Illegal Immigration Costs U.S. $113 Billion a Year, Study Finds

Originally posted by Wayne60
I want my money back.
In unmarked dollar bills please.

Politican reply to: Wayne60, OK, be at my place tonight 2315 sharp, don't be late, I only have some much tax payers monies in my wallet. tell Jesus at the door you knew me

Originally posted by intrepid
From the source:

Groups that support immigration reform immediately attacked FAIR's report and pointed out that it is the polar opposite of the Perryman Report, a 2008 study that found illegal immigration was actually a boon to the American economy. It estimated that illegal immigrants add $245 billion in Gross Domestic Product to the economy and account for 2.8 million jobs.

Makes sense to me. You've gotta live. That means food, rent, utilities, etc.

sorry intrepid but I'm gonna have to chime in here
with a comment.

Are you talking about that same $245B of GDP that would
have been produced by Americans if they had the opportunity
to do so. Last time I checked, cucumbers, potatoes, fruit
and veggies being picked in the field are the GDP of the American
Farmer NOT the illegals loading it on the trucks. That stat is skewed
in favor of an agenda and you know it.

Illegal immigrants do NOT make a product here other than
illegal drugs so how can they contribute to the GDP???

reply to post by boondock-saint


I would say that both that stat and the op stat are skewed cause that's the way politics roll.

You can't stop questioning both sides.

reply to post by intrepid

let's also take some stats from that info you gave.

Estimated 13M Illegals here
Estimated 2.8M working jobs

what the [snip] is the other 10.2 MILLION doing ???
LIVING OFF THE SYSTEM !!!! or
committing crimes against the system.

13M illegals
2.8M working

that means illegal unemployment rates
are 79%

there is NO possible way that 21% of ANY working class
can carry the load for 79% non-working class, no matter
what country you are from. And it is eroding the US system
to the point of bankruptcy.

there's you some stats to chew on


[edit on 6-7-2010 by boondock-saint]

reply to post by guohua


Thanks for posting this. Watch the hospitals and every state entity
giving handouts go bankrupt. I wonder if I would be entitled to ALL the
benefits they leech here if I went to their country? More like jail time,
and extortion until the cash is squeezed. Then they deport you home.
This issue has gotten totally out of control. Our leaders passed the buck on
it, just as they have done with pretty much everything else, and now the
wolf is at the door. Disgraceful,irresponsible, and completely unacceptable.
Once the gates are pulled down from their communities, only then will they realize. By then, it will be too late. The fall of Rome 2, welcome to the bankruptcy of The United States of America courtesy of The Congress, The Bankers, and Corporate interests. Teddy Roosevelt is rolling in his grave right now.

America is obsessed with money and it is sickening. I would love for anyone that needs help to get help.

Why is the American Dream to enslave the population? EX: Bill Gates enslaved the technocrats with licensing and makes $40+ billion at one time. Another example is the Wal-Mart clan, buffet, etc; Why does one man need trillions more currency than the next man?

Everyone is fighting over illegals when there is nothing legal about what is happening to this country.

Money is the root and the tree that grows from it is keeping us from seeing the light.


I'll take an illegal over a high-level exec or politician any day.

peace

reply to post by zroth


Cool, so we can expect you to fully fund and support each and every illegal you take?

How many do you want to get started with?

100 or so? Surely you wont mind sleeping 40 or 50 to a room in your house since you seem so enamored with illegals right?

Originally posted by zroth
I'll take an illegal over a high-level exec or politician any day.

that's the problem
you need to get rid of BOTH !!!!

reply to post by boondock-saint


Man, that's some scewed math. 2.8 million jobs. Let's round that up to 3 million. What are the others doing? Probably the same as us. Going to school, raising kids. Let's work on the 4 family member paradigm and that's probably conservative. 4 X 3 million is 12 million. Doesn't seem so bad does it?



[edit on 6-7-2010 by intrepid]

Originally posted by boondock-saint
Are you talking about that same $245B of GDP that would
have been produced by Americans if they had the opportunity
to do so.

Yes. Opportunity? Plenty of opportunity if Americans want to do those jobs.

Last time I checked, cucumbers, potatoes, fruit
and veggies being picked in the field are the GDP of the American
Farmer NOT the illegals loading it on the trucks.

Apparently you don't know how the GDP works. They earn the money. They spend the money. Like I said above. On food, rent, etc. THAT is what instills the economy with money.

That stat is skewed
in favor of an agenda and you know it.

And the stats in this report aren't? I'll make up my own mind on what is right.

Illegal immigrants do NOT make a product here other than
illegal drugs so how can they contribute to the GDP???

See above for the answer. I would also like to see your stats on II just making drugs.

Originally posted by brainwrek
reply to post by zroth

 

Cool, so we can expect you to fully fund and support each and every illegal you take?

How many do you want to get started with?

100 or so? Surely you wont mind sleeping 40 or 50 to a room in your house since you seem so enamored with illegals right?

Hello, kitty!

Everybody wants to play give-away...but they don't want to give away their own stuff...They want to give away my stuff,..they want to give away everybody else's stuff...but they don't want to give away their own stuff to serve those high moral principles that they feel so very strongly.

That's called "compassion", and being a "good person".










[edit on 6-7-2010 by nine-eyed-eel]

Originally posted by brainwrek
reply to post by zroth

 

Cool, so we can expect you to fully fund and support each and every illegal you take?

How many do you want to get started with?

100 or so? Surely you wont mind sleeping 40 or 50 to a room in your house since you seem so enamored with illegals right?

Wow this guy is really on my stick today. There is more than enough so enjoy.

Money is useless.

Yes, I am prepared to help those that need help even after the clamps come all the way down. I'd even help you if your pride didn't get in the way.

reply to post by zroth


There's somebody starving to death right now, right this second, you could sell your computer and your shoes and keep them alive...

Planning on doing that?

Here is an idea! Let's get rid of unemployment benefits that hundreds of people desperately need in this hard time, and then spend all the money on illegal immigrants!

Seems to me that a good part of America was destroyed while everyone was sleeping.

[edit on 6-7-2010 by eennoo]

Originally posted by intrepid
Man, that's some scewed math. 2.8 million jobs. Let's round that up to 3 million.

let's not as that is in favor of the illegal and skewing
the stats again. And I seem to think you completely ignored
the fact that they do NOT make a product here unless
you want to start adding the illegal drug trade to the US
GDP stats.

Originally posted by intrepid
What are the others doing? Probably the same as us. Going to school, raising kids.

illegals can't go to school
they can't raise kids
it is illegal for them to be here

Originally posted by intrepid
Let's work on the 4 family member paradigm and that's probably conservative. 4 X 3 million is 12 million. Doesn't seem so bad does it?

seems as though you are missing another point.
In America these days it takes both MOM AND DAD
working to pay the bills. According to your scenario
only 1 works, there fore relying on public assistance
to make up the difference. Which is also illegal.
And yes it is bad when American Citizens put both
parents to work and an illegal family only 1 works.
Yes, it IS bad !!!

Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
Another GOP fail. The 'illegals' getting educated are mostly US citizens.. or are we supposed to believe these k-12 kids hopped the fence somewhere?

Absolutely, the children of illegals have also "hopped the fence".

Remember anchor babies..?

Read the article and you'll see they admit they're actually citizens.

Hopefully, we can get that changed soon.

Originally posted by nine-eyed-eel
reply to post by zroth

 

There's somebody starving to death right now, right this second, you could sell your computer and your shoes and keep them alive...

Planning on doing that?

You are making an assumption that I can't just finance it now. What is your point?

I translate your post as "it is too hard so I don't try".

This country was hijacked by the people its citizens trusted and you are goin on about "what ifs". Here's one....what if everyone was their brothers keeper and rebukked the corporate overseers that run control for the plantaion owning global bankers?

Why is America only good for those within her borders? Why not for everyone?

Is there a membership fee for this club that the NWO put in place?

reply to post by zroth


No I don't believe in compassion. I'm mean.

I'm not the one who avoids doing things because they are difficult.

I didn't sign up to be Jesus, so I don't dress up like him either.






[edit on 6-7-2010 by nine-eyed-eel]

reply to post by intrepid


undoubtedly you do not understand what the GDP is.

The gross domestic product (GDP) or gross domestic
income (GDI) is a measure of a country's overall economic
output. It is the market value of all final goods and services
made within the borders

en.wikipedia.org...

it is either GOODS PRODUCED or
LEGAL MONEY MADE

has absolutely NOTHING to do with
how much they spend on utilities or at Wal-Mart.

They produce NOTHING
and they work illegally under the table
with no SS or Fed or State with-holding
therefore there is no LEGAL money made.

therefore
they DO NOT contribute an iota to the GDP
of America.

reply to post by nine-eyed-eel


Nice edit. Good use of Jesus. You win!

If people want illegal immigrants out they should start with Obama. He alone has cost the US more than the OP complaint.