How would you solve the unemployment crisis?

How to solve the unemployment crisis.

1. Eliminate income tax for all individuals making 50 thousand dollars or less.

2. Start income taxation from 50 thousand dollars instead of zero for all persons making 51 thousand to 250,000 dollars.

3. Reduce taxes for all businesses making products within the US that employ 75% of their workers in the US.

4. Reduce the capital gains tax

5. Prohibit illegal aliens from working jobs that belong to Americans.


On the national side:

1. Allow for energy independence by drilling for our own oil and gas in our territories.

2. Stop excessive government spending.

3. Invest in revitalizing our infrastructure, roads, bridges, power-lines etc.


I could go on but these are some.....

Originally posted by 5 oClock

Originally posted by Hedera Helix

Originally posted by 5 oClock
Here's my solution:

1-ILLEGAL aliens out. (Come through the front door and be welcomed.)

2- Welfare recipients (not unemployed) will work for the city, state that they collect from, doing odd jobs. ie: picking up trash, cleaning up neighborhoods, weed whacking.....whatever would lesson the burden on taxes and the people.

3- Prisoners will pay for room & board or create something useful (license plates, city signs.....) to lesson the burden on taxes and the people.

4- All politicians will abide by any law they pass. (They are part of the people not above the people) ie: health care. and also term limits for all political offices.

5- End the Fed. give the power back to states, and the printing presses to the Treasury.

6- No tax payer bail-out for anyone for any reason.

I can go on but i'm gettin sick.

FEMA already has a plan.

[edit on 6/2/2010 by Hedera Helix]

Hedera,

Care to explain how you get FEMA camps out of anything I wrote in that post??? Considering your new 2-5-2010 I'll just eave it alone.

[edit on 6-2-2010 by 5 oClock]

Dear 5 o'clock shadow,

I guess FEMA's got a better imagination when it comes to solving the unemployment problem than you do.

Originally posted by Hedera Helix

[edit on 6-2-2010 by 5 oClock]

Dear 5 o'clock shadow,

I guess FEMA's got a better imagination when it comes to solving the unemployment problem than you do.

H.
Thanks for contributing and showing all of ATS your level of mentality.
I'll be ignoring any comments from you from now on.
I'm sure you'll be an ass et to this community.

[edit on 6-2-2010 by 5 oClock]

[edit on 6-2-2010 by 5 oClock]

Gread thread and something to think about for sure,

There are many ways of looking at this problem, but I assure you its not just an american problem per say. All the wealthy countries are losing jobs to 2nd and 3rd world countries because they provide cheap labor.

Cheap labor is the A-Z in corporate economics. If I can substantially cut down on my labor costs, that means I can sell merchandise at a significant discount and still make a big profit. It makes zero economic sense from a capitalist perspective to make stuff in america or europe when you can make it in mexico, asia or south america. 101 College Economics!

That is where government is supposed to step in and slowely increase tariffs on that merchandise to a point that american/european produced merchandise would be able to compete. Its called PROTECTIONISM! The idea is not to stop imports or discourage people from buying foreign products but to allow the local economy a chance to sustain itself. If people can buy a 17-inch malaysian tv for $100 why should they spend $150 for an american?

All governments KNOW what the problem is and what the solution is. They don't need us to tell them, that I can assure you! They allow this lopsided economic state-of-affairs because it is in the best interest of the huge multi-national firms that PAYS for governemnt salaries. Remember they FINANCE government through corporate donations and relly very little on public financing.

Protectionism via tariffs is the answer but will never happen. Another solution is to stop illegal immigration but believe it or not, it is a much smaller conspiracy. It primarily helps small and medium size business compete in an already choking market. By hiring foreign nationals they don't have to abide by minimum wage standards, no ss, no workers comp, no disability..etc!

A lot of people are missing the big picture and that is sad. Politicians know the truth, but more importantly know that people are ignorant when it comes to economics and thus take full advantage of their ignorance. They don't work for the people, they work for themselves and BIG BUSINESS!

We need a new paradigm. One where decisions are based on social good instead of relative cost. Highways, high speed rails, alternative energy, schools, and just about anything that can be upgraded. Keep building and improving until the private sector can provide full employment.

Print the money to do this instead of borrowing it. As long as the money is used to build tangible assets to society it will not be inflationary. While we are at it we should end all taxes and just let the goverment print money to fund their operations. To fight inflation you cut unbeneficial government.

We simply have to stop looking at things the way we currently do because it is all ass backwards.

reply to post by SaturnFX


I would tax the shi$ out of any company shipping their labor force off American soil.

Read my location.

America is owned lock stock and barrel by the large corporations.

For the large corporations and by the large corporations.

Anyone thinking, "For the people by the people" is living in lala land.

We need a new paradigm. One where decisions are based on social good instead of relative cost.

sligtlyskeptical Is right, we need to care more about each other than "profit".

United we stand, divided we fall.

Fromabove I also starred, he/she has my vote. Excellent ideas!

[edit on 6-2-2010 by ofhumandescent]

You want out of the box, well this may be way too out of the box for you. After practically taxing us to death, the government owes us something.

Just a warning, this is extremely radical.

The problem we face is actually what unemployment creates, which is the lack of money for food and shelter.

First we get rid of welfare and social security as we know it. We replace it with a system that would pay everyone who is 20 years or older and not in school $2,000 a month if they earn under $50,000 a year. That should let everyone be able to buy or rent a house, pay for utilities, and buy food. At least on the low end.

People who can't work or get hired will be spending the money they will be given one way or another, and putting it back into the economy. Spending money always helps the economy, right? The money will also help the housing market get back up on its feet, since people should be able to afford some sort of housing.

After that, anyone who wants more has to work for it. With most of the necessities already taken care of, any money earned above and beyond that can help someone get into business and hire employees if they want to.
The money going back into the economy should help put life back into the economy, and thus create more job opportunities. People will be buying more, and thus raising the demand for more things to be produced, or services provided.

The $2000 a month from the government would eliminate the EIC, which gives back the largest tax return to families. They already got their tax return plus some. The $2000 a month would be tax free, but the government will eventually be getting it back through all their other taxes anyhow.

I would like to see free health care with the elimination of health insurance. The government pays for the hospitals, offices, and all medical supplies. Where the doctors are being paid well with a minimum of $75,000 a year for a family practitioner. Their houses paid for, and a free vacation every year. In return they have to work x amount of hours a year, especially where it is needed. The doctors, not the government, decides the best way to treat the patient. That is truly wishful thinking. People would rather see their favorite sports players receive multi-millions of dollars a year just so they can get entertained.

I would like to see the large war machine to be reigned in along with the pork barrel spending. I would like to see the pharmaceutical companies, wall street, and darn lawyers with their frivolous law suites reigned in also.


As I said it is extremely radical. I don't know if we took all the money that goes into welfare, social security, and EIC if it would be enough to pay for what is being proposed. Maybe they could if they added in all the pork barrel spending. Health care would be another issue entirely. I would think the cost of health care would eventually go down with everyone being able to get issues taken care of before they become bad.


I bet if the government really wanted to, they could make this plan work. They made the federal reserve and stock market work. We buy and sell things with basically funny money now as it is. I imagine if the federal reserve really wanted to wipe out over half of the debt that is in their books now, they could do so. They don't allow anyone to take a look at what they are doing anyhow.

Then again it is not about us and how they can make our lives better. It is more about how much power and control they can inflict on us. They would be happy to give us the money if they could make us volunteer our time more than 40 hours a week, so we would not have a chance to earn any more money. That doesn't help us or the economy. I'm sure certain people would not even be able to get a volunteer job let alone a regular job.

The idea will have to remain an idea. It would be twisted in even worse ways to oppress the people. That is what the government and elites is all about, isn't it?

Evryone posting here is definitely more intelligent than me. Thank you ATS for continuing to allow a mentally disabled person such as myself to express thoughts no matter how insane they are.

Here are my two cents.

1. EVERYONE (globally) must quit thier jobs for at least one month simultaneously. This would separate wheat from the chaff. There is no reason for anyone to try to tell me the possible consequenses of this as I already know them. Notice I didnt say everyone quit working, just that everyone quit thier jobs and reject the idea of monetary compensation for labour of any kind. Reciprocity. No more insurance companys, no more big Pharma, No more organized law enforcement or military. If a thing is so important for you to have done, do it your self. The land you own is the land you control. Isnt this what tptb have done anyway? Fear is what keeps us in line. Fear and dependance are what will keep people trying to come up with ideas to repair a system that isnt broken, This system runs exactly the way that its supposed to. And the people that really matter in this world dont care one bit about any of the regurgitated ideas thrown around by the brainwashed fools that comprise 99% of the worlds population who are simply scampering around trying to hold on to the illusion that anything they say or think matters.

If I have offended anyone please remember you are all smarter and more educated than me.

Originally posted by 5 oClock
Here's my solution:

2- Welfare recipients (not unemployed) will work for the city, state that they collect from, doing odd jobs. ie: picking up trash, cleaning up neighborhoods, weed whacking.....whatever would lesson the burden on taxes and the people.

not unemployed = employed

So, the employed welfare recipients work for the city. What happens to the jobs they already have? Do they get wages from the city?

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I'm crushed.

I agree about the cap on wealth. There should be a cap on anyone individual accumulating too much wealth and acquiring too much land/assets. It's crazy the amount of land Ted Turner owns. Millions of acres? Gimme a break.

Originally posted by 5 oClock
reply to post by GreenBicMan

 

Welfare:
It won't be a bail out. Right now they receive a paycheck for sittin on their arses. Watch how quick they'd get out of the system if they had to actually work for that check.

What jobs??

There are no jobs for people to get.

And when I received welfare, it was for a whooping $225/month. That's not exactly incentive for someone to be "sittin on their arses." And I had to work 30 hours a week for a welfare program in order to qualify. So I was doing that, and basically making $1.875/hour. Yeah, that really went far. There weren't jobs around back then either, and it's worse now.

If you want to find employment, stay out of KY these days. This state sucks for employment. A lot of the people I know are unemployed and been looking for work for a year or longer. Other than some temp jobs, I've been unemployed almost two years now. I worked about 3 1/2 months off and on last year at temp jobs and was jobless the other 9 1/2 months, and I'm still jobless.

reply to post by SaturnFX


Oh my goodness.

Look, prostitution is insulting to women and men both. And if you legalize it there will be so many prostitutes it will be even more insulting as prices drop to rock bottom levels. You would see millions of two bit ho's flooding the market.

Heck, there might even be some freebies just for companionship.



[edit on 7-2-2010 by Cabaret Voltaire]

1. Increase the military budget by 50%.
2. Increase NASA budget by 100%.
3. Provide business info/startup/and job location services.

Number 3, what it means:

An anthropological study of how cities develop from towns, how businesses grow to interrelate with each other over time, etc. How economic development grows naturally. How you start with a general store, a hotel, a saloon, a blacksmith shop, etc. and wind up with a city of over a million people. Look at the progressive development, study it, find out the method for growth of an economy. Then, take that information, plug in what stage a local town should be at, and add the business ideas to develop it. Often, towns move in the wrong directions. Planning commissions can regulate zoning and businesses. Use low interest loans for development initially, until the thing takes off on its own.

Add to this the ability of prospective employees to connect easily with the jobs being developed.

reply to post by Fromabove


Eliminating income tax on the lower class is an excellent idea. Many people would choose to stay in low paying jobs in order to avoid taxes. That is a dumb reason, but still, many would do so.

If you simultaneously eliminated welfare programs for able bodied persons, then you could coax all the slackers to work. The extra disposable income would stimulate the economy, the self-chosen jobs would occupy the people. Those who chose not to work would starve to death, or ultimately end up in prison by choice.

By doing both these things, eliminating income tax for the lower class and eliminating welfare for able bodied persons, you could keep people like nice little pets.

reply to post by sligtlyskeptical


Print money instead of borrowing it?

You're taking about slave tokens.

1. Slave does work.
2. Slave gets tokens.
3. Slave redeems tokens for slave food, slave clothing and slave shelter.

Who in their right mind would accept slave tokens for anything of value?

You are talking about making a weird future socialism program that eliminates any chance of advancement for the common people. In America, we let everybody play the game. We let everybody show and prove. Anybody can achieve. We don't want to be slaves.

reply to post by Mystery_Lady


Giving people free money would be like a child's allowance. Or a child's birthday, every day.

You want to create grown up children that don't work and just go shopping all day. What is their worth? Why allow them to live?

reply to post by Zosynspiracy


That is very shallow of you to think that you know better than Ted Turner.
Why disallow Ted's achievements?
Do you think you can do better with Ted's millions of acres? Do you know how to administer these resources better than Ted?

Don't you realize that money separates people into categories? They get to sift themselves actually.

Go ahead. Get a billion dollars for yourself and show the rest of us how it should be done. We're waiting for you paradigm shattering revelations.

reply to post by Jessicamsa


Maybe you should learn to trade stocks for profit. Apparently lots of unemployed people do so. I've heard of lots of people that make tons of money yet do nothing.

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And for each stock-made millionaire I can show you 100 lower middle class family's who won't even see retirement with their portfolio.