You know, I hear this shouting for "waking up" on quite a few threads on ATS. I still don't know what it means.

If you're a member on ATS you're probably already more "awake" than most of the population out there. Quite a few members have already admitted they are "preparing" with stockpiles of food, ammo, etc.

Personally, I don't think that's going to cut it. When troops burst through your door and yank your butt out of bed, I don't think they're going to let you bring all your canned vegetables and reloaded .38's.

If anyone is truly "awake" they will either get the heck outa Dodge NOW or be very proactive in FIGHTING. (by fighting I don't necesarily mean riots in the streets). Writing letters to our Congressmen has proven useless for the most part.

What are the options, people? We all love our little comforts and pseudo-security but I think this battle is going to require some heavy sacrifices from the least to the greatest.

For the most part I think we ARE awake; we just woke up in a state of shock and are still trying to figure out what to do.

good stuff, and good research!- i like how ATS members are at the leading edge of information, only here you can get the 411 on things that mainstream media is ignoring! i love it!

My first impression is that these camps are POW camps. They have the same configuration of that kind of camp. The location is also interesting, next to a water treatment plant, fresh water would be a major concern for a large camp of prisoners in Southern California. Locating the camp next to a water plant removes one big problem.

The only problem with the POW scenario is that the US Gov./Military has shown no interest in running or using POW camps during major military conflicts. My case in point is that we are engaged in a dual front war right now and we don't have any POW camps.

We also "forgot" to create any POW camps during the first Gulf War and had to cease hostilities early in order to stop the flood of POW's surrendering to soldiers, camera crews, unmanned drones, sand beatles, etc. Otherwise we would have had a real humanitarian crisis on our hands.

The US also failed to create any POW camps during the Vietnam War. We detained our POWs in South Vietnam rather than transport them to the US.

I think that you can get the picture, the US does not like to run POW camps and seeks to find other methods to deal with the prisoners from its military conflicts. So, why would the US buiid huge POW style camps in the US?

I honestly don't know. We could also ask why the National Guard was put on alert prior to the election.

One of the places to look for answers though is the current economic situation. The Federal Reserve has "loaned" over 2 trillion dollars over the past 6 months to an entity that it will not name. Meanwhile the US Gov. is suddenly awash in funds to the tune of 2 trillion dollars. Put 2 and 2 trillion together and you get the connection.

The problem is that every economics class that I have ever had says that printing money to get out of a financial bind is the wrong thing to do. Fiat money only accelerates the economic deline and extends the time required to recover.

In Germany, before WWII, the economic situation got so bad that workers were paid 3 times a day, and their salary was worthless by the end of the day. There were riots in the streets and many people were injured, killed in the chaos, or arrested. Germany was headed for a total meltdown, then suddenly, a savior emerged. You know the rest.

It is possible that the US Gov. is taking precautions against an economic meltdown. These camps could be used to house the millions of US citizens who may take to the streets to riot in the aftermath of an economic meltdown. But wait a minute, a savior has emerged...

Back in the early 70's,me and my friends used to go to Palmdale area for target shooting,those facilitys in Palmdale ansd Pearblossom are the same as about 40 yrs ago,they are what they are,remember after WW2 you could put a shack on land and get squatter rights,nothing to ssee there and as far as Brand Park friend lives nearby says kids practice soccer there,sounds like someone making something out of nothing,I might go by there on way to the snow and take a few pictures