Am I just seeing things?

More non-sense. The vast majority (unlike the around 50/50 in the REAL America based on polster wording) ATS was always vastly anti-HCR. I believe this helps to reinforce the size of the anti-group in the minds of those with that pre-existing mindset.

Furthermore, I see it as FAR more likely that paid trolls would constitute the anti-HCR side. It is in the health insurance-pharma-dme industrial complex's monetary interest to push opinion.

Best,
Skunknuts

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Exactly, just click 'healthcare bill' on the search engines and see the flood of anti-bill threads and posters. Its unbelievable just how many people smeared and spoke down on the bill and I'd bet my bottom dollar subjective here could not find a 'pro-HRC bill' thread that drowned out opposition, quiet the opposite if you actually did the search.

Originally posted by skunknuts
More non-sense. The vast majority (unlike the around 50/50 in the REAL America based on polster wording) ATS was always vastly anti-HCR. I believe this helps to reinforce the size of the anti-group in the minds of those with that pre-existing mindset.

Furthermore, I see it as FAR more likely that paid trolls would constitute the anti-HCR side. It is in the health insurance-pharma-dme industrial complex's monetary interest to push opinion.

Best,
Skunknuts

Listen I post in these threads everyday and I have seen it with my own eyes. New poster who just landed on ATS that day speaking the virtues of socialised health care.


And it seem to me that you have let your personal truth blind you. Like I said to the other poster you pro-heath care progressive crowd change your morals like you do your underwear. And even the simplest of truth are clouded by your agenda.


And just to clarify you do realise the so called complex is in on it. Why do you think they did not put a huge fight at the end? Follow the money it will lead you to the truth and don't let your hate blind you to that fact.

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I think you are missing the point here it is not about the opposition it is about the pro-health care side.


It was much much vigorous about two weeks ago and now it has died off. I believe they had a army of idiots spewing talking points on every forum including this one.


To all of you the post in the heath care threads think back and remember how many new faces you saw in the lead up to the vote. And also remember how they would post talking points and then never back them up with return comments. I remember.

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Oh I did notice trolls and disinfo people here over the healthcare reform. Rush and Glenn Beck churn them out all day and they find their way here.

Ridiculous. The idea of this post is from Upside-Down Land because there was always far more blowhards against healthcare reform than for (at least that was their stated stance, their real motivations, imo, were more dubious, and more obvious).

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And the anti-healthcare people were full of originality and deep thought? 'Course not. You guys had nothing but red-baiting, every post, like clockwork.

The trick is, when the facts are facts, they're not going to change. So you're going to see them repeated a lot to counter lies like the whole "death panel" crap.

NO you aren't just seeing things

See this thread for numerous examples.

Here's a MSM example

Originally posted by Hadrian
Ridiculous. The idea of this post is from Upside-Down Land because there was always far more blowhards against healthcare reform than for (at least that was there stated stance, their real motivations, imo, were more dubious, and more obvious).

Like I Have said before it is not about the anti-health care crowd this is about the pro-health care crowd.

You are right we did argue alot and we still are were did the other side go. I see a few of you still here but like 100 have packed it up and I believe are gearing up for the next fight.


I think we just witnessed a direct propaganda push with a very aimed target the Internet.


Could I be wrong yes it would not be the first time but something just doesn't seem right. Were did all the new guys go?


I will tell you all what the next time a huge issue comes up on the board and it involves weeks of debate I bet we see many new faces that will come in and play the part and then vanish into the hole they came from.

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Examples would be nice.

All the old threads are there...and all the old posts are there. Go and show us which you are talking about so we can all see.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
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Examples would be nice.

All the old threads are there...and all the old posts are there. Go and show us which you are talking about so we can all see.

There is another thread running right now posted by a super mod. And it ties into this one perfectly. I have asked if they would post in my thread and provide a link to it for all to see but you can search it out on your own.

It is about how a Obama staffer wants to infiltrate sights like ATS. Sometimes when there is smoke.............

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
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Examples would be nice.

All the old threads are there...and all the old posts are there. Go and show us which you are talking about so we can all see.

Here's 2 examples-
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...




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LOL...ok...those are both mine...and I was here before the HCR debates and I am still here. So that isn't a great example of what the OP is suggesting.

Show me a user who registered during the HCR debates, only posted to HCR threads, and now that user is inactive.

It isn't hard if the OP has seen this multiple times...just post examples.

Originally posted by Signals

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by Subjective Truth

 

Examples would be nice.

All the old threads are there...and all the old posts are there. Go and show us which you are talking about so we can all see.

Here's 2 examples-
www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

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Thank you for you post. I like it when links tie into it and give the most information possible. I appreciate it.

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I'm not asking about the other thread...let's stay on topic. I want to see the examples of multiple users you have seen that only came here to support HCR from a script and are now gone.


There is a reason I am no longer posting about why the HCR bill should pass...and that is because it has passed...the debate is over from my point of view.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by Signals

 

LOL...ok...those are both mine...and I was here before the HCR debates and I am still here. So that isn't a great example of what the OP is suggesting.

Show me a user who registered during the HCR debates, only posted to HCR threads, and now that user is inactive.

It isn't hard if the OP has seen this multiple times...just post examples.

Did you read my entire opening post? I said how I have alot of respect for the posters who remain. This is not about you it is about the posters who came and went and the only thing they were here fro was to sway opinion.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
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I'm not asking about the other thread...let's stay on topic. I want to see the examples of multiple users you have seen that only came here to support HCR from a script and are now gone.


There is a reason I am no longer posting about why the HCR bill should pass...and that is because it has passed...the debate is over from my point of view.

That's not true you are a liar I just looked in you posts and you are still posting stop spreading dis-information. And take your lies somewhere else. What did you think no one would look to see if you are still posting. Nice try.


And I am stating a opinion I have before and after posted in the threads and I see a big differance. It is like half of you packed up and headed for the hills.

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S.T. (or any member) can't get into singling out particular members or posts...it's against T & C...and you know this. We wouldn't want to get him into trouble would we

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And that's all it is, is an opinion. You have provided no proof, you have demanded silence on the arguments you use being applied to your own side, and have, in general, acted pretty silly.

Feel free to have your opinion; Just don't expect others to take it as fact.

Originally posted by Signals
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S.T. (or any member) can't get into singling out particular members or posts...it's against T & C...and you know this. We wouldn't want to get him into trouble would we

I was told this early on in the thread and I thank you for letting me know. Like I have said it is personal opinion.