(Solution) Free Energy + 20 Hr Work Wk + Zero Taxes = Freedom

Hey google do you read :

An idea for google (like firm) or the states :

Build a lot of 100% automated plant in every country : where people could decide to buy and build what they want.

Buy farm, and contruct automated farm.

Then give your production (because the economy have changed and you are human) : or kill everybody because there is no more jobs, so nobody to buy, and no place to live... ( and you are not human )

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youre talking about Utopia here.An anarchist's dream maybe? Its just not gonna happen. Well i can think of a way. Kill all of the +40 year old polititians and let the young people(not yoopies) take over the politics.But america is a different planet anyways.Here in Venezuela we're still on a socialist/communist regime with a motherfunker that wants to own the country.


sometimes i think americans should be a wee bit more thankful for what ya have.Just a little.End Edit!

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You forgot about the mother of all free energy magnet motors, they run forever without the use of anything. Nothing is required not water, sun, anything just a few magnets. If the government would just give half of what they do to nasa, or other agencies we would be completely self sufficient right now when it comes to energy.

Paying interest is insane. Here is why:
- electronic money does not cost anything
- paper money costs nothing as well
- there could be administration fee for banks maintaining the service - may be 0.1% of the amount borrowed.

Paying tax is insane. Here is why:
- taxation is a modern form of feudalism
- taxation is violence, stealing, robbing - call it what you like
- taxation means government does not need to do genuine productive work to earn money

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I have never signed, agreed or voted on any legislation existing in the world. Some one else did it for me and now forces it upon me.

I say we bring the government back to it's original purpose. Laws and military only. Keep taxes the same until all debt is paid off, then lower them down to a minimal level.

30 hour work week is fine by me. Except my employer would still expect the same 40 hours worth of work!

Free energy=wonderful

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It would not make a race of lazy people, it would make a race of conscious and liberated souls. All free to peruse happiness which when freed from institutional thinking opens the flood gates of inspiration and subsequently fulfill our true purpose; Co-Creation.

Why not get rid of the typical currency altogether and replace it with a value system based on contribution to society. Let's say 24 hours worth of 'contribution to society' every week will allow you for all the basic necessities of life for the rest of the week. This could be 24 hours contributed to building roads, producing food/water, distribution of necessities, etc.

The more hours or the more valued your contribution (a revolutionary invention, a very specialized skill, etc)... the more "freedom" and "luxuries" you are entitled to.

This gives incentives for everyone to contribute to our growth as a collective civilization.

Of course a value system must be designed. What do we deem as "contribution"? What do we deem as highly valued "contribution"?

This all has to be worked out very carefully. You could prioritize our most important ambitions as a collective. Work towards free energy would be on top of the list as most valuable contribution to society. Then perhaps space travel. Revolutionary inventions that make the necessities of everyday life that much more easier to acquire. Etc.

A great contribution to one of these at the top of the list would mean, perhaps, many years worth of freedom.

With this sort of incentive I believe we'd be exploring other galaxies and living it up with free infinite energy in no time.

With a monetary system based directly on the value of contribution to society, there would be no room for the corrupt, no shortcuts to the top. Our growth as a collective would be stimulated with only the best of intentions involved -- there would be no other way.

Would do you think?

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
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1/4-1/3 try at least 50% and in some cases 75%.

No, doesn't have to be like that, it's just we are a enslaved species and most of us just simply are too stupid to rebell.

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Not in my case, and no one I know works that much. I dropped out of high school and can adaquately support my family if I work 30 hours a week... and I live in California too. Go figure.

We only have to give up what we "want" and be content with recieving what we "need".

Do the math:
Monthly expenses-
rent for a 1 BR apartment in California: $800;
utilities: phone (with Internet)- $95, electric- $100, gas and trash paid for by the landlord;
food: (I'll be way generous here) $500.
So, $1495 just to "get by".
Assuming 4 weeks in a month... working 30 hours a week... at 10 an hour and you'll earn 1200. Just 300 shy of that comfort zone. Work 40 hours a week and you'll earn 1600... more than enough to get by.

Feeling lazy?
Get a boy/girlfriend to move in with you and share the expense.

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that maybe what i see coming - a end to british american raping the people of earth of their natural resources. and since we are top dog
there is only one way to go - down - until we can reunify over something
I thought that was going to be a new investigation in to 911 - but I was shocked - when people find out about 911 - they get sort of turn white
and fearful. instead of igniting a unifing response to 911, most want to leave that chore up to someone else, its sort of cowardish in the eyes of this veteran. but you know they are wake when they pause and go quite and then they listen to what they are saying and a light bulb goes on.
we know this - history tells us this...
but what are we doing as a species on planet earth - whats our mission as breathing - thinking - animals of earth. most only know how to destroy. and we are here to destroy our space ship... no, thats the result the hidden guiding force is choicing for us.

from the beginning of the modern era - we have been extracting the earths materials bringing them into existance for use -

A astronaut said "every drop of water is still on earth from its creation except for what we have moved into space.

well - I heard the same thing about GOLD. every ounce ever mined is in someones possession.

and here is where the conspiracy or mysteries of history come in.
Ive heard of a Clay Tablet left by the Sumarians??? that basically
was a contract to provide aliens with GOLD for their Atmosphere.
maybe we have just met the order amount and we are ready to do the transaction...? everything doesnt have to take place in terms of our time.

and then you have the Energy -vs- Population "hockey stick" charts and
well, flood the Gulf with Oil, you would have to get a Phd in gulf nomics but I would have to say this oil leak could cause a dominoe effect that could trigger an event unforeseen today - but is the goal of who ever is resonsible for this eco-terrorism.

How could the Gulf effect other industries, Crops, Fisheries, Swamp - aquaculture Farming. and with un burned hydrocarbons - we could have health consecqueces as well. and depending on the desired damage to our ecosystems is achieved - what are we left with and how does that impact living here in the USA.

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Right now, if you have a good idea for free energy, you keep it to yourself and take advantage of it. Dont try to share with anyone. That's what i say !( and most important shut the hell up !)

Won't happen in your lifetime, or your children's. Nice pipe dream though.

Originally posted by Navieko
Why not get rid of the typical currency altogether and replace it with a value system based on contribution to society. Let's say 24 hours worth of 'contribution to society' every week will allow you for all the basic necessities of life for the rest of the week. This could be 24 hours contributed to building roads, producing food/water, distribution of necessities, etc.

The more hours or the more valued your contribution (a revolutionary invention, a very specialized skill, etc)... the more "freedom" and "luxuries" you are entitled to.

This gives incentives for everyone to contribute to our growth as a collective civilization.

Of course a value system must be designed. What do we deem as "contribution"? What do we deem as highly valued "contribution"?

This all has to be worked out very carefully. You could prioritize our most important ambitions as a collective. Work towards free energy would be on top of the list as most valuable contribution to society. Then perhaps space travel. Revolutionary inventions that make the necessities of everyday life that much more easier to acquire. Etc.

A great contribution to one of these at the top of the list would mean, perhaps, many years worth of freedom.

With this sort of incentive I believe we'd be exploring other galaxies and living it up with free infinite energy in no time.

With a monetary system based directly on the value of contribution to society, there would be no room for the corrupt, no shortcuts to the top. Our growth as a collective would be stimulated with only the best of intentions involved -- there would be no other way.

Would do you think?

I work on cell sites; giving the pimps the means to procure the johns; giving the dealers the means to procure the next sale, giving the addicts the means to procure their next score.
I should be set, high-rollin', ballin'... for the rest of my life, right?

65 stars for that?

what the hell is happening to ats.?

Originally posted by Freedom or Death
There are three key factors that we need to accomplish in order to set the world Free

1) Free energy - Solar, Geothermal, Wind, Tidal, Hydro, Nuclear Fusion

2) 20 Hour work week - Readjust the social programming of the population to accept a new paridigm of working less and making more

3) Zero Taxes - Paying on a debt that is quite literally impossible to pay is the definition of insanity. If it was possible to convince the masses that such a scheme was really ever achievable, then it is possible to convince the masses to accept zero taxation.


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Hey i think this is a brilliant idea! Don't forget pulse motors or magnetic generators. We should declassify all of Teslas documents so his machines can be mass produced for the benefit for mankind.

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I know of a man who lives where there is no electricity lines on the edge of a river. he converted his gasoline/natural gas electric generator into a HHO system with 24 Solar Panels. he says he got everything on ebay. anyway he only has to use 5 gallons of gasoline every couple of weeks.
he converts excess sun light into hydrogen >? which feeds the generator
for night use... typical dusk to 12AM, he has a solar water heater.
he has a 12 volt refridgerator & 12 volt Freezer. Propane stove....
he claimed he reduced his monthly fuel expenses by like 80%.
but it cost him like 100$ a month for maintenace and upgrades. so, the way I figure it - he aint saving much with his Free Energy Solutions. I could be wrong. it aint cheep to purchase either.

Originally posted by MR BOB
65 stars for that?

what the hell is happening to ats.?

Originally posted by abecedarian
I work on cell sites; giving the pimps the means to procure the johns; giving the dealers the means to procure the next sale, giving the addicts the means to procure their next score.
I should be set, high-rollin', ballin'... for the rest of my life, right?

I fail to see your point... obviously your contribution wouldn't be that high on the list, to say the least, and you'd have a real hard time earning any sort of freedom.

Not much incentive to be doing such things, would you agree?

Care to clarify?

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Hate to tell you guys, but "taxes" and "freedom" in the same sentence is arguably the worlds biggest oxymoron. It is interesting to see though, the rationalization for government and taxes in these threads. You want to fight the corrupt powers in the world by creating another one.

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OK : this is the road

And i see that there must be different money : one for the contribution in the society ( and for us buying goods ).

But : " how to great big projet ? " ( for instance , big project : from your idea : that people cannot understant yet for instance)

So i think you need to FULLY seperate : "one money for human being in the society" and an other "money for investment and ressources trade". I think people will agree with this : no more crisis : and support for innovation and for those who will try to build their dream ( because if not a communist hiearchichal society does not support innovation and new ideas ) ...

This is my vision for an economic system ( human based economy + capital for innovation ).

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Great Post!

Many on here are talking about how impossible it is to run society and it will never happen or never work. Well the system we have right now doesnt work. It doesnt work well at all. This site is full of direct evidence of that.

For the revolutionaries, like th OP, all we have to do is wait. The system will destroy itself. It was not set up for sustainability. Hell. The system was set up in 1776 - The year that both democracy and capitalism were invented! Now look how the world has changed since then. We need to update our society to fit with the current level of technology, tolerance and social stability. To keep trying to run the world on the old rules of competition, selfishness and greed is a road to nowhere.

So to all the believers, doesnt listen to the haters. Theyre scared. When this bogus, lying system of power and control comes crumbling down we'll need to rebuild it. But why make the same mistakes twice. When thie corrupt society comes crashing we'll need to have ideas like this ready and waiting to catch us before we fall into Hell