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Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by thoughtsfull
But I bet he'd be more than happy to let Indians celebrate Diwali or Muslims celebrate Ramadan without any hint of racist claims.
Like I said, a prime example of trying to quash English culture as racist, while allowing other cultures to celebrate their heritage without restraint.
What is it about being English that requires people to try and supress it?
Originally posted by Extreme Pilgrim
reply to post by stumason
I think the issue for most english people is that they just don't have the get up and go to implement a proper celebration. All I ever seem to hear is that 'we need a bank holiday'. Well, St Patrick's Day gets a massive turnout because the Irish have made it that way and the corporations, the media and other nationalities have jumped onboard for each of their various reasons.
If people had true conviction in promoting their so-called Englishness, then they would be out there and doing something to about it. If you want to fly a flag, fly it. It you want to wear a football shirt wear it. As long as your good behavior matches your enthusiasm for your cause, then you should have no problems, despite whatever the Daily Mail says.
Originally posted by Ulala
Originally posted by SearchLightsInc
reply to post by Ulala
[quote[If they've arrived in the UK legally they've every right to apply for housing ... the key is the word "apply" ... you don't get points because you're black. You get points because you're homeless & half a hundred other reasons. If more council housing is required, then elect a government or council committed to doing so ... oops, you guys just voted Conservative ... so that's that one shafted. Maybe you could tell the darked skinned fellows to sleep in a tent in a park instead, might suit your culture better.
Well i am not talking about legally. I am talking about migrant family who have a house, which may not meet their needs and yet they are placed on the housing list ABOVE an english family (specificly white) who had their name on that list YEARS before any foreirner. Is that fair, considering both familys are in the same situation?
How it should be is how it was - First come first serve. But what the frack do i know? i'm just someone talking sense.
I don't know anybody who thinks "British "culture" is scum. And I don't even think you know what culture even is anyway. So you celebrate the Saint of your country, yeah ? And how does that celebration manifest itself ? Do you go to church, to worship ? Give thanks to your saint ? Write a poem or strum a guitar and sing some songs around a campfire ? Perhaps getting drunk in a pub on a Sunday lunchtime, walking down a "Paki street" with your St George flags and breaking a few windows ... isn't that more likely ?
Well these days we dont do much, would be nice to have a parade without some minorities moaning and ruining it for people. Its like having a birthday and inviting that one person who cant cheer the hell up. I think where you go wrong in your last quote (For some strange reason) is that you generalise all the english to be racist lol I was smiling when i read it because its just typical arrogance from someone who doesnt have a clue. You say i dont know culture and yet you generalise all the english are racist? Well, i guess thats freespeech and all.
Prerogative, that's prerogative. I'm not even British and can spell your own words better than you. That doesn't mean I'm better than you in any way shape or form, but I'd be well impressed if you could tell me the name of the President of Finland, for example, or the King of Norway, without resorting to google. See, me foreigner, me takey interest in da English t'ings. You, you English, you aint gotta clue.
Oh dear me, the spelling police XD you might aswell arrst me now because if you think i'm going to spell check this post for you, you are misguided. Your not british? then you probably speak more then one language? I really envy your lingustic ability, to the point it threatens me and i feel stupid when matched against you. Not bring british, you get sarcasm right? hope so. The president of findland? Cant say hes that important enough to make british news regulary, if even at all. and the kings of norway? I dont know any but if thats have you judge someones intelligence then obviously your an idiot. But thank you for taking the time to try and debunk my racist POV.
Hope you had a great day with the sun.
What do you define as "English culture" then anyway, this "culture" that dark skinned foreigners are subverting ... dazzle us with your special insight on English culture.
Read the OP, usualy helps.
Originally posted by Dermo
reply to post by Peruvianmonk
No offense here..
But EU immigration into the UK is too much?
Tell that to the Spanish with their Million Spare Brits lying around taking their jobs..
But of course thats different somehow..?
Im not one to complain about Immigration/Emigration because Irish history is rife with it **Ahem** But at least look at both ends of the stick..
Originally posted by Mesdoline
OP, this how your post and all the others like it sound to me...
"I hate all these coloured people coming into my country! Bla bla bla... with all their weird cultures and weird languages and weird religions that are making me feel uncomfortable because I'm actually racist and feel that, nowadays, I can't express freely just how racist I am like people in this country used to be able to do before it became all liberal and embracing and bla bla bla. Now I have to resort to making racist posts which are written in a politically correct way on ATS because if I wrote to my MP about this or spoke to most British people in general they would all call me racist bla bla bla and it's so unfair cry cry bla bla. Why can't my country be more white like it used to be bla bla bla.
There's a difference between being British and being English. People don't seem to understand that. A British person can be any colour skin or have any religion, they can be Chinese, Indian, Spanish. I'm British but I'm not English even though my parents were born in this country and their parents before them and my mother is as white as snow, but even she wouldn't call herself English. A hell of a lot of people in England have grandparents/ great grandparents and so on that came from other countries as well as those from europe. What threads like yours are actually complaining about is how anti English it is to have too many people in our country who aren't English.
If it makes you feel better stick an England flag on your car and go about your way, nobody else will really give a flying poopie what flag you put on your car but if it gives you a boner go right ahead.
Originally posted by Tiger5
reply to post by JakiusFogg
St Patrick's day seems to have has been around longer than St George's day. Dare I say that in the bad old days (1950's /60s )it was the immigrant Irish that felt the need to assert their culture in England. Besides St Patrick's day has become a day of fun for all without being specifically Irish.
Originally posted by Tiger5
the English need to realise that theirs is the dominant culture and Englishness is therefore a given. If I step back we are surrounded by Englishness and rightly so. I don't see why a few fundie moslems generate such an uproar. I do not bdelieve Englishness is so fragile. It has been around for centuaries.