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Schwarzenegger Drops State Workers to Minimum Wage

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posted on Jul, 2 2010 @ 10:45 AM
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Schwarzenegger Drops State Workers to Minimum Wage


www.newser.com

The State Controller, Democrat John Chiang, says he won’t obey that order, the LA Times reports, but the Department of Personnel Administration says he doesn’t have a choice. The last time Chiang refused to cut worker benefits, in 2008, Schwarzenegger took him to court and won.
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posted on Jul, 2 2010 @ 10:45 AM
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So Arnold says now all state employees are working for min wage. Good, about time they see what it feels like!

But wait, John Chiang isn't buying into this "joke".

Ahhhh, the free entertainment from California just keeps on coming.
Is it fair to demand all state employees to receive min wage or should they always be held to a higher standard than the rest of us?


www.newser.com
(visit the link for the full news article)



posted on Jul, 2 2010 @ 10:48 AM
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What I found interesting was that it was Federal Min wage (7.25) not State($8). I wonder if we will end up the first state to lower the minimum wage.



posted on Jul, 2 2010 @ 10:48 AM
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If they werent so overpaid and over-funded with their early state pensions and insurance and other perks in the first place they wouldnt have to suffer so hard now.

A thrifty man may eventually become rich. An overspending irresponsible man never will. Unless it's by blowing everything he has to kingdom come and bilking the taxpayers for benefits because of his "misfortune."



posted on Jul, 2 2010 @ 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
If they werent so overpaid and over-funded with their early state pensions and insurance and other perks in the first place they wouldnt have to suffer so hard now.

A thrifty man may eventually become rich. An overspending irresponsible man never will. Unless it's by blowing everything he has to kingdom come and bilking the taxpayers for benefits because of his "misfortune."


Hey, brother, let me give you some insight as a CA state employee:

Wait, I don't need to! You are completely correct.

CA is overstaffed, overpaid, and under utilized. So many people in this state speak of the corruption up top (rightly so) while forgetting of the corruption below. Yup, sheer laziness and a sense of entitelment.

FWIW, I'm actually state affiliated and the company I work for is not funded by the general draw. We are actually 100% financially independant but due to a terrible agreement the company signed at its founding 100 or so years ago we're still classified as state empleyees and governed by CA.

I still pay into calpers, but when I leave this company I'll be pulling out my retirement and reinvesting because I know the system isn't sustainable.





[edit on 2-7-2010 by Protostellar]



posted on Jul, 2 2010 @ 02:05 PM
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I thought this was very interesting and started to wonder just how many positions are held, who will be affected, and what types of jobs, so I googled it. listed below is page one of over 4000 pages of California state workers and how much they get paid, only posting first page if you want to see more visit the link.







Name Workplace Salary Overtime Total Pay
Mark Anson
Chief Investment Officer CalPERS $373,891.28 N/A $608,489.28
Christianna Wood
Senior Investment Officer CalPERS $258,931.61 N/A $412,745.61
Patricia A. Pinkos
Senior Investment Officer CalPERS $247,003.90 N/A $406,316.90
Michael B. Mc Cook
Senior Investment Officer CalPERS $245,889.67 N/A $402,798.67
Curtis D. Ishii
Senior Investment Officer CalPERS $251,098.48 N/A $401,240.48
Leon G. Shahinian
Senior Investment Officer CalPERS $199,902.07 N/A $319,527.07
Tim L. Alder
Staff Psychiatrist (Safety) Patton State Hospital $155,654.30 N/A $315,201.92
Christopher J. Ailman
Chief Investment Officer State Teachers Retirement System $243,750.00 N/A $312,937.50
Richard J. Hayes
Senior Investment Officer CalPERS $137,751.81 N/A $302,595.81
Tam D. Bui
Physician and Surgeon San Quentin State Prison $132,854.30 $161,642.18 $294,496.48
Dianne C. Oki
President State Comp Insurance Fund $271,916.67 N/A $271,916.67
Gertrudis C. Agcaoili
Staff Psychiatrist (Safety) Napa State Hospital $188,365.54 $15,558.48 $259,126.42
Mary C. Cottrill
Senior Portfolio Manager CalPERS $170,696.71 N/A $255,175.71
Bong Doan
Staff Psychiatrist (Safety) Patton State Hospital $155,654.30 N/A $253,178.03
Ronald L. Seeling
Chief Actuary CalPERS $195,859.60 N/A $249,916.60
John B. Ehnes
Chief Executive Officer State Teachers Retirement System $195,831.00 N/A $243,046.00
Kevin A. Winter
Senior Portfolio Manager CalPERS $173,160.03 N/A $240,935.03
Shelly James
Staff Psychiatrist CA State Prison - Solano $176,648.20 N/A $235,722.00
Joseph Ezra
Staff Psychiatrist (Safety) Patton State Hospital $155,654.30 N/A $232,394.39
Michael H. Lisiak
Staff Psychiatrist (Safety) Atascadero State Hospital $155,654.30 N/A $226,060.25
Mohamed Amr I. Hafez
Physician and Surgeon (Safety) Patton State Hospital $132,854.30 N/A $223,990.38
John W. Douglas
Staff Psychiatrist Pelican Bay State Prison $168,179.02 $52,486.33 $220,679.66
Fred R. Buenrostro Jr
Executive Officer CalPERS $173,352.12 N/A $220,512.12
Alfonso Fernandez
Senior Portfolio Manager CalPERS $148,898.25 N/A $218,683.25
Carl A. Guidi
Portfolio Manager CalPERS $128,676.25 N/A $218,403.25
Real R. Desrochers
Investment Director State Teachers Retirement System $179,209.00 N/A $217,136.88
Anh C. Nguyen
Physician and Surgeon Frank D Lanterman Hospital $130,454.30 N/A $214,994.67
Paul D. Fortaleza
Physician and Surgeon Csp - Los Angeles County $132,854.30 $82,092.05 $214,946.35
Timothy B. Martin
Physician and Surgeon San Quentin State Prison $132,854.30 $80,702.69 $213,556.99
Nitin B. Kulkarni
Staff Psychiatrist (Safety) Patton State Hospital $155,654.30 N/A $213,527.18
Ba N. Tran
Physician and Surgeon Frank D Lanterman Hospital $130,454.30 N/A $212,994.85
Warren T. Trepeta
Portfolio Manager CalPERS $126,967.50 N/A $212,827.50
Sang V. Chung
Physician and Surgeon (Safety) Patton State Hospital $132,854.30 N/A $211,613.47
Wadsworth H. Murad
Staff Psychiatrist (Safety) Patton State Hospital $155,654.30 N/A $211,496.75
Paul H. Kratofil
Staff Psychiatrist (Safety) Patton State Hospital $155,654.30 N/A $209,083.22
Lawrence V. Harrison
Staff Psychiatrist CA Medical Facility $156,854.30 N/A $207,735.90
Aubrey Dent
Staff Psychiatrist (Safety) Vacaville Psychiatric Facility $153,179.02 N/A $206,989.19
Donald R. Walk

Link : www.sfgate.com...

[edit on 2-7-2010 by ShadowRamesses]



posted on Jul, 2 2010 @ 02:10 PM
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It would be hypocritical for Arnold to lower state employee saleries and not his own. So is he going to take the pay cut too?



posted on Jul, 2 2010 @ 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by darkelf
It would be hypocritical for Arnold to lower state employee saleries and not his own. So is he going to take the pay cut too?


Wouldnt matter if he did. To him at least. He's made more from a weekend of voice over work than hes had in his time a governor.

But to a state as bankrupt as CA every penny counts.

Wonder why all the celebs and producers havent had some big event among their peers to raise billions to save CA?

Where's George Clooney when you need him?



posted on Jul, 2 2010 @ 02:16 PM
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This situation in California is a direct result of the Illegal Immigration problems they have across the board. Needless to say they can't support all the benefits for non-citizens and now the rest of the folks are paying the price.

Now Arnold has created more of those "Jobs Americans won't do"...and guess who is waiting in the wings for those minimum wage positions.



posted on Jul, 2 2010 @ 02:16 PM
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Arnie there doesn't take a salary from CA, at least if that hasn't changed since I moved the heck out of that heck-hole.

He tried this once before and was blocked by the state treasurer.



posted on Jul, 2 2010 @ 02:18 PM
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The governator isn't taking salary from CA. He's waived it since elected.

But I assure none of the other law-making peeps will be getting a paycut until November, and even then it's only 18%.



posted on Jul, 2 2010 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by darkelf
It would be hypocritical for Arnold to lower state employee saleries and not his own. So is he going to take the pay cut too?



Yeah, looks like he has plenty of money, guess being Governor is just kind of a hobby.

Link : www.celebritynetworth.com...


Arnold Schwarzenegger Net Worth
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$200 MILLION
Arnold Alois Schwarzenegger is an Austrian American bodybuilder, model, actor, businessman, and politcian with a net worth estimated at $200 million. He was born on July 30, 1947 in the tiny village of Thal, Austria. His father Gustav was the local chief of police. Schwarzennegger’s father was a very strict man who did not pay much attention to him as a child. His father favored Arnold’s older brother Meinhard. Two things helped Schwarzenegger make it through his childhood his close relationship to his mother and sports. In 1960, Schwarzenegger’s football coach took him to the local gym where he picked up his first barbell. At the age of fourteen is when Swarzenegger first devised the plan to become a professional bodybuilder. His father had wanted for Schwarzenegger to police officer and his mother wanted for him to attend a trade school but the Arnold knew where his destiny lied. He began working out at the local gym. When he wasn’t in the gym he could be found in the local movie houses watching his bodybuilding heroes on the big screen. One of the huge influences on him was Steve Reeves. Steve Reeves was a professional bodybuilder who was award the name of Mr. Univerese in 1950. He had later went on to have a sucessful film career. In Reeves, Schwarzenegger saw what he could be.

[edit on 2-7-2010 by ShadowRamesses]



posted on Jul, 2 2010 @ 02:20 PM
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Do elected officials count as state employees? Is the governor taking a pay cut as well?
I'm in WV, and for the majority of the people in this state minimum wage is the best there is unless you go undergroung into the coal mines. But coal mines are only in a few area, so those jobs are rarely available. Plus they're not really worth the risk for a few extra dollars on the hour in my opinion.
It is possible to live comfortably on minimum wage, you just have to lower your standards a bit.



posted on Jul, 2 2010 @ 02:26 PM
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Remember when Conan was cool? Now he is just a bully for TPTB.



posted on Jul, 2 2010 @ 02:28 PM
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AliW -

Yes and no. They are an exception but they do work for the tax payers of the state.

They will not be facing the paycut w/ exception of an 18% cut in November when the new term begins. Hardly seems fair.

And, acirding to an article in the sacbee this morning, the minimum wage applies to hourly state ee's but may include salaried ee's as well.

[edit on 2-7-2010 by Protostellar]



posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 12:39 AM
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What I foresee happening is the hardworking bottom of the totem pole state employees will have their pay drastically cut. Those who make over 200,000 a year will probably keep their pay. You saw how much some people make...the local news used to show government waste, people on panels and boards for the simplest decisions make 150,000 a year...the city manager of my old city of 50,000 people makes 300,000 a year!
Plus you saw all that overtime!!!!!!!!!!! At my company we get yelled at for getting several minutes of overtime...imagine getting 200K in overtime pay, insane!



posted on Jul, 3 2010 @ 03:12 AM
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Well, He is also a State worker. Is he going to work for minimum wage?



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