Originally posted by VneZonyDostupa
Originally posted by Xtrozero
But isn't it all available in other countries well beyond the greedy companies’ reach to stop it all? I see clinics in many other countries and
I’m not seeing any success rates.
I'm still waiting for an answer to this question, personally. I think it's a wonderful point that RogerT and others keep dancing around.
You've been answered in this thread by me and many others, and in countless other threads on alternative cures that I've seen you post in.
The information you are looking for, clinical studies, published in prestigious journals, peer reviewed and AMA, FDA approved will NEVER be available
without a radical change in the ethics of commercial allopathy.
Many people have tried to explain that to you. If you still refuse to accept it, what more can the informed man do in a conversation with you.
There is an abundance of evidence available for success of this and countless other alternative medicines, but none of it will subdue your need for
'official' acknowledgement (unless there is a big buck in it for pharma et al).
You should know yourself that FDA approval of any medicinal substance or device costs from 200,000 to over a million dollars. Regardless of all the
other obstacles put in the way of people like Beck, that's enough to keep something like this out of your precious elitist club.
Vendors have repeatedly told you here in this thread, that they were harassed and sued to either stop selling or remove literature from websites. Beck
realised this and was smart enough to avoid having a website, still the FDA came to his home at 3am with guns drawn (his claim).
I've looked into finding study info and proven testimonials, and whilst they are out there, most sites have removed them due to the above.
I'm afraid you're going to have to practice the 'art' of medicine in this case by actually listening to patients and doing some experimenting.
Before the AMA/FDA team got so efficient at silencing those who speak out, people like Dr Kelly had already cured 33,000 cancer patients, keeping
meticulous records. Max Gerson was doing similar, and published an 800 page book detailing 50 of his cures complete with full medical records. Both
men were thrown in jail and eventually fled the US in order to continue helping people to live beyond their allopathic death sentences.
Patient records are still on public display in Gerson's office in San Diego for anyone to go see (you included), although the clinic was moved to
Yes, I know, neither of these examples (picked from hundreds of possible examples) are or were using Beck or electro therapy. I am simply trying to
illustrate a point.
If you really believe in your vow of 'do no harm' it's time to drop the allopathic arrogance for long enough to open your mind and eyes to what has
been working for centuries, and continues to work, without doing any harm, and far more effectively than the best of the best that allopathy has to
offer (I'm talking degenerative disease).
To be honest, I can't understand how anyone can make an issue of 'do no harm' as you did earlier in the thread, and then defend chemo or radiation
or even surgery in most cases. Or perhaps you would now like to suggest that cut, burn, poison does no harm to the human body?!
As a final shot, you can find vast amounts of data on Linus Pauling and Ewen Cameron who demonstrated in Scotland (it was illegal to do the same
research in the US) that 10mg of vit C daily was more effective than conventional allopathic cancer treatment. In fact, patients who opted for NO
treatment and took the vit C lived TEN TIMES LONGER on average.
But I am sure you will dismiss this by quoting the 3 bogus Mayo clinic shams that apparently invalidated this Nobel Peace Prize winners research, even
though the Mayo clinic changed the research protocol and then claimed it was Pauling that 'did it wrong', and even though Pauling's research and
results were duplicated and validated in both Italy and Canada.
And then you will go on to continue to recommend chemo and radiation, even though the SCIENCE says that your patients will live TEN TIMES LONGER if
they refuse the allopathy and take 10g of vit C intravenously.
And then turn round here on ATS and innocently claim that you are 'just trying to do the best for your patients'.
[edit on 21/6/10 by RogerT]