Originally posted by Jerry_Teps
0 Taxs =

0 Police officers.
0 Roads.
0 Government funded hospitals.
0 Military defences.
0 Government services.

We pay taxes for a reason, your tax money comes back to you in lots of different ways. Taxes pay for all government services you rely on.

[edit on 6-6-2010 by Jerry_Teps]

Your tax money does not come back to you. We are talking about taxing labor here, and when you file your 1040, if you do, not a cent goes to 'services' as you seem to believe.

You pay for 'services', whether you want them or not, through a multitude of other taxes. You buy gasoline, cigarettes, go for a few drinks on weekends? Great, you have paid your share....via indirect taxation.

Not that the police and military are services, but that is another topic....

solution is to get rid of money. money is man made...we lived before it we can live without it.

find another way around things because all money does it hold us back and slow the development of our species.

why havent we put a man on mars yet? money

why arent we switching to renewable clean energy sources? money

why are certain areas of the world struck with such immense poverty? money

i dont know what it is but there should be another way

Though the idea of a 20 hour working week seems to come from the right place, I would suggest the true answer is doing what we want to do to the benefit of all. If one actually LIKED what one did for a living, a 40 hour(or more) working week would be something we insist on rather than something we settle for. Ideally we would want to do the work that fits in with our talents, interests and passions-quantifying and standardising working hours would then become unnecessary.

As for zero taxes...the whole monetary system would need to be revised. That will have to be left to geniuses.

Originally posted by D377MC

Originally posted by Jerry_Teps
0 Taxs =

0 Police officers.
0 Roads.
0 Government funded hospitals.
0 Military defences.
0 Government services.

We pay taxes for a reason, your tax money comes back to you in lots of different ways. Taxes pay for all government services you rely on.

[edit on 6-6-2010 by Jerry_Teps]

Your tax money does not come back to you. We are talking about taxing labor here, and when you file your 1040, if you do, not a cent goes to 'services' as you seem to believe.

You pay for 'services', whether you want them or not, through a multitude of other taxes. You buy gasoline, cigarettes, go for a few drinks on weekends? Great, you have paid your share....via indirect taxation.

Not that the police and military are services, but that is another topic....

So then how are they funded? Without taxes, there would be no government funded police force or a military.

They would have to be privately funded.

EDIT: I see you're talking about service taxes, I was addressing taxes in general, since the OP does not state service or income taxes.

[edit on 6-6-2010 by Jerry_Teps]

Things that will happened...

You will begin to remove the pavement... And make gardens.

And people who is afraid they will have nothing to do - You don't understand the Difference between freedom and what we have today.

Freedom feels A lot different than you might think..

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You will use men and woman who can operate bulldozers to get down to the clean soil underneath the asphalt... You will work for freedom - and it will be achieved.

And your souls will be restored. And your families.

And Earth. It is with goodwill.
Think it.

I dont suppose any of you would go back to the garden of eden without knowledge of any kind,to be naked all the time with guys and girls( no knowledge of any kind ? no not here ). anything would be free right?

This will DEFINITELY happen very shortly.

Once the NWO folk have been eliminated... the world would become pretty much a Utopia.

Originally posted by galactictuan
This will DEFINITELY happen very shortly.

Once the NWO folk have been eliminated... the world would become pretty much a Utopia.

People are evil (and good) by nature my friend. Eliminate the hated and new shall rise to their ranks.

The idea of people working less for more has been suggested before have a look at:

Douglas Social Credit

It became very popular before the 2nd World War, a Canadian DSC government was formed, but it was destrpyed from within by the banksters to discredit DSC.

You'll also find that they call it anti semetic - a sure fire signal that they want to bury it and stop people from looking at it - if you talk about it you're a Nazi, etc.

The idea is basically that everyone gets an allowance from the government that gives you enough to survive.

You then have the choice of how much you want to work, if at all, to give you more money.

The supply of money is carefully controlled so that you don't end up with problems like we have now, tax etc is different.

It sounds interesting anyway.

Firstly,I am not trying to shoot down this thread in any way....

But the problem with converting to free energy,is that it requires the current system to produce it.Although it would be possible to convert to alternative energy sources,petroleum would be needed to produce components of it,so we would never be free of petroleum usage,we would use much less however.

A 20 hour work week sounds good,pretty much how I roll now BTW,but I see myself as an exception to the norm.I have come to realize that there is no real benefit to playing this silly game,and accepted a much reduced standard of living in my withdrawing from that game.I have decided that I would rather ride a bicycle to get around,than spend money for a health club membership as many do,I spend more time riding my bike around to get things done than I do working some weeks.No problem for me,but most are just too impatient.and/or lazy, to spend so much time getting around,even though they used to have to walk wherever they needed to go in the past.

No taxes would be a nice thing,and it used to be that only certain people had to pay them,now it is that those who used to pay taxes to keep things rolling,do not pay nearly as much as those who shouldn't have to and didn't have to in the past.I wonder how this country functioned from 1776 to 1913 without collecting income taxes?,nobody to ask because all those free people have passed on to the "Great Beyond",but that is the way it was once.

There would be nothing wrong with changing over to alternative energy sources,no taxes,or having more free time,but people are not ready to accept reality.They have gotten too used to living like kings and do not want to put any real effort into living their lives.

We have become as those who destroy us are,not all of us,but most of us.

Reality is comin' a knockin' soon for a lot of us,and the only way to change anything,is for us to change on an individual basis.If we all swept our own doorstep,we would be cleaning up our own little corner of the world,and the whole world would be a nicer place to live in.

We have become too accustomed to having others do the sweeping for us,and those we pay to do it have had their funding cut,and in turn reduced services.

All of the problems in this world stem from our own laziness,the work has already been done,all of the resources which were needed to get where we are now have already been extracted,yet we just keep taking more and giving back less.

Boycott your manufactured reality.

Originally posted by Power_Semi
The idea of people working less for more has been suggested before have a look at:

Douglas Social Credit

It became very popular before the 2nd World War, a Canadian DSC government was formed, but it was destrpyed from within by the banksters to discredit DSC.

You'll also find that they call it anti semetic - a sure fire signal that they want to bury it and stop people from looking at it - if you talk about it you're a Nazi, etc.

The idea is basically that everyone gets an allowance from the government that gives you enough to survive.

You then have the choice of how much you want to work, if at all, to give you more money.

The supply of money is carefully controlled so that you don't end up with problems like we have now, tax etc is different.

It sounds interesting anyway.

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