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Originally posted by LeaderOfProgress
But we as true American citizens must carry an ID on us or else we can be arrested on the spot and detained until proper identification can be procured. So why should this be shot down?
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Good for Obama...he should speak out against UNCONSTITUTIONAL laws.
I just find it hilarious that when a law is directly unconstitutional...no one cares...because it targets minorities. But you will abandon logic, create false information, and cry and scream about the healthcare bill. People are crazy and illogical.
Bottom line...Arizona will go bankrupt over this law...and they deserve it.
That means that the burden of proof is on the individual.
so how can a State law over-rule that
Everyone in the US, except the Native American Indians, is an immigrant
and Fed laws always over-ride state laws.
What part of this is unconstitutional?
I would think any citizen of the US, natural born or otherwise would agree with the measures being taken in order to ensure that laws are being followed.
How is enforcing preexisting laws unconstitutional?
They are called illegals for a reason. If you reply to this I would like you to tell me why you think they are called illegals.
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
reply to post by Rockpuck
If that's the case then I actually have no problem with this law. It always has been an offense to enter the country illegally and the police should absolutely be able to enforce that law.
But AMERICAN CITIZENS are going to be subjected to this law as well.
The Fourth Amendment protects against unreasonable searches, but not every government action to obtain information is a "search." A search occurs only when 1) a person expects privacy in the thing searched and 2) society believes that expectation is reasonable.
14 C. IT IS UNLAWFUL FOR A PERSON WHO IS UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED 15 STATES AND WHO IS AN UNAUTHORIZED ALIEN TO KNOWINGLY APPLY FOR WORK, SOLICIT 16 WORK IN A PUBLIC PLACE OR PERFORM WORK AS AN EMPLOYEE OR INDEPENDENT 17 CONTRACTOR IN THIS STATE.
3 23-212.01. Intentionally employing unauthorized aliens; 4 prohibition; false and frivolous complaints; 5 violation; classification; license suspension and 6 revocation; affirmative defense
To say cops can't enforce Federal laws is stupid. Nothing short of it. This isn't the only Federal law being enforced.. many, like drug enforcement, are centered around Federal laws. So is the Drinking Age law. Along with many other Felonies.
Ask any cop .. it's easy to determine who is and is not here legally.
Whenever an American is caught in the system, they will eventually be compensated with a nice civil rights lawsuit.
Maybe if their fellows were not invading this country, the Hispanic population wouldn't be targeted.
Go home and come back the legal way, i'd greet them with open arms.