Nigeria has oil spill that's been going on for over 50 years!

Saying that a yearly oil leak that is the equivalent to the valdez is not a good comparison to the botch they performed in the Gulf. No one has said truthful numbers, and worse, no one wants to hear them. For all we know there are three valdez's unloading every day, or hour, from that gash. Because the 'government' did nothing to isolate the coast from the no longer floating oil (corexit) they are fearful to come to grips with it. Therefore they will throw out ridiculously low numbers (using the media branch of government) which will add up to a few valdez disasters in volume. You'll note that no one in the media is asking the obvious questions about volume, or about why the normally separated liquids were (are being) made to come together with the poisons. They are playing along as though they care, but it's just another brick for them to handle on the way to their great wall. I mean, a child would ask better questions than what the media is showing, regarding every aspect. Shame on obama for being BP's bitch. This thing will drag on for years, and he'll be long gone, having given BP a limited liability. So sad. See how quick he moves when there's something in it for he and his buds? Let's berm the land against the oil, let's requisition every oil skimmer on earth from the get go....let's...ignore everything for 50 days and then cut BP loose from responsibility....

Originally posted by Merigold
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We ( as in We, I mean Americans) should be worried about the Gulf spill and Not the Nigeria leak

That's nice. And yet you expect the rest of the world to give a damn about YOUR problem.

You do get your comment has yet again solidified the stereotype of uncaring, selfish, uncouth and greedy Americans, right?

Well done. But then I bet you don't care.

I am from the U.S. and care a great deal about the rest of the world. I am shocked by this 50 year old oil leak. I have never heard of it. WTF? That is one hell of a cover-up. How did I miss this??? If the U.S. is responsible, they should clean it up. I think we need to stop using oil period. This is scarey stuff!!!!! How can we be so over powered by our governments that they keep getting away with ruining the earth????

Our air is polluted, water, food...all the elements in which we need to survive! The world's people must come together no matter where they are from. This has to stop!!

a valdez/year is nothing considering the GOM is bleeding an estimated valdez/day.....soo many estimates but one thing is for sure: if they dont fix it soon it could be multiple valdez's/day for many years

S&F OP
Very Nice find indeed !

Originally posted by henriquefd

Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
We should be worried about the Gulf spill and Not the Nigeria leak. We need to fix our problems at home. It's not I don't feel for those people but Obama is Not in charge of Africa. Let the African officials deal with their problems.

We? We who? When I say "we" on ATS, I mean the ATS community, which is represented all over the globe. I don't mean to be harsh, but your post makes it sound that when you say "we", you mean "us citizens". I am not a US citizen and I will keep worrying for both Nigeria and the Gulf of Mexico oil spills.

But don't worry. Obama has nothing to do with the Nigeria spill. He can focus on Deepwater Horizon. This oil spill is not yet another job for the US to fix. It´s Shell and Exxon who are responsible and who should be working on fixing this. But since it´s been going on for over 50 years, I will conclude that Shell and Exxon just don't give a damn. They can't tell me they have been trying for 50 years and could fix it. They just never cared for it, which is the same as not caring for nature and for human life.

I took this line in your Op: “President Obama is worried about that one,” Claytus Kanyie, a local official, said of the gulf spill, standing among dead mangroves in the soft oily muck outside Bodo. “Nobody is worried about this one."

To mean Claytus Kanyie feels that Obama and the American people did not care about the oil leak in Nigeria. He seems to feel this because we as a nation are not or have not been focusing on the problem in Nigeria.

That's what I take away from the above statement. I was simply pointing out we have our own problems to deal with at this time.

You people are taking what I said all wrong. I did not mean to imply we did not care about the problem in Nigeria.. only that the reason this official is not seeing American outcry is because we have other pressing matters close to home that takes our media's attention at this time.

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okay I think I might have worded my first post wrong. what I meant to say is that chile got almost no coverage in the media and haiti got a ton of it - much like this spill in nigeria vs the one in the gulf of mexico. I already knew that chile didn't need or want any large help from the United States. Yes haiti is the poorest nation on the planet but that doesn't mean the chile should be neglected.

Yeah this is crazy, I hope people start putting more pressure on these multinational oil companies to clean up their mess's around the world.
I first heard about this from "The Age Of Stupid" which I watched 6 months or so ago. It also shows some of the things Shell were supposed to develop like medical centres that are half finished and now overgrown with tree's etc.

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10% of USA oil imports come from there WILL they provide 10% of the clean up costs DOUBT IT!

LINK copy it and paste in browser address bar and hit enter

www.boston.com/news/world/africa/articles/2005/10/03/burdens_of_oil_weigh_on_nigerians/

last bit of text filterd weigh_on_n i g e r ians( LAST WORD NO SPACES)

The if you bothered to do a search you would see plenty on the net re this!

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The effects of oil in the fragile Niger Delta communities and environment have been enormous. Local indigenous people have seen little if any improvement in their standard of living while suffering serious damage to their natural environment. Almost 7000 oil spills occurred between 1970 and 2000

Recently foreign employees of Shell, the primary corporation operating in the region, were taken hostage by outraged local people. Such activities have also resulted in greater governmental intervention in the area, and the mobilisation of the Nigerian army and State Security Service into the region, resulting in violence and human rights abuses.

en.wikipedia.org...

Royal Dutch Shell plc, commonly known simply as Shell, is a multinational petroleum company of Dutch and British origins. One of the six "supermajors" (vertically integrated private sector oil exploration, natural gas, and petroleum product marketing companies), Shell was listed as the world's eighth largest corporation for 2010 by Forbes.[2] The company's headquarters are in The Hague, Netherlands,[3] with its registered office at the Shell Centre in London, United Kingdom.[

en.wikipedia.org...

So the spills in Nigera are from Shell a London, United Kingdom based business.


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Its A DUTCH/British company BUT if you look deeper the oil spills are caused by oil pirates stealing from pipelines.

Like I said 10% of USA oil imports are from there!

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In April, 2006, a bomb exploded near an oil refinery in the Niger Delta region, a warning against Chinese expansion in the region. MEND stated: “We wish to warn the Chinese government and its oil companies to steer well clear of the Niger Delta. The Chinese government by investing in stolen crude places its citizens in our line of fire.”

Chinese are steeling the crude.

en.wikipedia.org...

The biggest gas flaring company is the Shell Petroleum Development Company of Nigeria Ltd, a joint venture that is majority owned by the Nigerian government. In Nigeria, “...despite regulations introduced 20 years ago to outlaw the practice, most associated gas is flared, causing local pollution and contributing to climate change.”[3] The environmental devastation associated with the industry and the lack of distribution of oil wealth have been the source and/or key aggravating factors of numerous environmental movements and inter-ethnic conflicts in the region, including recent guerilla activity by the Movement for the Emancipation of the Niger Delta (MEND).

en.wikipedia.org...

And the Shell company operating in Nigeria, Shell Petroleum Development Company of Nigeria Ltd, is majority owned by the Nigerian government.

None of my links worked so post edited. Fail.

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From a large swedish newspaper:
www.dn.se...

(my google translate link wont work on this board for some reason)

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Great thread..

Reply for the bumpage!

You do have to wonder why Africa gets so neglected

wait wait a minute.

This is not on the same scale, nowhere near what is leaking in the gulf.

dont they are not losing hundreds of barrels in like half an hour.

I saw a documentery on this, making me the resident expert in all oil spill matters..

and they showed what was happening in nigeria, it is really realy bad, and sickening. it ruins lives, but dont think on the same scale.

I saw a lot of it was from, outlets in the oil pipes running through the country, were used, then they wouldnt do up properly, casing slow leaks. sometimes quite bad ones. and over time, had destroyed much of the land.

wtf, word filter changed n i g e r i a...

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Originally posted by JBA2848


en.wikipedia.org...

So the spills in Nigera are from Shell a London, United Kingdom based business.


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Jebus!!!!!! You're not even bothering to read your own post. Look up. ROYAL DUTCH SHELL. A DUTCH company.

Who also have registered offices in Houston Texas.

Originally posted by MR BOB

I saw a documentery on this, making me the resident expert in all oil spill matters..

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Well said sir, I commend you.

YES, thank you for posting this thread. While the gulf oil spill is a terrible and unprecedented environmental disaster that is very important, we must remember that a world exists outside of the United States where # like this goes on one-thousand-fold! The only reason BP is being held SOMEWHAT accountable here is because of the citizen's strength/outcry, we are still unacceptably powerless but Nigerians are far more powerless than we are. And the oil companies DO NOT GIVE A SH*T unless their feet are held to the fire. They could care less about some third world country and have thus let it gush.

I don't understand why oil companies haven't been punished very very harshly by government and citizens even decades ago... it's far far beyond ludicrous the things they've gotten away with throughout their history.

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The oil corporation was accused of collaborating in the judicial killing of author and activist Ken Saro-Wiwa, and eight colleagues from the Movement For The Survival Of The Ogoni People. As the plaintiffs declared victory, Shell described the settlement as "a humanitarian gesture" and denied involvement in the murders. For a company with $31 billion profits last year, the payout is small change.

Despite being resolved at the negotiating table, the case opens a new front in the ongoing struggle to bring corporations accused of human rights abuses to justice by establishing that the Alien Tort Statute can be used to sue overseas companies in the USA. Royal Dutch Shell is part British, with headquarters in the Netherlands, but a Court Of Appeals judge ruled that, as it has offices in New York, a civil case could be tried there.

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www.sundayherald.com...

Alien Tort Statute can be used to sue overseas companies in the USA.

Royal Dutch Shell is part British, with headquarters in the Netherlands, but a Court Of Appeals judge ruled that, as it has offices in New York, a civil case could be tried there.

Heres more on this case.

wiwavshell.org...

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