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The key to doing this sort of genetic genealogy lies in the way the sex chromosome is inherited. The X chromosome involves some shuffling within the past one or two generations. But the Y chromosome is never shuffled – it is always passed from the father to the son intact. So the DNA code on the son’s Y chromosome should be identical to the father’s, and every male should have the identical Y chromosome to Adam. In that case we could do DNA testing and determine that we are all descendants of Adam. Although this might help us weed out the extra-terrestrial aliens among us, it would be of little help in constructing our family trees.
Originally posted by LiveForever8
reply to post by AnthraAndromda
It seems to me that you are sending off for these tests (which don't seem very detailed to me) in the hope that one of them might just throw up an anomalous result. God only knows how many you have done.
The last one did nothing other than prove you were human and this one seems to have just thrown up a result that doesn't actually seem that special or rare.
Your mind however is made up on the subject it seems so anything I or DNA results say isn't going to sway your decisions.
I would advise you to stop looking for what the results don't say and start looking at what they do say
Originally posted by Bluebelle
I missed you! I wish I could hug you.. I'll settle for cuddling my laptop instead.
No known haplogroup.. nice. However a quick google search has thrown up quite a few other individuals who have the same issue, yet none of these people seem to give any indication of believing they arent human. I wonder why that is?
Im quite puzzled by the fact that you admitted yourself in the last thread that the test you had chosen was probably not the appropriate one with regards to solving your 'issue', yet you've gone and done the same test again, except with your paternal genes being analysed.
You've said previously that you arent the richest guy in the world, so why throw your money away on such a pointless test.
And as for wanting advice from someone who is familiar with this sort of stuff.. I would assume that you'd have chance to question the company that has performed your DNA analysis, so why wouldnt you ask them?
The company that did this most recent testing tried to place me in the "R1b" haplogroup
In human genetics, Haplogroup R1b is the most frequently occurring Y-chromosome haplogroup in Western Europe and amongst speakers of Chadic languages in northern parts of sub-Saharan Central Africa. R1b is also present at lower frequencies throughout Eastern Europe, Western Asia, Central Asia, and parts of North Africa.
R1b is a branch of the MNOPS "macro-haplogroup," which is one of the predominant groupings of all human male lines outside of Africa, and this whole group, along indeed with all of macro-haplogroup F, is believed to have originated in Asia.
I especially recommend deep SNP testing if you are Haplogroup R1b because this is the most common haplogroup in Europe and has many subclades.
R1b* (that is R1b with no subsequent distinguishing SNP mutations) is extremely rare.
An individual's test results have little meaning on their own. You cannot take these numbers, plug them into some formula and find out who your ancestors are.
…the Y-Chromosome is passed from father to son. The vast majority of the time the father passes an exact copy of his Y-Chromosome to his son…However on rare occasion there is a mutation or change in one of the markers. The change is either an insertion or a deletion. An insertion is when an additional repeat is added to a marker. A deletion is when one of the repeats is deleted.
The mechanism of mutation is not different for Y-chromosome microdeletion. However, the ability to repair it differs from other chromosomes. The human Y chromosome is passed directly from father to son, and is not protected against accumulating copying errors, whereas other chromosomes are error corrected by recombining genetic information from mother and father. This may leave natural selection as the primary repair mechanism for the Y chromosome.
The problem that remains is that I don't feel that we have enough data for a solid conclusion. Perhaps someone that is a bit more familiar with Biology can help clear this up.
To me, they seem to indicate an increasing probability that I am not human, but an, indeed, an ET.
Originally posted by Beamish
reply to post by AnthraAndromda
Isn’t there a difference between the company you employed to test your DNA “trying” to place you in a Hg, and having the professional experience in knowing where it should go?
I am no expert in this field – and neither are you by admission – but I did a little research, just out of curiosity.
So it can be postulated, even with such pedestrian research, that there is an alternative explanation for your DNA results. As I said previously, no one on this thread (as of yet) is an expert in this field.
No data? It appears that there is plenty of data to be working with. The only problem seems to be an acceptance of their findings on your part.
And if and when an expert supplies you with conclusive data as to your Human origins, would you accept that?
Originally posted by exo.psych
Please forgive me for not having read part 1 of this thread series. But why, apart from these tests, do you have reason to believe you are an alien to this world?
I would also be interested in the normal things...do advanced aliens (lets go with the pleadian concept beings) still hunt, fish, go to night clubs, have sex, play video games, listen to music and what type, etc...general social aspects.
And what the hell is the true significance of gold anyhow...its a bloody rock..why is gold so damned valueable yet soo incredibly useless. Almost every other raw material we have serves a function, diamonds cut anything, silver can be used for a multitude of stuff, but gold itself is all but useless for anything beyond...ooh..pretty.