, same as Hitler did with the Reichstag, in order for the American public to be pissed at the average muslim?

Seriously, you guys, I know this is a conspiracy site and all, but your posts really scream "I'M A BASEMENT DWELLER - HAVN'T GONE OUT FOR MONTHS" (without trying to insult).

I mean.. you are talking as if it is a globally known fact that 9/11 was an inside job (...), comparing US government to the Nazi reign of terror, ussing piss-poor analogies, and then you have the nerve to call someone else, anyone else, a troll?
It's just a matter of time before the idiocy hits another level, be it slamming the blame on some "evil Zionist" conspiracy or some scheme by the CIA or the global elite, then you'll start saying how this and that are reptiloids and there you have it - another POLITICAL thread on ATS gone to the #-house.

You people seriously need to stop trying so hard to 'wake up' or 'seek the truth'. All you do is embarrass yourselves.


To stay alittle ON-TOPIC, there is a simple question I must ask: Is there anyone in here that will not agree that simply moving this project to a less-sensitive area will simply solve this whole conflict?
I mean, (supposing this isn't a psy-op, and it's not) if the whole intention of this mosque is to show how nice, tolerant, and peacful can the Islamic religion be, why not just move it? Why not peacful and tolerant and not insist on building this thing where the public does not want to see it?

Not asking to build a church in Mecca, or a USA memorial site in Tehran - but simply to move the mosque project away from ground zero so it would not be messing up with people's (let alone survivors or victims' families) feelings.

Is that seriously such a big deal?
If agreed, will it not be a proof of tolerance?

Is anyone really convinced that by trying to show the American public how tolerant Islam can be, the best move to do so is to insist on building a mosque in a sensitive area where obviously the majority of the American public do not want it there?


*My personal opinion - the best move is just to shut the # up. Be a beneficial member of society, or at-least a law abiding citizen (not saying American muslims aren't). Building an unwanted mosque in an unwanted location is NOT a sane way to try and get along.
If you're too stupid not to realise that, atleast don't be too stupid not to realise when it's needed to simply move the project to a different location, and then try to fit in society through Islam-related issues as much as you'd like. Personally I think the whole idea of trying to explain yourself through religion is #ed up no matter what is your religion, but meh.

[edit on 12-8-2010 by explosivo]

Originally posted by explosivo

I mean, (supposing this isn't a psy-op, and it's not) if the whole intention of this mosque is to show how nice, tolerant, and peacful can the Islamic religion be, why not just move it?

Perhaps you've missed the bit where the imam has had a mosque about a half-mile away from this site for 27 years, and his congregation has outgrown the current space?

Why should they have to leave the neighborhood they've been in for that long?

By the way, isn't it nicer to have a discussion revolving un-offensive opinions and ideas without anyone comparing anything to Nazi Germany?

For crying out loud, PLEASE stop doing that in order to keep these discussions clean.

Originally posted by explosivo
By all means if anyone is planning on moving this project another half a mile, I'll support that idea. Especially if that guy had a mosque back then in that location (half a mile away from the site you say..?)

Sorry if I wasn't clear.

He has a mosque a half mile away. The space he has there is, I believe, a storefront mosque; there's no way they could build a community center there.

neo, that was NEVER the opening date. That was a RUMOR. You sound like you've never heard this before. Do you bother reading links people post? Or do you just keep repeating the same things over and over despite that.

Originally posted by americandingbat
He has a mosque a half mile away. The space he has there is, I believe, a storefront mosque; there's no way they could build a community center there.

Are you sure you stated that right? Are you sure it isn't a mosque?

Originally posted by neo96
.. well i dont know

That I can agree with.