BREAKING: Natalie Holloway Suspect Joran Van Der Sloot Accused of Peru Murder

Originally posted by CanadianDream420
CNN BREAKING NEWS-- FBI paid Joran van der Sloot $25,000 to probe plan to extort Natalee Holloway's mom, law enforcement official says.

I just saw this on CNN too. I'm waiting for the story, as it's still breaking news. However, I have to wonder if this is entrapment?

Poor Joran,,,

lacks so much common scense,,,,

The sum bag in terms took the check and cashed it,,,,lol

And the scum happened to go to Peru ,,and leaves a few hours later with a dead woman in his room,,

set up???,,,not much common scense even if he thinks its stupidity if someone gives him 15k or 25k to paly a killer,,
Him playing james bond???

the guys a nutcase,,,killer and a sick f....

He's not going home from peru anytime soon,,,,lol

go lite a candle for him,,,nobodby care about the sick f...,,,even if he's innocent,,,

Its up to his mommy and his council now,,,and the scum will be in serious trouble if he tries putting the Peruvian system on trial saying he was forced to confess,,,

the guys history,,,,lol,,,

Im positive they will have quite a bit of evidence on him reguardless of his confession,,,

but wont matter to a few of the doorknobs here,,,

as long as he suffers Im happy...

Wow..

Federal law enforcement officials and a private investigator say the work on Holloway's disappearance was revived about six weeks ago when Van der Sloot, who is Dutch, reached out to someone close to the Alabama teenager's mother and requested $250,000 in exchange for disclosing the location of the young woman's body on the island of Aruba.

ca.news.yahoo.com...

Originally posted by EGO84
I think I'll start a topic about the whole possibility of it being a fix, although I'll go through the entire history from cnn and other newspapers such as from the Netherlands (as the sources, and nothing else). Although I'll be quite busy the coming days.

But a quick question...which papers/media are you following?

FOX
CNN
MSNBC
Local Detroit, MI
Yahoo News
A few others

more updates

LIMA, Peru – Police moved Joran van der Sloot to a cell at the prosecutor's office on Thursday as officials prepared to file charges following what they called a remarkably complete confession in the beating and strangling death of a 21-year-old woman.

"We've practically closed the case," criminal police chief Gen. Cesar Guardia told The Associated Press.

Guardia said Van der Sloot, who also remains the lone suspect in the Natalee Holloway missing-teenager case, "confessed with a wealth of details that have been corroborated through criminal investigative rigor."

I think we can go ahead and flush the idea that he is the victim of a conspiracy

a translator assigned by the Dutch Embassy was present, as was a state-appointed defense attorney.

Believing it was closing in on Van der Sloot, the FBI videotaped and allowed him to be paid $25,000 in a sting operation in Aruba last month. But it held off on arresting him, and he took the money and flew to Peru.

I hope this means it will be charged in the US also.

Guardia told the AP in an interview Wednesday evening that the 6-foot-3 (190-centimeter-tall) Van der Sloot, 22, impressed investigators with both his intelligence and brutality.

The general said Van der Sloot took Flores' cash, about US$300 worth of Peruvian currency, two credit cards and her national ID card. He apparently also took her Jeep Cherokee, which was found abandoned blocks away in a lower-class neighborhood.

Yet some here will still think SOMEHOW it is innocent.

news.yahoo.com...

[edit on 10-6-2010 by jfj123]

There are loads of reports coming out of Peru, even Chili, about the whole case. I'm getting fed up with all the contradictions, it's like nobody really cares about the truth and just want a confiction.

p.s. Why would he need a translator? He speaks fluent Spanish.

yet another update about vanderscum

Dutch murder suspect Joran van der Sloot told police investigators that he knows the location of the body of missing U.S. teen Natalee Holloway, the chief of Peru's criminal police said.

"He let slip that he knew the place where this person was buried," Gen. Cesar Guardia told The Associated Press.

Guardia said, however, that the 22-year-old Dutchman told investigators "he would only testify (on the matter) before Aruba authorities."

In addition to the government-appointed defense attorney, he said, a translator assigned by the Dutch Embassy was present at Monday's confession.

"The incriminatory elements were so powerful that he had to confess," Guardia said, adding that the evidence included blood stains found on Van der Sloot's clothing.

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I personally have seen no contradictions about vanderscum.
I also think it's completely irrelevant that he speaks spanish.

And lets keep in mind that he has admitted on tape to...at the very least, being involved in disposing of a body, kidnapping, selling someone into slavery, extortion. So even if he is innocent of murdering 2 people (he isn't), he's confessed on tape of those other crimes.

[edit on 11-6-2010 by jfj123]

Yeah, even if he didn't kill Natalie.. getting rid of a body is a crime.

Btw, a new video of him has been been released... Which would prove he did it. I just don't get why they suddenly decided to show this part of the video, which also seems to have a better quality.

But what I mean is... why would the Dutch embassy get him a translator when he speak fluent Spanish? That makes no sense, even in various video's he's communicating with the Chilean/Peruvian officers without any problems.

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ive just heard that as well,,,,,,

now,,,

I hope they are very carefull with this lieing scumbag,,,I wouldnt be surprised if that could be some ploy on his part to get back to aruba,,, then hire a team of defense lawyers to file some type of request that he be allowed to stay in Aruba due to being tortured/coerced to confess.

With his layers/connections there i would'nt take the chance of any bs such as that happening...

The guy admitted on tape with a few versions that he was involved some how in Natalee's death yet Aruba doesnt do a dam thing...

Screw Aruba,,,

maybe they want to save face incase he does admit to her death,,,gonna make them look pretty bad...

he better put up where the body is first,,,then they can work out the bugs,,(but reguardless,,Peru will be his first phase of prison life)

I hope they will be examining that lap top of his for clues as well,,,,

No conspiricy here,,,just dealing with a sick killer who lies..

he'll want to get back to Aruba and file some type of request with his connections there his dad had,,,and Aruba doesnt want to loose face so HELL NO SENDING HIM BACK SO HE CAN TELL WHERE THE BODY IS...
He'll say he was tortured in peru and he had to lie to get his freedom...
normally I wouldnt bash his mom,,,but im beginning to find her disgusting as well with his antics...

And it was good there was an interpeter from the dutch consultant there for him during the interveiws,,,shows he wasnt forced to confess or had a battery with electricle cables to his balls,,,

And i beleve its portugese more of the language there?,,if one speaks spanish you can get by,,
vanderscum could get by as a tourist but definatly needed an interpeter so he know what he is sighing as well..

case is closed,,,but vanders last trump card is natalee's body,,,

We will have to wait and see how the sick scum plays that out,,

Breaking - I have just hear on peruvian TV that Joran has confessed to killing Natalie Holloway. I will see if can find more, it literally was in the half time of the football.Might be old news but I dont think so.

Edit: Had a quick look online and there appears only more info on the FBI financing the sting on Joran. Nothing about his direct involvement.

[edit on 11-6-2010 by franspeakfree]

Ive been hearing reports also he is admitting killing Natalee,,,and will tell where her body is,,,

this was quite a bizarre case here,,,

still gonna be a tad carefull,,,

but i hope the case breaks wide open!!!

i assume he will try to get a reduced sentence in peru,,,,but then aruba he will have to do time for Natalee's murder when he's finished in Peru,,,


I assume he better fork up the body first!!!!,,As i said,,i dont want him going back to aruba then say he was forced to confess and his only way to freedom was to admit killing natalee to get back to Aruba...


FISRT THE BODY SCUMBAG!!!!

Originally posted by EGO84

But what I mean is... why would the Dutch embassy get him a translator when he speak fluent Spanish? That makes no sense, even in various video's he's communicating with the Chilean/Peruvian officers without any problems.

My guess is that they have provided a dutch translator since his primary language is dutch. They are probably covering their bases so he can't go back later and claim he did not understand something.

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This is exactly what they have done, well done to you sir. They hired a dutch translator and recorded it all before his defense attorney arrived to spin the crap. He allegedly broke down and told them more than he should of, according to his attorney. I will post more as I am updated.

more info

A Peruvian judge on Friday ordered Joran van der Sloot jailed on charges of first-degree murder and robbery in the killing of a 21-year-old Lima woman, determining that he acted with "ferocity and great cruelty."

Police say Van der Sloot smashed in the face of Lima business student Stephany Flores, whom he met playing poker at a casino, after taking her to his hotel room on May 30. They say he then strangled her, threw her to the floor and emptied her wallet.

Lima criminal police chief Gen. Cesar Guardia told The Associated Press on Thursday night that when Van der Sloot confessed to killing the Lima business student, investigators asked him about the Holloway case and "he let slip that he knew the place where this person was buried."

Guardia said, however, that the Dutchman told investigators "he would only testify (on the matter) before Aruba authorities."

www.usatoday.com...

I have 2 ideas as to why he wants back in aruba.
1. He has friends that will get him out and hide him.
2. His business associates can get at him more easily in peru, to silence him.

Im starting to to think this devil is smarter than I thought.

now he was 17 at the time of the crime,he will say it was an accident..

been so long now it will be hard to prove it was murder when they find the body,,,
(I suppose they could charge him with illeage dumping of a corpse at 17 yrs of age)

he will say it was an accident and he turned mental at the time he killed stephany due to his suffering thinking the world has convicted him.


He will have not one lawyer but a team of them in Aruba.

They will file petions on how brutal he was treated and forced to confess..

I think Peru has handled this case well and its gonna piss them off if the "Dutch Kingdom" pisses them off.

I know the where abouts of Natalee,, so can I only do a 9 yr sentence here?

I myself cant think Peru would think,,ok young man,,you are coming clean and we are going to give you a 9yr sentence becauce you know where another womans murdered body is.

He probly thought he could always say it was an accident and at 17 and was untouchable...(especially with daddy there)

vaderscum is a liar,perverted on the way with his antics,,

I personally woulda disowned a family memeber with his antics ,,,I can see sticking in 50 bucks for his canteen or such but WOULD not go around saying he is innocent with his sick and cruel antics....

pure sickness!!!!!!!

I hope Peru wont buy into his garbage,,,

Aruba would wipe the slate clean ,,just tell us where the body is.

Aruba,,I cant blame Aruba the whole, but the sick crumbs who protected him,,there,,the whole pea size court system...

we have # corruption here in crap corners so I am not saying we are any better,,

Im sure the scums who turned their blind eye are pissed or will try to save face,,

I dont trust the scum either way...

He's playing the Natalee trump card..,,,

and I had enuff of hearing lawyer # as well,,,everyone should have a good lawyer.
But this is a tuff job for any lawyer who defends him!!!!

Pay a lawyer 50 k he'll go in front of CNN and say he is innocent....

Vanderscum did this to himself,,

Its amazing ,,he is a devil and I wouldnt be of any more surprises that pops up,,,

Once he hits the prison system reality will strike hard...


And no Joran,,,we dont need you personally to show us where the body is,,just tell us you liar scum bag...

as for natalee's mom,,,stay stronge,,,dont let this scum arrive in Aruba and have his team of lawyers file a motion to keep him there..
Im sure they have a residue of power there,,,!!!

Let the scum take the max in Peru....

Be the best as well,,he'd # his ass if you tell him frick off,,,enjoy your stay in Peru!!!!


Lets the scum get The justice he needs there,,,no 50/50!!!!

Hate to post again...

But there will be no justice giving vanderscum a break there in peru,,

In Aruba he could order pizza and watch cable tv in his cell..

2 dead women and he will be a free scumbag at 40ish,,,,,,,and a private jet waiting for him once he is released..

just a few updates

Angry Peruvian onlookers shouted "Disgrace!" and "Murderer" at Joran van der Sloot on Friday after a judge ordered him jailed on first-degree murder and robbery charges in the violent killing of a 21-year-old Lima woman.

Prosecutors said the Dutchman, who was taken to a segregated block of an eastern Lima prison, acted with "ferocity and great cruelty" in killing business student Stephany Flores in his hotel room after they met playing poker.

Looks like the Peruvians don't like to have their citizens murdered. I'm wondering if he's afraid of being killed either in jail or before trial and that's the reason why he's willing to give up the location of natalie's body????
The police have given him a bullet proof vest.

Aruba's attorney general, Taco Stein, told The Associated Press on Friday he is skeptical Van der Sloot was telling the truth about Holloway's body. He said Aruban officials will decide whether to sent investigators to Peru to question him once they learn exactly what he is offering.

I'm not sure why the AG would be skeptical. Of course he knows where the body is located. Peru could make a deal with aruba to send vanderscum to aruba to tell them where the body is then turn him back over to peru or better yet, US authorities. I'd like to see him rot in a US prison. A foreigner who killed an American would be tortured endlessly

news.yahoo.com...

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one thing is for sure,,they got the scum bag,,,,

but this scumbag lies so dam much,,

now his attorney ,,,probly told him if we can get you back in Aruba,,we can file a petition with the court to keep you in Aruba and you were forced to confess or BS type stuff.

also,,he was 17 at the time in the Holloway case,,,and I assume the liar will say he didnt kill her that she fell and hit her head or some BS...
Now,,if they charge him as a minor when the crime was commited and cant prove he murdered her,,

theres not a whole lot they can do,,,Im sure they can charge him with something,,probly just be a few years sentence..

And there should be no REASON WHAT SO EVER he should be able to cut a deal in the Peru murder because he will tell where Natalee's body is,,

he's playing natalee as a trump card,,,as i said,,,Aruba might not be able to do much being 17 at the time of the crime.
(Aruba and the dam dutch kingdom court system had their chance there)(and not saying our doesnt stink either)

i dont trust vanderscum at all,,

Id first want to have him tell us where the body is,,(and no Joran,,we dont need you to show us personally)you can tell us in your peruvian jail cell..

i smell something real stinky on the deal here that would be an insult to justice..

also,,he's better in a pervuvian prison and not a US prison,,,Its way more hell there for him...

Theyd have in a special segregation unit where he'd be a 100% safe(beleive me on that)
Im sure his lawyer wants his ass outta peru asap,,,

all we can do is wait,,but the news will be in trickles now..and some months befor he has his trial of judges who sentence him.

hes now also being accused of extorsion
niceeeeeeee

From what I hear, based on an experts report, he could have been set up.

But would people be interested in hearing the truth or would they just like Joran to be sent down for a murder he might not have done for a death he might not have been responsible for, if there was a death.