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Originally posted by bjsmi2
Its some amazing science !! but do we get a new type microwave oven out of it ?
However, an unsettling rumor is spreading in the realm of physics. The mysterious particle may have already been found!
Rumor has it that the physicists working at the Tevatron (an accelerator smaller than the LHC, located near Chicago) have found something. The Tevatron accelerator has delivered incredible findings in the past, including the discovery of the top quark. The Tevatron is scheduled to shut down in 2009. Unsubstantiated claims have come and gone before. It’s entirely possible that eager scientists are jumping the gun on claims of finding the particle.
Originally posted by Maxmars
Such news, if true, will truly be an embarrassment to those industrial interests that funneled (and continue to funnel) billions upon billions of tax-payer funds into the CERN project. They insisted that no other facility could achieve such a goal.
Oh the ironic counter-intuitive lesson that teaches... throwing massive amounts of revenue at a problem doesn't necessarily guarantee success.
On the other hand, as was quite succinctly stated above, it is a rumor.
Time will tell.
If one form of the rumour is to be believed - and Prof Dorigo is extremely circumspect about it - then it is a "three-sigma" signature, meaning that there is a statistical likelihood of 99.7 per cent that it is correct.
Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
If they have found the particle then it's not an embarrassment to CERN at all. The data will need to be confirmd and CERN is able to produce higher energy collisions that will do just that. CERN may also discover things other than the higgs, to think that CERNS sole reason for existence is to find the Higgs is ignorant at best.
One of the things i'm really exicted about is the idea that the weak nuclear force, the strong nuclear force and electromagnetism are different components of a single force. This idea is known as grand unification theory. Of course the LHC will look into dark matter, other dimensions and a host of other stuff.
So no, it's not a massive embarrassment and the project is not a waste of money.
Originally posted by Big Raging Loner
Wow!!! Crazy news if true it's still somewhat of speculation that the LHC's main rival has made the Earth shattering Discovery
Tommaso Dorigo, a physicist at the University of Padua, has said in his blog that there has been talk coming out of the Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory in Batavia, Illinois, that the Higgs has been discovered.
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Originally posted by mryanbrown
Did you see the latest episode of Morgan Freeman's Discovery show? The surfer who believes he solved unification theory with a simple formula. It looked utterly brilliant.
It's people like that which change our world. Not multi billion dollar equipment ran by intellectual elitists. But people who can easily comprehend the abstract.
(Dr. Garrett Lisi)
A joke within a joke. Physics, stuck in it's newtonian world, struggling to reconcile that with quantum mechanics, a pseudo science whose greatest "discoveries" could have been written on a singly papyrus by anyone with a mere whiff of the motherlode of ancient, axiomatic wisdom that is all around us, if we choose to look.
But we are thick as bricks..... lost to our real nature and so waste billions upon billions of "mind" instigated dollars/euros/yuan/rupees into building machines that'll help us see more than our eyes can see, be more than our physical limitations allow us to be.
Such a faustian bargain we have with this beast that is modern day science.
An out of control, hydra headed testament to modern man's ego.
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds......