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Originally posted by earthtone
I think it can be said for both. I mean what is the real issue here? Why do people refuse to accept the minority always , in every case in society? For those of you who can't accept or tolerate why not look back and see why you may not be accepting towards this certain group of people. There has to be a reason right ?
By KJ
What about it? So what if they do, it's their child after all. Even if it is wrong (which in some cases it is and some it's not), what can you possibly do about it?
The point is, is you can do nothing, as parents should be the most powerful influence in their childs lives. I can bet that if that was true now like it was more 30 or 40+ years ago, most would NOT teach that a certain group is "inferior".
Saying people are wrong does not mean they are inferior. Judging ones actions is not judgement against a person.
Neither are wrong in any way and I find that to be more important to teach children.
Otherwise, they will be ignorantly following the complete tolerance ideals much like they would the intolerance ideals.
Being blindly accepting would create people who could not recognize true evil.
Originally posted by CazMedia
Earthtone says,
Originally posted by KrazyJethro
Being blindly accepting would create people who could not recognize true evil.
Originally posted by KrazyJethro
Sigh
Those things are wrong TO YOU. Too bad you don't respond to all of my remarks.
Originally posted by earthtone
Ok Jethro. Why are these things wrong and to you and what do you view as the solution to this 'problem'?
[edit on 6/7/2004 by earthtone]
Originally posted by CazMedia
Intrepid asks ok KJ,
you have to accept our alternate gay lifestyle or your bad".....
then you must also accept another minority asking you to respect their rights to teach that "gays are bad, non english speakers are bad, other races are bad." Tolorance is tolorance.
Intrepid says, "It's this type of ignorance that keeps us from getting along."
Earthtone, Why the confusion? At no point in your life have you "judge" people? Youve NEVER determined that one person was a waste of flesh in comparrison to another person? GET REAL!
NO, i dont hate them because of the differances between our cultures...in fact I pity them....IT'S OK THAT I HATE THEM!!!
Earthtone says, "When can people learn not to hate and fear?"
Why is this nessisary, and is it even possible?
isnt murder murder reguardless of why i did it?
While I agree that hate is not as productive of an emotion, it serves its purpose.
Survival of the fittest has made the "fight or flight" mechanism in most animals....fear and "mistrusting" things that are different than you or the "normal" environment that an organism lives in, are natural mechanisms to help keep a lifeform from becomming dead
People have been killed for reasons of "love" as well as because someone hated the victim.
How would/do you know these things are wrong? Because you grew up in a culture that had clearly defined boundaries about these behaiviors!!! OMG...you were indoctrinated by the culture you live in,
"harm"
Originally posted by earthtone
The moral question you ask is very easy for me to answer because I see acres and acres of moral distance between a gay person and a murderer or child abuser. Society sets out in laws essentially that we can do alot, but just don't harm or damage anyone else or their property. I don't really see your point.
Originally posted by CazMedia
Earthtone,
And youve managed to at least be mostly reasonable and logical in your defense arguments.
"wouldn't you say it would be more beneficial to society to (accept gay adgenda)?"
GAYS ARE INTOLORANT!!!
the majority is then labled "haters, biggots, ignorant" ect...
inflicting the majority
Getting married is noones right
an overall democratic culture,
yes i hate
Hate can be constructive No one HAS to accept/tolorate anything....and im tired of those that say we must
Remeber, ONE aspect of why fundamentalist radical jihadist muslims call the USA the great satan, is because they dont tolorate homosexuality, Hmm id rather hurt your feelings then be dead
Originally posted by earthtone
Gay rights have come leaps and bounds in a certain sense, however not alot has changed in terms of social equality, partly becuase of religion, partly becuase of discrimination, partly because of pure fear. This is not equality the way I see it.
what I am saying is that obviously, regardless of how I feel, in this 'accepting society' that I dream of everyone has to be entitled to have their own personal views so long as they do not incite hatred.
I also say that anyone has the right to make there union with another human being an official union.
Kids are smart ! , but I think it is up to a parent to explain these relationships to their children . We as adults in a modern world can or should be able to accept same sex relationships . I think it takes some easing into for children ,like my 5 year old nephew who has 2 moms, when they are surrounded by classmates who have a mom and a dad . If the adult poulation isn't mature enough to accept these relationships as you say , then some temperment and guidance are needed to explain these things to children of same sex partners . It is a parents responsibility , not the networks .
Originally posted by specialasianX
Yeah i was happy with the ABC when i heard about this. Its about time we started showing the kids same-sex couples are not strange, coz obviously the adult population of the world isnt mature enough to accept that times change. Good work ABC