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Originally posted by Hudson
You need to learn more history, because this wasn't a white only enterprise. Not surprised you think it was though. Education these days is pretty racist in of itself.
This is not about race. It is about social classes.
As long as I am forced to check a race box on a job application, there will be racism.
Originally posted by antonia
Well, looks like more hyped up Fox news BS.
She interacted with that farmer 24 years ago. She was not employed by the USDA when it happened.
Originally posted by Soloist
I don't care if it was 24 days ago or 24 years ago, it's simply not right to have someone in a position that can affect one's lively-hood based upon their race. Black OR white.
This isn't hype, this is a message. We simply won't tolerate this kind of junk any more, we've had enough, people need to move on or don't and get left out and behind. Hopefully from now on these people will watch what they say and realize the decisions they make have consequences.
Originally posted by butcherguy
I have read more than a few books written by explorers about their travels in Africa. The bulk of the slave traders were Portugese. The people catching the slaves were almost entirely African natives that captured people belonging to other tribes. They sold the captured people to the slave traders for gunpowder, lead, metal, beads and flour.
The natives were in integral part of the slave trade. They were not white.
They often viewed their neighboring tribes as being sub-human, treating them as livestock, and sometimes using them for food.
I have already researched this one, if you need sources, google African slavery and African cannibalism.
Okay, WiseOne, you destroyed me!
Originally posted by Wise Man
Please don't bother to have a history debate with me unless you want be be destroyed, I'm very educated in history.
Despite what the BS whitewashed history books say, the Africans slaving Africans story is a lie. It was one dark race of people putting another dark race of people into slavery. The fact that they live on the same continent doesn't make them the same people.
Originally posted by antonia
Really, people can't grow and learn from their past mistakes?
That is how life works.
Originally posted by antonia
Originally posted by Soloist
I don't care if it was 24 days ago or 24 years ago, it's simply not right to have someone in a position that can affect one's lively-hood based upon their race. Black OR white.
This isn't hype, this is a message. We simply won't tolerate this kind of junk any more, we've had enough, people need to move on or don't and get left out and behind. Hopefully from now on these people will watch what they say and realize the decisions they make have consequences.
It was 24 years ago and she used it as an example of how she had come to realize it was more about Social class than Race. Really, people can't grow and learn from their past mistakes? Maybe we should hold you accountable for every stupid thing you did 20 years ago?
WASHINGTON — A black employee who resigned from the Agriculture Department over racially charged comments at a Georgia NAACP meeting says her remarks are being intentionally misconstrued by conservative groups stoking racial tensions.
Shirley Sherrod says she was forced to step down by the White House even though her comments, in which she says she withheld support for a farmer because he was white, were really part of a story of racial reconciliation. In an interview, Sherrod said the White House's wishes were relayed by an Agriculture Department undersecretary.
But Tuesday morning, Sherrod said what online viewers weren't told in reports posted throughout the day Monday was that the tale she told at the banquet happened 24 years ago -- before she got the USDA job -- when she worked with the Georgia field office for the Federation of Southern Cooperative/Land Assistance Fund. Sherrod said the short video clip excluded the breadth of the story about how she eventually worked with the man over a two-year period to help ward off foreclosure of his farm, and how she eventually became friends with him and his wife. "And I went on to work with many more white farmers," she said. "The story helped me realize that race is not the issue, it's about the people who have and the people who don't. When I speak to groups, I try to speak about getting beyond the issue of race."
Originally posted by Hudson
reply to post by antonia
One more time, maybe it will penetrate your skull. how does any of this change the facts he discriminated against people based on skin color in her position of power?
Originally posted by antonia
So she did help him and you guys are crying over nothing.
www.aolnews.com...
[edit on 20-7-2010 by antonia]
A Georgia woman who said she believes her husband is the farmer referenced in the clip told CNN on Tuesday that Sherrod was helpful to her family and that the couple never felt she was being racist while trying to assist them in avoiding foreclosure. "She treated us really good and got us all we could," said Eloise Spooner of Iron City, Georgia. Spooner said she remembered that Sherrod helped find an attorney to help her husband, Roger. She said she doesn't believe Sherrod is being treated fairly.
Originally posted by justadood
Originally posted by Soloist
Originally posted by ThaLoccster
I'm kinda sick of the race hype.. *SNIP*
Hype? Are you serious?
Here was have a woman on camera claiming she didn't help a white man on purpose. Using terms as "his own" , and "his people", she makes it quite clear that she is/was just as bigoted as those she appears to despise.
Well, that would be bigotry, not racism.
do we REALLY have to rehash the distinct difference between an individual having a problem with another person based on race, class, religion, whatever, and the institution of Racism that empowers a specific race and class through the use of bigotry?
apparently we do.
White people love to think that something like a black person's bigotry is something called 'reverse racism'. But Racism is institutionalized bigotry that empowers the embedded class in power. A black woman having an issue with a white person can not be racism, it can only be bigotry.
Now, when black folks control the vast amount of resources in the world, then you can call their bigotry racism, but until then, its just plain ol bigotry.
learn the difference.
Imagine, just freaking imagine, if this was a WHITE official saying this about a black farmer! There would be riots within hours.
Racism isn't hype, it's real, and it's a many way street these days.
Originally posted by antonia
Mmhmm, she did that 24 years ago and then helped him anyway.
Originally posted by Soloist
Originally posted by antonia
Mmhmm, she did that 24 years ago and then helped him anyway.
No, she said she took him to "one of his own people" THIS year, in the video.
You keep saying the same thing over and over, but it doesn't change the fact that she committed an act of racism and still speaks like one today. There is no reason to take chances that someone with any kind of power will make favorable decisions due to her race. She's done it before and admits it.
The NAACP even agrees.
It's nice to see things changing for once.