KKK Members Called Out At Tea Party

Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
As a few others have pointed out, where were you and the Tea Party when these EXACT SAME POLICIES were being trotted out during the last eight years?

I'm not into the Tea Party personally, because I feel they've turned mainstream and will be manipulated by the GOP to continue the two party scam, and my posts here on ATS during the last eight years clearly show my opposition to Bush's policies.

But what about all of you who have your heads buried up Obama's arse? You were SO vocal about how Bush was the devil, and going to destroy the world, but where are you NOW? When Obama is continuing the EXACT SAME POLICIES?? You're falling all over yourselves to defend it.

I ask you the same question.

Why is it bad when Bush did it, but you ignore it when Obama is doing it? Is it because you like him more? Is it because he is a harder target, ethnically, to deride (for you personally)? And I add another question. Why does ethnicity matter AT ALL here? Our federal government only cares about ONE color, green.




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reply to post by Styki

We all know that some racists will be attracted to a group with morals such as the tea party.

What morals are you speaking of?

The Tea party is not a racist organization. The media is pushing this garbage onto the public because they know the Tea Party is going to rally come election time. The opposition is shaking in their boots because like minded people came together for a cause that does not fit their agenda.

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reply to post by Styki

However, do you really expect this video to somehow prove that the tea party doesn't have racist members?

How can you prove you're not racist? How do you know what is in people's hearts? The irony is, the basis for your accusations is based SOLELY on skin color. For whatever reason, you see a big group of white people and instantly think "racist". Thats your problem.

Originally posted by DINSTAAR
reply to post by mnemeth1

 

Being mad at the federal government is a good start.

They aren't mad at the federal government, they are mad at this federal government. These people would just as easily unleash the power of the federal government against others for their own agenda. Where were these fascists when we were invading other countries illegally? Where were they when the bubble was in its largest state, and Austrian Economics foretold of impending doom?

mnemeth1, libertarians are being used and the idea of freedom is being used to tighten the leash around our necks.

It takes time and education for that to happen.

I am in agreement here, but I won't stand by idly and let the ideas of freedom be used for another assault on freedom itself. It will be 1980 all over again. Reagan killed the last libertarian push because he tricked them into playing along.

Hmmm.. No. They are mad at THE Federal Government. It's not just about whose in office, hate to break it to ya.

Would it be wrong to observe that the tea party is going to be much easier to kill than most? Or as easily as most, depending on your perspective, I suppose. They seem to fall for bait fairly and respond in ridiculous kind fairly easily. And in many ways, they brought this on themselves too.

Oh oh...they're accusing of us being racist! Let's put some blacks in front of them...that'll show them! How cliche can it get? They'd be far better served to ignore all this and carry on with their real work. You know, kind of like the big two do.

Is it just me, or does this Tea Party movement not sit right? Something about it is just...I'm not sure what it is. But I have this sense of unease when I ponder whether or not it could do good things. I like the concept of the Tea Party movement. It's got this grassroots, back to basics, home grown, honest, simple, comfortable feeling to it that is appealing. But I have a hunch it was designed to be that way. What better way to pull in all of these discontent citizens than with a brand new political movement that sounds like something that the Founding Fathers would have been involved with...heck even the name does that too!

Just my opinion here, but if people want change, it isn't going to come with a new political party. The parties are the problem. They foster division amongst people. Most importantly, they require one or more people to be in positions of power and leadership. And where there is power, there will likely be corruption.

You know I have to say it is funny sitting back watching all of this bull. The left wing radicals have nothing to b$%ch about most the time so they look for stuff. They are like little children who fall to the floor crying when they don't get their way.

They have nothing really to say about the Tea Party goers so racisim was their best shot. The funny thing is more and more the librals are looking like the morons they are. They think that this will help their cause when in fact it is hurting it. More and more minorities are seeing this and their opinions are changing.

I know numerous Mexicans, African Americans, Jamaicans, Africans, South Americans etc. that have seen the light and see what the libral media is trying to do here. They make it plain as day.

Labeling Tea Partiers racist is not going to continue working....that is the only card they could play of course, and it is making them look ignorant.

It is sad the librals actually think minorities are all stupid enough to take them for their word... and all this is coming to light.

And I think that is great. I know I am NOT a racists so saying all Tea Partiers are is simply not true. Period, end of story!

Originally posted by antonia
So politics in this country has devolved into:

"You are a racist"
"No, You are a racist".

Ok, and people wonder why I think politics is generally nothing but BS. None of you are concerned with doing anything productive. You just want to scream at each other.

Have at it Hoss.

That pretty much sums it up. Admittedly having a black President and First Lady has put the game into a different playing field. Now the game is played with ever increasing sizes to the racist cards. Michelle Obama insinuating the Tea Party Movement is racist is pretty much the largest card played thus far. So there we have it.

Does anyone else believe that this division is almost by some design? All the players seem to be people old enough to have lived through the toughest parts of racial tension - the 60's... I find it hard to believe that the ones that fought for racial unity aren't intelligent enough to see it being a dangerous path, too broken and worn to tread. Why would they be doing this if not by some design? Do they want that tension to keep dividing this Nation? Don't we have enough effing problems?

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The way it went down:

Originally the Tea Party movement came about as people organized to voice their frustration about agendas and policies that were not constitutional. As it developed into a large following the Right Wing seized the opportunity to utilize the rallies and energy of the party to gain recognition and support. As this developed the opposition of course ran their "grasping at straws" pitch of racism.

People need to remember that this was an anti incumbent movement and that th infiltration of the Republican party is for the GOP to gain momentum and further their (sometimes personal) agendas.

I implore everyone to aquire voting records and go the way of the constitution. Also, don't be snookered by the race card. This movement was originally designed to break apart the facad of there being a difference between the Right and the Left and that is the core of this "Tea Party Movement" that needs to be carried into the ballot box.

Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Would it be wrong to observe that the tea party is going to be much easier to kill than most? Or as easily as most, depending on your perspective, I suppose. They seem to fall for bait fairly and respond in ridiculous kind fairly easily. And in many ways, they brought this on themselves too.

Oh oh...they're accusing of us being racist! Let's put some blacks in front of them...that'll show them! How cliche can it get? They'd be far better served to ignore all this and carry on with their real work. You know, kind of like the big two do.

I believe the Tea Party is a litmus test for whatever comes next. They'll take whatever works out of it, shuck the rest and leave it in an unusable heap. The issue is that "what works" isn't always determined by sane, caring people. I'm sure that's obvious.

Originally posted by Digital_Reality
The Tea party is not a racist organization. The media is pushing this garbage onto the public because they know the Tea Party is going to rally come election time. The opposition is shaking in their boots because like minded people came together for a cause that does not fit their agenda.

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You nailed it! The establishment on both sides, libs and conservatives, do not like the Tea Party ppl; it threatens both sides that ordinary Americans can gain a political voice without them.

reply to post by John_Q_Llama

Is it just me, or does this Tea Party movement not sit right?

Tell me, did you feel this way with the always violent anti-Bush protests? Does it occur to you that the media didn't attack them like they go after the tea parties? Why do you think that is?

Uncle Toms. Nothing more nothing less.

Once they get used for the Tea Parties own advantage they will be quickly put back in their place. Just like all the free black men who fought off the British during the revolutionary war. As soon as the war was over they were put back in their place. Same with the Civil war. As soon as it was over they were put back in their place.

Originally posted by DINSTAAR
reply to post by mnemeth1

 

Being mad at the federal government is a good start.

They aren't mad at the federal government, they are mad at this federal government. These people would just as easily unleash the power of the federal government against others for their own agenda. Where were these fascists when we were invading other countries illegally? Where were they when the bubble was in its largest state, and Austrian Economics foretold of impending doom?

mnemeth1, libertarians are being used and the idea of freedom is being used to tighten the leash around our necks.

It takes time and education for that to happen.

I am in agreement here, but I won't stand by idly and let the ideas of freedom be used for another assault on freedom itself. It will be 1980 all over again. Reagan killed the last libertarian push because he tricked them into playing along.

You don't really want to know where these people were then, you want to use fallacious argument to support your agenda.

In reality they, and I, were right here brooding and pissed off that people would let their liberties be stolen like that.

They were protesting against the illegal TSA and all of the illegal search and seizures, they were protesting against border crossing stations 60 miles from any border and people being stopped and searched with no warrants and no probable cause.

They were waiting for enough to happen to wake up more people to the sacrifice of their liberties, so that we could rally and do something about it, and we will come November.

Will it make a difference, maybe...maybe not..... but if it doesn't us freedom loving individuals will have to band together and take it up a notch, because I would rather die than watch the greatest nation and last bastion of freedom be undermined by political and corporate interests.


Jaden

reply to post by Hudson


Oh please, I went to plenty of non-violent anti-Bush protests. Quit smearing everyone who went to them. I didn't burn down a thing and neither did anyone else I know who went to one.

Originally posted by DINSTAAR

Where were these fascists when we were invading other countries illegally? Where were they when the bubble was in its largest state

I see a bunch of predominantly older GOP supporters opposed to higher taxation and the removal of fiscal choice, along with a tiny minority of extremist loons who inevitably attach themselves to any cause for some publicity.

But all you see is "fascists".

I would imagine that if you ever had some genuine experience of some REAL fascists you would understand how patently stupid those comments are.

I'm tired of the anger against the tea party. The tea party wasn't born out of hatred of THIS administration. The tea party evolved from tax day protests of the 90's (remember those?) and it was Ron Paul's 2008 rallying cry believing his campaign had been hijacked.

Anti-Tea party seem to want to misconstrue the facts, WANTING this party to be racist, partly because of shame, and partly because they don't understand. They have been so indoctrinated with "the government will help" that anyone who speaks out is surely a traitor.

Rest assured, the tea party would still exist if that clown McCain would have won, though I don't think you would call them racist then, possibly anti-pow or some other hair-brained classification of a movement.

Democrats are Republicans and Republicans are Democrats. They are the same. They are both racist, yet the party in power doesn't get called out. The late senator Byrd, a confessed member of the KKK, is revered by your party... why? That doesn't just go away, even if he doesn't practice.

I think in all my rambling what you should understand is this: the 2 parties and not 2 parties, they are one in the same. They are also not your friend nor do they do anything good for the people, so don't root for them like they are your favorite baseball team... because you only root against yourself, you are just too blind to see it. I thought this was a forum of open and free thinkers... sadly, you are all just as blind as my straight party voting grandmother.

So in summation. BAHHHHHHH on your way to the slaughter house, there is no longer a sheep dog to protect you, you took away his teeth.

The liberals, aka progressive collectivists, HATE the T.E.A. Party because of what it really stands for, Taxed Enough Already.
That is the SIMPLE message, and anyone who believes the same way is active/inactive T.E.A. Party member.
So, they have to obscure the message because the message is too dangerous to their agenda.

The TEA Party is having a huge impact on politics, that cannot be denied. It should energize the skeptics to get involved in some small way because this COULD be just a start. Work them muscles and they get stronger.

TPTB want all this racial tension. That includes our current administration, our current congress full of people who have served 4+ consecutive terms, NAACP, Black Panthers, and all the other loony bins looking to stir up unrest.

If they really wanted to get rid of racism THEY WOULD STOP WITH ALL THE RACIST BULL# ALREADY. He's a racist shes a racist, they MIGHT be racists, I heard that you said that your uncle's wife's third cousin's nephew's brother in law saw a KKK member at your ex-wife's birthday party!

ENOUGH!

But now, it seems that racism is only a white crime. We can have organisations like la razza and black panthers calling to kill cracker babies. We can have socialist programs like medicaid and the HMO's attached to aforementioned state care carefully display chinese, spanish and african-american children on the cover but no white children because their family MAY have been racist last century and thats unfair... LOL seriously.

But watcxh out; affiliate yourself to a tea party and you're just a racist bigot!

They want reactions. They just want ONE incident to break down into violence and the media coverage and liberal oversight will be all over it like flies to roadkill off Rt 80.

DONT GIVE THEM WHAT THEY WANT!

The "It doesn't matter what this sign says because someone will think its racist" plaque is the best.

[edit on 20-7-2010 by SlasherOfVeils]