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U.S. Concentration Camps

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posted on Dec, 31 2008 @ 10:52 PM
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1. Patriot Act updated: It now states that if a flu pandemic or possible pandemic comes to the US, local and federal governments have the right to force vaccinate the population.
2. Anyone who declines can be detained in these federal camps and the government has the right to confiscate all properties of those who refuse and sell them to offset the cost of incarceration.
3. The Spanish flu has been harvested from an officer's body who died of the flu and was found around 1994 buried in the Alaskan Permafrost, this virus was sent to the US biological weapons research facility. The supercomputers ran for 6 years to discover the Gene- sequence, now it has been militarized.
4. Those behind the new world order want to depopulate the world to a sustainable level, the Spanish flu in a modifiable and militarized form would certainly accomplish that, and I am sure there is a vaccine available to those in the IN-Crowd

5. In my opinion, the new world order and one world economy and government, spoke of in the Bible... can not come to pass with the American Middle Class in place and holding their own weapons. Martial Law brought about by the above statements may well be on the near Horizon.




posted on Dec, 31 2008 @ 11:07 PM
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I agree with all you posted except I think it will be the left hand instead of the right. This will make it easier to swipe your data when you pick up your food at the Mcdonalds drive thru. PEACEhg



posted on Jan, 1 2009 @ 12:40 AM
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Hi Timothy,

I believe the information below answers some of the questions you called about earlier today. Please let me know if you need any more information:

Who has authority over the militia?

Although the term "reserves" is often used as a generic term to refer to all members of the seven individual reserve components, there is an important distinction between the five reserve components which are purely federal entities (the Army Reserve, Navy Reserve, Marine Corps Reserve, Air Force Reserve, and Coast Guard Reserve) and the two reserve components which are both federal and state entities (the Army National Guard and the Air National Guard). In this context, the purely federal reserve components are sometimes referred to collectively as the Reserves, while the dual federal/state reserve components are referred to collectively as the National Guard.

The Reserves are of comparatively recent origin, having all been established in the 20th century. They were organized under Congress' constitutional authority "to raise and support Armies" and "to provide and maintain a Navy." The National Guard has a much longer historical pedigree. It is descended from the colonial era militia(21) which existed prior to the adoption of the Constitution. The Constitution does, however, contain provisions that recognize the existence of the militia and that give the federal government a certain amount of control over it. See U.S. Constitution, Article I, Section 8, clauses 15 and 16, and Article II, Section 2, clause 1 below.

Unlike the Reserves, which are exclusively federal organizations, the National Guard is usually both a state and a federal organization. The National Guard of the United States is made up of 54 separate National Guard organizations: one for each state, and one for Puerto Rico, Guam, the U.S. Virgin Islands, and the District of Columbia. While the District of Columbia National Guard is an exclusively federal organization and operates under federal control at all times, the other 53 National Guards operate as state or territorial organizations most of the time. In this capacity, each of these 53 organizations is identified by its state or territorial name (e.g. the California National Guard or the Puerto Rico National Guard), and is controlled by its respective governor.

Section. 8.

The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.

Section. 2.

The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States; he may require the Opinion, in writing, of the principal Officer in each of the executive Departments, upon any Subject relating to the Duties of their respective Offices, and he shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offences against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.

Northern Command (NORTHCOM) and Canada

In 2002, President Bush signed a new Unified Command Plan establishing United States Northern Command (NORTHCOM) to provide command and control of the Department of Defense's homeland defense efforts and to coordinate military support to civil authorities. As a geographical combatant command, NORTHCOM has an area of responsibility that includes the continental United States, Alaska, Canada, Mexico, and surrounding waters out to approximately 500 nautical miles, including the Gulf of Mexico and the Straits of Florida.

In December 2002, Canada and the United States established a Bi-national Planning Group at North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD)/NORTHCOM headquarters to review theater cooperation in the post 9/11 security environment. The 50-person military team dissolved in May 2006 after submitting a final report with 62 recommendations. Some recommendations, like authority for WMD teams to cross the border, will require legislative action to be effective. However, most, like protocols for information sharing between NORAD, NORTHCOM, and Canada Command, could be orchestrated under existing laws or within NORAD agreement.

In February 2008, military leaders from NORTHCOM and Canada Command agreed to a Civil Assistance Plan. The Civil Assistance Plan "allows the military from one nation to support the armed forces of the other nation during a civil emergency" and is expected to "facilitate military-to-military support of civil authorities once government authorities have agreed on an appropriate response." NORTHCOM and Canada Command leaders view the agreement as an opportunity to collaboratively synchronize each nation's military operational plans to support each countries lead federal agencies -- the U.S. Department of Homeland Security and Public Safety Canada -- following events such as "floods, forest fires, hurricanes, earthquakes and effects of a terrorist attack."

In addition to coordinating operational plans, the commanders of NORTHCOM and Canada Command and their staffs meet regularly, collaborate on contingency planning, and participate in related annual exercises. Further, Canada has linked some of its exercises with the U.S. National Level Exercise (NLE) schedule. For example, during NLE 2-08, Canadian forces, led by Canada Command, participated in exercise Staunch Maple where they were faced with a mass casualty scenario associated with a simulated explosion and a pandemic flu outbreak aboard a Canadian ship in a Canadian port.

Rex 84 Camps

After some research, I think this is based on the U.S. Government's Continuity of Government plan. I don't know if what you have heard about the camps was tied in to this directive:

On May 9, 2007, President George W. Bush issued National Security Presidential Directive (NSPD) 51, which is also identified as Homeland Security Presidential Directive (HSPD) 20, on National Continuity Policy. The directive updates longstanding continuity directives designed to assure that governing entities are able to recover from a wide range of potential operational interruptions. Executive branch efforts to assure essential operations are similar to those that are broadly integrated into many private sector industries. Government continuity planning also incorporates efforts to maintain and preserve constitutional government, based on the assumption that certain essential activities typically provided by government must be carried out with little or no interruption under all circumstances.

I hope this helps,

Kirtley


Kirtley Fisher, Legislative Assistant
Representative Jim Langevin (RI-02)
109 Cannon Building
Washington, DC 20515
(202) 225.2735/ (202) 225.5976 (fax)
www.house.gov/langevin
Click here to sign up for Congressman Langevin's e-newsletter



posted on Jan, 3 2009 @ 12:27 PM
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Contrary to popular belief you don't need a HUGE infrastructure to house 2 million or even 5000 people. Especially if your agenda is to wipe out 90% of the population as per the Georgia guide stones. All you need is a few ovens a way to transprt the people to it and a way to get rid of the ashs!



posted on Jan, 6 2009 @ 11:40 PM
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posted on Jan, 8 2009 @ 11:04 AM
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Look at 9/11. How hard did they try to trick the citizens then? The way those buildings collapsed is the most blatantly obvious view that it was an inside job. This wasn't drawn up by primitive men in caves. The U.S. needed and excuse to go into Iraq to control the oil and heroine.

Now the election comes and everyone wants Bush out so badly, after they were in love with him when he wanted to go after Bin Laden like in the old west, as he said, so here comes the saviour. A black president, oh how the times are changing in the U.S.A.!! The minorities will now believe whatever the government tells them and the whites that aren;t racist are happy for change and the whites that are racists don't matter. The U.S. is setting this up like the best chess move ever made.

WAKE THE # UP!!!



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 12:03 PM
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A friend of mine told me about this and told me to look into it. Honestly though, the people that are saying that its a government conspiracy to contain civilans in concentration camps, answer me this. why, in a time of war, would the government even think about attacking its own U.S. citizens? That doesnt make sence. That would cripple us because Im sure that if this "conspiracy" ever happened, America would go into a state of caos. People would riot, buisnesses would be shut down all over the nation because the majority of people that worked for or owned it would be in this "camps" Large scale rebellions would erupt in america and while this is all happening, almost every country in the world would see are weak at that moment and sieze the oppurtunity to attack and quite possibly win. I say "almost every country in the world" because many of our allies would see that democracy has faded, freedom has faded and they will decide to fight aganst us in hopes that they will keep democracy alive. See? I dont think our government is that dence to concider doing this. I think this whole Rex 84 or whatever operation has been blown out of proportion by a group of paranoide people and they have passed their paranoide views to the rest of america. I think its a load of crap. Thats all I got to say.



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 01:57 PM
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We did the same thing to Japan in ww2



posted on Jan, 10 2009 @ 08:02 PM
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These facilities do not exist.



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 02:09 AM
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that dont make any sense, one military. what would be the point of having a military who would we fight



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 02:46 AM
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Originally posted by ShiningLight
These facilities do not exist.



This is a succinct summation of all the evidence presented.

But I am hoping this thread remains open, so I can find out more about the places where they keep all those aliens.


MF



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 03:42 AM
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i live in pgh. and must agree quinns a complete nipplehead but i'm surprised to see that he referred to these camps that long ago. again quinn is about a dick he only lives like 10 miutes from me.



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 04:04 AM
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An empty prison is not a prison. You have spouted a lot of conjecture and supposition yet you are too cowardly to ask what they are. Fences are built to keep people out as well as to keep people in. Reserrvoirs and water supplies have always been a target during times of war and they are equally tempting targets for terrorists and even people that just have a grudge against local governments. I seriously object to people like you who bandy about phrases like U.S. concentration camps as if they are a reality rather than just a figment of your overactive imagination. You seem to suffer from the misconception that politicians rule this country, they don't. We the People are still alive and well and support the idea of freedom and liberty and justice for all. There are millions of Americans just like me who have fought in foriegn wars in support of those principles and we are not about to roll over for a bunch of politicians and lawyers. It is much simpler do away with traitors than free men and women who have defended our Constitution. Think about that.



posted on Jan, 12 2009 @ 09:33 PM
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I don't see any substantiation of the claim that the US has internment or prison camps ready and waiting to incarcerate thousands of offenders.

They've had enough problems with a certain speciazed one in Cuba.

I do wonder if some of the locations mentioned had anything to do with
the 1950 McCarran Act . At the beginning of the Cold War and that era's particular paranoia, there was legislation intended to get Communists in the US to register themselves, it imposed restrictions on their activities, liberties, etc.

Reportedly there were detention camps set up in Allenwood, Pennsylvania, El Reno, Oklahoma, Florence and Wickenburg, Arizona, Tule Lake, California.

Probably information online, the only source I know if is a book titled
"Concentration Camps U.S.A." by Charles R. Allen, Jr.
1966. Marzani and Munzell, Inc., New York


Mike F



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 09:56 PM
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Ive got to go with the true side.Theres just to much pointing to a coming police state. For a hillarious take on this go to fnknewz.com



posted on Jan, 16 2009 @ 10:01 PM
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Well, I noticed the dates of most replies were made quite some time ago, 2002 thru 2005. So then I have to consider the time frame factor. After all, if these are future prison camps, then to what certainty is there they actually exist for that purpose. During WW II there were many such prison camp for POW's and some of these places were simply military training camp, but not all of them later returned to the actual land owners. Out here in Arizona there are miles and miles of land the federal government has acquired to store mostly antiquated tanks, air-crafts, and millions of other such military equipment that is now worthless. It is now simply junk and cannot be recommissioned for service. Many of these places no longer have security of any natures, and these place crawl with poisonous snakes. I personally would like to see more up-to-date information regarding such places you make mention about, and if they actually do exist, the public has the right to know, and there are lots of politicians that would love making known these places, and also our present day liberal news media.



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 02:02 AM
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posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 10:52 AM
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Does anyone know of any of these " camps " in Florida?



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 10:57 AM
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Why is this thread recycles back to first spot on the first page when no new comment has been added?



posted on Jan, 17 2009 @ 11:13 AM
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I have a question...

Or perhaps a scenario, which might also explain why this was moved to the front.

Imagine that 200.000 people all decide that a protest march is in order in Calif. against the current state of chaos with their social finances.
As usual, the Police would be there in droves, suited up with pepper spray, rubber bullets, helmets, batons... Because, let's face it, American Policing is all about control, no longer about serving the community.

A shot is fired at an elderly woman, a disabled man, a child.
The crowd goes nuts, Police move in using the new and improved 'surround and detain all protesters' methods they've used recently at other protests.

They start to arrest a thousand at a time. Collecting their names and details.

Another protest starts in another area, and then another.

Now, what do they do with all these many thousands of people protesting, with nothing else to loose?

Where do they put them?

I'm not saying I agree that this is what such camps are for, personally I believe they are multipurpose.
Common sense tells me that if they had massive civil unrest, massive arrests, they would need locations to detain and register thousands of people.
Likewise, if there were a terrorist attack, natural catastrophe, disease outbreak, they would need locations (on train lines) to process and evacuate citizens of that area.

There is more evidence to tell me that these sites are for the detention of citizens and centers for transport of civilians away from danger, than there is to tell me they are anything else.



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