First off let me say, I have no idea why my post was removed. But I trust the mod's judgment.
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Although I see no reason to believe this chap or anyone else proclaiming themselves as a ET, I see no reason to not take advantage of interesting
Ah...you find one of your peers "possibly" (I say possibly because, hey he may be an alien, right?) being mentally ill or confused in life, to be an
I see...I do not.
I worry about anthra and his issues with "thinking himself from space".
I also do not think he is performing a scam.
I am glad you find his story to be one that is interesting.
I think ultimately its just a suspend disbelief and listen verses kneejerk dismiss everything.
My reply here has nothing to do with kneejerking. It has to do with a human being appearnetly convinced he is an alien. I have had conversations with
He says he is "sent here to help begin the destruction of the human race".
If you see no danger in people thinking themselves the savior/destroyer of the human race...then I have to say we have totally different views.
What will purposefully spending time to dismiss someone serve you beyond...well, wasting that time in your life responding to something in
Gee...I dunno..perhaps presenting "reality" to someone "possibly" (again, possibly because, hey, he may be an alien) detached from it, I hope to
bring him closer to getting a grip on the world.
sort of pointless and you end up gaining nothing from the experience.
Pointless to you...because this is entertainment, as you stated.
For me, this is not entertainment.
Perhaps you should look into what happens to people who continue to foster and chase fictional realities. Delusional realities are very often
dangerous to those trapped inside them...they fall apart eventually, like crystalline spheres...and when they do, they almost always hurt the
individual (and sometimes those around them).
I know, I know...you are having fun being entertained...I am actually here trying to urge him to seek medical attention. Like many others who have
been following his threads.
Quick question, do you watch star trek and yell at the TV the whole time that its not real, or do you simply sit back, become entertained, perhaps
even allow for wonderment and hopeing to hear how the story advances...
The difference is...star trek characters are not known to have thousands of suicides a year, or cater towards violence on themselves or others in the
event of their "false reality" shattering or collasping.
I can not stress this enough to you....you are paralleling a TV show with a human life, and seeing "trying to reason" with this guy here, to be as
pointless as screaming at a TV.
In fact...I have to wonder if you think this guy's life is more of a "tv show" then an actually person who "may be in serious need of help".
Have you any idea how many cases like this man's, tend to end up very sad in the end?
Yeah...it is nothing like star-trek...so maybe YOU need to stop watching the TV as much. This is a human PERSON not an hour-long sci-fi show with a
promised "happy ending".
which way is more interesting to spend your time, quick dismissing or interest in storytelling?
Just to reiterate...you are here being amused by anthra...I am here urging him to seek help before the compounding weight of reality finally has a
serious effect on him or those around him.
I am so glad the media has you comparing the suffering of a real person to be the same to you as "watching a show for entertainment".
And finally...what happens on the off chance that the guy is for real to begin with but simply cant be farked to go into debt to prove to internet
skeptics he is who he is?
Have you followed this man's threads? I am not flippantly accusing him of lying...I have had many interactions with anthra on this board. His story
is not new to me.
Many of us here on ATS have systematically proven half of his information to be false, and the other half to be either stolen from other's or
contradicting to his own story.
I've done more then a few minutes research on our friend here....from his website, to his personal testominies, to speaking with people who
personally know him.
I have reasons to seriously worry about this guy...and I can not understand why my last post was considered rude.
I simply am begging this man to seek help...he shows in many of his posts signs that concern me.
Am I out of line in asking him to seek help?
I don't care if I am....frankly, trying to get him to a doctor is more important then any mod judging my post to be "bad stuff".
Anyhow...I respect ya Mask, just wondering why you actually care...
I've lost a friend to similar states of confusion. I also have worked with mentally ill people and think I am very correct in saying- "this guy
believes" what he is saying but his work/talk/website/history shows he is absolutely "mistaken" in his ideas on his space-origins.
If I am wrong...well WOW! Then we have an ET here!
If I am right...then we have a real human being, thinking himself an alien sent to make war and destruction on earth, all the while trying his hardest
to prove he really IS an alien.
There are literally thousands of studies on cases like these...it is high-school text-book sort of stuff. Check out some very "entertaining" views
from PHD holding psychologists and the current standing understanding of "delusions".
The British Journal of Psychiatry
Among the mentally ill, those with well-developed delusions are more likely to commit violent crimes against persons than those with chronic,
The American Psychiatric Association
Previous work has suggested that delusions are associated with a higher risk of violence, particularly delusions in which patients believe that
people are seeking to harm them or that outside forces are controlling their minds (denoted as "threat/control override" delusions).
I could fill pages with this sort of information. I find it shocking that you are unaware of things like this and continue to call my attempts at
"getting this man to a doctor" as being a "breach of entertainment".
the guy said he knows his proof is not up to par, but frankly, any attempt trumps the others out there to begin with,
Follow his story...listen to his details...there is much more to this sotry then what is in this thread and it shouldn't be hard to search it all out
here on ATS. He has been very forthcoming with his "evidence" and "story".
With all that said...I still don't know why my post was considered "ill mannered" but I can't argue with the mods, we all know I have a history of
saying things incorrectly.
But anthra...I still stand to say, that there is an overwhelming chance that you are suffering from delusions and that you should seek out a doctor to
talk to. Someone who can help you figure this mystery out.
Because guessing in the dark from behind your keyboard is not going to correct any problems you are having...
And who knows...maybe they can prove you right?
But seriously...you should really be looking for someone "offline" to tell this entire story to...and that someone should be a doctor.
I really do think it will help you....and I am not speaking from a stance of "not knowing cases like this in the past"...I have dealt with and
worked with many people with similar stories and/or fabricated realities.
Ok...I said my side...hope that clears things up a little and that I wasn't out of line.
[edit on 24-2-2010 by Mr Mask]