Alleged NASA -Affiliated Astronomer Deciphers 'Intelligence' Signal From Nearby Stars

reply to post by butcherguy


It's my opinion that both Wayne and Judy thinks there are aliens from Pleiadies and somehow they are our masters. A lot of things sure seem to involve the Pleiadies with those two.
Edited to add: I think the Pleadies claims go way back to their younger years.

[edit on 11-8-2010 by Marrr]

I found something a little unusual and then again it may be nothing.
Ran across that old blue screen scrolling video announcing the Judy and Wayne alien signal discovery. This was on an Italian and an Indian site that apparently had the same source. What was unusual was the tag under the video showing the keywords.

As we all know, keywords are normally random popular words tied to the subject matter and used to send traffic to your site from searches. The better the keywords the better chance of taking traffic from your competitor or driving more traffic to your site.

Ex. tag - cat

keywords - feline, calico, kitten, etc.

May not have explained that quite right but its close. anyway, the keywords under the videos read more like a sentence than random "key" words. This is how it is written:

"People Breaking Wayne Signal 2010 ancestors from the stars"

Each word can be clicked on just like normal key words but I find it odd to write them this way.

If that is meant to be a sentence, It speaks volumes. Especially the "Wayne signal". Is this a clue to what they were planning?

see example: www.orientizer.com...

Scroll to bottom of that link.

Working on some new info acquired today will post later.


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You sure work hard dcmb!
You're almost as dogged as Wayne in your internet endeavours.

Not sure what that tag means, if anything. The ancestors tag is a little strange though. No mention of who uploaded it so hard to track.

But meanwhile, back at the observatory, Judy is now in South Africa Seti at Home

"Originally from Sweden. Now living in South Africa and running a private as well as..."

Unfortunately that's all you can read 'cause you have to be a member to get any further.

But I'm confused as to where her location is. Last we heard she was in Chile having a party for new radio telescope. Didn't she say she needed a visa for South Africa?

Man, she sure must rack up some frequent-flyer points.

reply to post by Netties Hermit


The ancestors tag led me back to Dimmuland again today. Her SETI site says she is from Sweden. Ran across a book site from one of her funky ways of spelling Falkstog. Only problem is I don't see her name anywhere on the page only 80 page paperback books on stars in Waynes area. They are selling for 19.99 and look real cheesy. Didn't see any sales or comments on them.

www.bootes-sale.co.cc...

SETI: Milkyway@home - Sweden

uotd.org...

Errr, I mean Germany. SETI@home - Germany

si.boincstats.com...

still digging.





[edit on 12-8-2010 by dcmb1490]

[edit on 12-8-2010 by dcmb1490]

Originally posted by Netties Hermit


But meanwhile, back at the observatory, Judy is now in South Africa Seti at Home

"Originally from Sweden. Now living in South Africa and running a private as well as..."

Unfortunately that's all you can read 'cause you have to be a member to get any further.

I happen to be a member of Seti@Home, so I thought I could help out a little here:

Personal background
Originally from Sweden. Now living in South Africa and running a private as well as government program similar to SETI with a parabollic aray of 10 meter dishes. Believe in extraterrestrial life in the cosmos.

Thoughts about SETI and SETI@home
I believe 2012 will be a year in which we will make contact. SETI I admire your work done so far. I am a great admirer of Jill Tartar, who has been my inspiration and role model.

Gee, you'd think a NASA affiliated astronomer would know how to spell the term "parabolic array". I'm no astronomer and I didn't even have to look it up.

reply to post by Xenophobe


Thanks Xenophobe, that's great.

So it's all hotting up for 2012 - wow, haven't heard that before.

(Note: Well, I had to look up "parabolic array" and I STILL don't understand it however it's spelt.)

reply to post by Netties Hermit


Well, according to Wikipedia List_of_radio_telescopes#Africa, there are no 10m radio telescope arrays in South Africa.

reply to post by Xenophobe


Yes, mmm. Not surprised.
Pick between Sweden, Chile, Germany or South Africa. Last it was Chile.

Some earlier quotes (that have probably now been deleted from the various pages)

" I am a radio Astronomer working on the SETI project at a Radio Astronomy Observatory in South Africa."

"Astrophysicist / Theoretical Cosmologist at Spacecomm Systems, Germany"

"...we would like to invite you to the opening ceremony of my latest aquisition, an Earth Station that we have bought and modified into a Radio Telescope. I own 4 Radio Telescopes now. Its got a 25 meter dish and loads of special electronics for continueing my research here in Chile."

Thanks again Xenophobe.


[edit on 12/8/2010 by Netties Hermit]

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And a quote from Wayne himself from earlier on his FB:

"Now Judy coincidently is in the Netherlands, is with a radio telescope concern, the story has a Mars face connection, the story has an orion alignment connection and she did claim similar message 'binary' encryptions and is currently incognito. My concern for her is expressed clearly on facebook for these reasons."

So we can add the Netherlands as well.

I tend to believe Wayne because he has never lied.

Originally posted by Xenophobe


I happen to be a member of Seti@Home, so I thought I could help out a little here:

Personal background
Originally from Sweden. Now living in South Africa and running a private as well as government program similar to SETI with a parabollic aray of 10 meter dishes. Believe in extraterrestrial life in the cosmos.

Thoughts about SETI and SETI@home
I believe 2012 will be a year in which we will make contact. SETI I admire your work done so far. I am a great admirer of Jill Tartar, who has been my inspiration and role model.

Gee, you'd think a NASA affiliated astronomer would know how to spell the term "parabolic array". I'm no astronomer and I didn't even have to look it up.

Not to mention that she ought to know that the DISHES are parabolic, not the ARRAY...

That should properly read "an array of 10 meter parabolic dishes".

One wonders where she finds the funds for a single 30 meter dish, much less an array of them. Maybe makes them out of scrap lumber and chicken wire?

I sold my 3 meter dish. Couldn't pick up the Arcturian broadcast of "Mork and Mindy" any more. Besides, Judy's arrays of TEN meter dishes were giving me a bad case of dish-envy...

its funny how judy thinks 2012 will be the year we make contact when she has already claimed to have made contact this year!.

honestly, how did this person manage to fool anyone ever?. almost every post she/he makes contradicts something she/he has already said either earlier or on a different website!.

she/he doesn't seem to be very intelligent at all and is an extremely bad liar!.

and thanks for the help Xenophobe.

thanks

rich

Welcome -Xenophobe, to the show that never ends!

I've found myself struggling to grasp the over all plan
of Judy...
I mean, let's say Judy REALLY is an astromoner...
(all together now, JUDY REALLY IS AN ASTRONOMER!)...

A Swedish Dr. Judy and her associates, locate a signal that
indicates that there is alien intelligence and they're talking
to others. The young girl has somehow acquired employment
at NASA and enjoys the searching of the galaxies.
This is something that she can't believe... the aliens are talking
and our world is listening!!

The fever of finding this, pushes Doc Judy to blurt out on her
website or sites like a mondern-day Paul Revere, that the
Pleiadians are coming and they've got something to say...
in a subcarrier!
NASA step in and call the bad boys, who as we know, always
get asked 'whatcha gonna do?'

The forces that control and supposedly manipulate, step up
(we were included, remember) and make it seem like a hoax.

One of Dr. Judy's contacts in the outside world is Wayne Herschel.
A writer and a self-confessed researcher in looking at the world's
history from other angles.
His book is struggling to obtain a wider audience and he sees this
new-found information as a chance to prove some of his theories.

Then Dr. Judy stops with the information, the audience that has
assembled on the internet wonder and theorise on her predicament.
As she been stifled by hidden forces?
Did NASA confiscate her computer?
Did the Men-In-Black approach her and whisk her off to a darkened
room?...
who can tell us?

Mr. Herschel steps up to the plate and attempts to allay the
masses fears. "She's okay, she's in a safe place now" he says
fills in some gaps with with his theories.

The bad boys do their job and the idea that all of this was a hoax
spreads around the internet. Wayne argues the point and then
agrees that is was a hoax, and he like all of you, was duped too.

The Dis-info guys haven't finished yet and they start turning stones
over in Dr. Judy's past and find that she was once a man...
(put your hand down -RICH!)... and that she/he lived for a while in
the North-East of England.

Someone accesses one of the sites that are discussing the strange
tale of the 'signal-that-never-was' and berates one of the Posters
with rants that indicate that N-East of England still speak Dickensian!
(...Buy me the biggest goose in all of London!)- pronounced Landan!

Still, some of Dr. Judy's past comes back to haunt her and the
information displayed on some of these pages, show that she/he
had a troubled past and left loved ones with the idea that the Doc
likes to use people for her/his own ends... (you have no idea how
difficult it was not to add a 'funny' in there!)

Wayne distances himself from Judy/James... (his first real name)
and yet the girl/boy in the NASA cap still drops him a line, inviting
Wayne and his family down to Chile to look at Judy's newly-bought
parabbo... parabol... curved dishes.

Wayne goes on line and discusses his theory of how the ancients
(wtf?) used to worship another sun... no, no- not the one everyone
else thought, The 'Waynster' has discovered via his research, that
certain races here on Earth, knew of distance solar systems and liked
them better.
Earth argues back and Wayne doesn't like it.

"Forget about Dr. Judy, we're talking about how the British Museum
is astounded by my work" he snaps at certain parts of his on-line
audience.
Some doubt his sincerity and Wayne decides they're Dis-Info guys
trying to take him out... just like they did with Doc Jude.

Through his on-line audience, emails are pasted on, showing that
the British Museum ISN'T looking or astounded at his work and
then Wayne... (and possibly his nephew!)... stamps his feet in a
tantrum.

Back on the mainland, it's seen that Wayne and possibly others,
have been banging around the internet -posing as other people
and discussing the 'Wayne Herchel's theories' and attempting to
stir up interest.
The only downside is that some people know about his ruse and
ask him what he's doing and why.
Dr. Judy...? she sits in a wooded glade and practices her Wiccan
spells and dreams of Vampires.
While our intrepid hero struggles to slay the dragon that asks for
the story behind 'The Judy And Wayne Saga'

Did I get it right?

[edit on 13-8-2010 by A boy in a dress]

Originally posted by A boy in a dress
Did I get it right?

Did you get it right?
DID YOU GET IT RIGHT?
If there was an Oscar for "summing things up" then you would without a doubt win, hands-down.*

Once again, I am speechless, BIAD.

*Sorry, dcmb, I know your condensed thread is good, but this one needs to go in the extra special category for summary-with-intent-for-humor.

[edit on 13/8/2010 by Netties Hermit]

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*Giggles behind red-nailed hand*
Thank you... I wondered if all this would come
off as a novel!

This IReport is fascinating:

ireport.cnn.com...

And thanks to dcmb1490 for the link.
The way Wayne implys he's a little 'square' when it
comes to certain areas of ComputerLand and yet,
the response regarding his 'SuperStar' status, I believe
is to goad responses.

But heh...? what do I know? I'm a dis-info agent.

reply to post by A boy in a dress


Wow BIAD, that summary was awesome and said it all. I take my hat off and bow. When is your video coming out? I'm still waiting on Wayne Herschel's per this conversation:

-Wayne Herschel- Judy said... "Got a lot of confused people walking up and down the corridors here at the observatory. Hope they keep politics out of science!"
also... "... doing a link-up on AMSAT ( X-Band ) You should get Visuals from my side in a few minutes. Negotiated a free transponder with the satellite operator. Sending you Frequency, SR, FEC and encryption by mail.
(posted about 10 mins ago)
(Wayne knows Astronomy himself so I'm gathering she is sending some technical data across to him in due course)

Its not on youtube, come on Wayne we want to see the video also. Being an astronomer and all yourself and a master video producer you should share this information from your BBF.


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Thanks dcmb1490,
I wrote the summary in the same way that Wayne writes his points of
view on a subject.
There are certain key words, phrases etc... that 'hook' a reader and if
you're dabbling in the area where readers/listeners need something to
hang on to, then these words and phrases are important.
Like these for Ufo buffs:
'... most of the bluff showed debris and the desert floor was littered
with strange material'
'... NORAD reported no aircraft in the area and yet, these strange craft
were regularly seen by the townsfolk'
'... most astronauts agree that they were not alone when they were up
there'
'... What are they hiding on the base? Recently leaked documents
show...'

For Cryptozoology:
'... lurking in the depths and yet no sonar can locate any large
creature'
'... moved across the road with huge strides and his shaggy hair
seemed...'
'... Scientists agree that such a creature should have died out with
the dinosaurs'

Hard dry facts such as Judy passed along, are great. They're boring
and yet if they're 'dumped' in such a fashion along with 'business-like'
words -such as 'Negotiated' and '...and encryption by mail' so that it
sounds oh-so grown up and real!

But we want the sugar... and Wayne knows this.
'-Wayne Herschel- Judy said... "Got a lot of confused people walking
up and down the corridors here at the observatory.
Hope they keep politics out of science!'

Classic formal wording and yet the hook is firmly inserted.
We set the scene that these are no-nonsense scientists (white coats
a-flutter as they run from machine-to-machine!) ... and yet these guys
with their greasy hair and thick spectacles are at a loss at what to think
about all this!
The writing implies that only l'il Judy is accepting the situation and thank
God... she's letting a like-minded searcher of the truth in on this
wonderous time.

But wait... what about the quote: '...Hope they keep politics out of science!'...?
That's our way out. That's giving a heads-up to the reader that forces
may come into play that will leave us with nothing but debate and possibly
more 'sofa-research'

What is left? Wayne is left like us, the door is firmly shut on whether
the aliens were talking and damn-blast! the Government win again.
"Why won't they let us in on it all?..."
"we can handle it... we can take it..." *folds arms and shakes head*
"I only wish there was someone out there like me... who may know
SOME of the answers"

"Wait a moment... this Herschel guy...? he may know more? hmm....
I'll check his website out for anything that may assist"

And there you have it.
Your yearnings and wants are answered, your need to seek the truth
that you want -lays in the writings and talks... and there's always more.

"Roll on up and see the marvels of the world" "Pay at the door and enter
the tent at your peril"

Freedom of information is taking foooor everrrrrrr in responding back on the NASA Judy inquiry. In the meantime I did see some info about her on another vampire site:

coven.thedarkheaven.com...

That might be the problem with the NASA investigation, They should do it at night and before the sun comes up.

Haven't seen any UFO's landing or taking off from the back of the Sphinx on the news or mentioned in forums or blogs. Maybe they are at the sold out seminars the author is giving. Don't know, its been too quite lately. Could be they are all deciphering a new message. I have a feeling tomorrow will be productive in one way or another.

One thing that caught my eye... (I thought BIAD had no eyes?!!)...
was something that I saw today on Wayne's IReport.
As everyone knows here, when a hoax is revealed and the fallout
takes place, the faction that wishes to continue to benefit
will monitor the negative comments and hopefully out-race them.
The opposing group, who see it has a hoax and attempt to show
how elaborate the plan was to fool others, do likewise and so
here we are... all cuddled up together and watching for the intruder.

So... dcmb1490 wrote back on page 111, on the 10th August:
...In reference to your crackpot author, he's no doubt one of the
many conspiracy theorists who also believe that aliens built the
pyramids for the Egyptians, or some other such nonsense.
However, if you're trying to use this specific papyrus to refute
his argument, I would caution you --- the sphinx in this papyrus
is not likely *the* Sphinx of Giza. Rather, the Egyptians were
probably using the sphinx form in a metaphorical sense...

And thank you dc for that.
Wayne writes on 17th August... three hours ago, by the clock on the left...
From Wayne Herschel's IReport:
...The Sphinx in the papyrus depiction here IS "the" Sphinx, the one
beneath the firmament of stars and it has a dream stele and once a
statue in front of it so it is labelled correctly as so...

See...? dcmb 1490's response from a university professor in Egyptology
and was shown here on ATS... not on IReport, yet Wayne responds to
it on his IReport.

Then off he goes asking the questions and asnwering them, so that it's
seen that he was correct all along.
Classic stuff:
...One must also consider the sceptics here trying to oppose this
news release hypothesis...
...One must wonder why? this subject proves all races of humans are
all equal and sacred.. it proves also we are not alone...

And this one I'll keep as my favourite. It's a 'semi'-rant!

...continue to shoot any unidentified anomaly in the sky as a threat.
Why? Because the first thing any star visitor would reveal is the
deception of our destructive greedy power hungry leaders and
what they have done over the ages to prevent the truth of the
gift of life...

And finally, just to show that the Romans or nay-sayers are really
banging those nails in hard, he says sagely:
...All the reasoning is present here and no obvious counter claims
are forthcoming for this papyrus.
The reason is that there simply is no sound counter claim.
It is easier to mock the author in the hope that people will not
believe it...

So that's what we're doing, heh? Maybe we should stop asking for
scientific and documented evidence and just... believe it.
He's correct in one regard, no serious researcher/writer/scientist/
butcher/baker/candlesti... will counter his claims, they'll just pat him
on the head and say slowly "yeeess... Aliens built the big strange
buildings so that we wouldn't guess they'd been here."

I just noticed this one and I believe it explains everything.
The 'scholar' if real (funny how the name was removed)....



[edit on 17-8-2010 by A boy in a dress]

So he regularly trawls this site and in fact, comes to
this particular thread.
My parting shot on the post above seems to have caught his eye:
I was hoping you could produce something worth debating
but it is still better than your earlier attacks on my character.

By the way, if you paid a little attention... little green men
didnt build the pyramids like you insist I believe... the builders
were our human ancestors.

I stand corrected and apologise -Mr. Herschel for writing that
and well done on picking up on it so quickly!! (see above posting)

[edit on 17-8-2010 by A boy in a dress]