Debate: Should We Fear or Welcome Alien Contact?, page 2


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reply posted on 4-5-2010 @ 08:46 AM by Ophiuchus 13
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R.I.P. Native Americans, I welcome them if they welcome me.
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reply posted on 4-5-2010 @ 09:00 AM by UberL33t
I'll quote from the OP in my thread as it applies to the relevance of this thread.

My thread
The Alien Threat, or lack thereof IMO

Originally posted by UberL33t
It amazes me at the fear that encompasses the whole "disclosure" ordeal. The only threat I see is human in nature. Meaning, if in fact Aliens are here and zooming about our planet, I firmly believe it's not because of some diabolical plan to eradicate us from existence.

This argument may be validated if we (in our current state of evolution) were capable of interstellar travel, for we would then, for all intensive purposes, perhaps be considered a threat to the Universe. We have yet to even amass a manned mission to Mars in our current technological advancement.

So if anything, we're merely being observed. The only threat that is prevalent is the threat to ourselves and the Earth that we inhabit. If I had to guess, Aliens that might be observing us have the attitude that is best depicted in the following montage and nothing more.




All the Best,
UberL33t



reply posted on 4-5-2010 @ 09:13 AM by Beamish
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I'm basing my preparedness on my personal views to me i am ready. no matter what happens.


I think I’m ready too.

But what if something happens during contact that we weren’t expecting; an aggressive incursion devoid of mercy, evangelical missionaries devoid of reason, wild game hunters seeking six billion trophies?

What if “they” have the technology to wipeout certain parts of our memories and use this tech as a divisive weapon? You wake up one morning to ships in the sky, but more importantly no one on the planet knows, or trusts, any one else.

…well if thier malevolent aliens then were screwed…Anything is better than our current situation.


How many people blithely say the same thing, not really considering the consequences of outside – and superior - interference?

How would we know we weren’t being lied to?


reply posted on 4-5-2010 @ 09:32 AM by pitchdragon
first sorry for my english i try to do my best


we must learn from our mistakes, how long ? the time passe and we learn nothing from history, the same war , the same hate,always the same conflicts betwen people all over the world, we are not evolving anymore,we turn around on and on, what is Evolution ? that is the big question... certainly not the technology or the way we live,humans know a great handicap, BORDERS , we are not united, many says our neighbor are a threat , it's all about money and Economy, the only thing i could say inside our mind our spirit we are already dead...human being must be reconnected... we should stop this arrogance, as soon as possible or like all the others we will vanish.
Alien species could not interact with people like us,they will introduce them self as a species, they will speak in the name of their entire species.But for us ? who will speak in the name of our species ? we don't understand actualy what is a global unity, we think as a race and not as a species, we protect first our country instead protecting our planet, alien could not contact a specific country because eatch one protects these interests... even if they decide to talk to all the races in planet earth maybe a meeting with presidents of eatch country, it could not be possible...can you imagine in the same room USA, NORTH COREA,PALESTINE,ISRAEL,FRENCH,GERMANY,AFGhANISTAN and all the others, all this country making war for oil, weapon and money, i dont think so... what should we do then ?

But in the case those alien are destructive and a threat, it dosen't matter they will annihilate us, the same way as we do for ourselves ...


reply posted on 4-5-2010 @ 09:33 AM by True-seer
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And what makes you so sure of this do you information the rest of us dont.

Cmon spill the beans


reply posted on 4-5-2010 @ 09:42 AM by spacevisitor
Originally posted by True-seer
Debate: Should We Fear or Welcome Alien Contact?
There is a debate going on inspired by the comments of Professor Stephen Hawking, who in a recent release, states that although he believes in the possibility of life elsewhere, he believes we should NOT attempt to contact them.

Now it's your turn. What do you think? Should we be fearful of alien contact?


Hi True-seer, here are my thoughts about it.

It’s really amazing and in my opinion quite disturbing to see how people like in this case Professor Stephen Hawking, who is no doubt an icon in the scientific community, comes with statements like that, when there is on the other hand during the last sixty to seventy decades so many information accumulated that clearly shows that “they” are already here.

So his advice to NOT take attempts to contact them is already overruled.

It are such Unwelcome statements what people must really Fear, because they show clearly that the scientific community has still the unwanted and in fact unacceptable intention of keeping this already ET presence under wraps.

Originally posted by True-seer
The reason is that the aliens may be hostile, and when they pinpoint our location, they could invade, and enslave us, much like some recent movies depict. He stated that: "If aliens visit us, the outcome would be much as when Columbus landed in America, which didn't turn out well for the Native Americans


He is right by saying that aliens may be hostile, and you can read if you want my thoughts about that here.

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Originally posted by True-seer
My Personal View on this matter is that we should not Fear Contact, I'd welcome it with open arms. Thier is Several reason people may fear them but if they wanted to get rid of us, they would have already.


I have my personal view on this matter and you have yours, but know that despite I have the opinion above, I nevertheless respect yours.


reply posted on 4-5-2010 @ 09:45 AM by Beamish
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I go with the weight of the evidence being they are here and have been here off and on for thousands of years.


As long as we’re in the realms of assumption here, let’s expand on that concept; in that period of them visiting, we have witnessed them countless times.

Maybe even interacted with them directly.

Perhaps even owe our existence to their technology.

Perhaps we built up religions and philosophies that were originally based on their presence, interaction and teachings. Those religions changed and have now been usurped and transformed into forms of global control devised by the unscrupulous and power hungry to control the masses.

Yet, the perhaps inadvertent founders of these religions do nothing about the consequences of their actions.

And today, in the year 2010, as we accomplish our highest technological achievements, we are still fighting over the Earth’s raw materials, other people’s land, and in the name of conflicting creeds.

Yet, the perhaps inadvertent instigators of these divisions do nothing about the consequences of their actions.

With that assumption in place then one must conclude they are not a threat


Really? What does that make them then? Caring? Attentive?

If they have knowingly allowed philosophies established on them to prosper and go on to divide us and drive us to kill each other, then how can they not be deemed a threat?

This is what I mean about us expecting them to behave in a recognizable manner, and how dangerous an assumption that may be.

For all we know, our current situation could well be exactly what they were expecting when they began visiting us all those millennia ago. We may just be an interesting experiment.

And if it wasn’t their intention, then why haven’t they stopped all the bloodshed?

Neglect that leads to death is murder by another name, isn’t it?

Just my opinion.



reply posted on 4-5-2010 @ 11:07 AM by ShadowArcher
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Correct me if I am wrong, but all the places/times where aliens are believed by some to have been present were pretty peaceful places/times, weren't they? I think it is a bit much to say its all their fault. We make our own choices, after all - influenced or not.


reply posted on 4-5-2010 @ 11:46 AM by daddio
reply to post by True-seer



We should never fear anything. If aliens do exist they could have wiped us out many, many years ago. If there plan is to take us over, same thing, it would have been easier for them to do that with FAR LESS humans on the planet.

This is what I don't understand about most people, NO COMMON SENSE is used when they make statements. Use your head people. Who benefits from the fear mongering? THE ELITE!!!!!!

Fear not, welcome all.
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