How would you solve the unemployment crisis?, page 1
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Topic started on 6-2-2010 @ 05:05 PM by SaturnFX
The state of the union/world is a disaster...no use bickering about how it started, who started it, or any of that...when your starving, you can either bicker about who ate the last piece of chicken or you can go hunting.

So, lets say you have been voted in as...whatever...POTUS, Prime Minister, Emperor, whatever...and you were met with what the world is at this very moment. You got to get unemployment under 4% by years end else the natives will come with torches and pitchforks...what would you do to get people back to work like..tomorrow.
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Reason why I think this is a worthy thread is that the government may actually read these wacky conspiracy sites...and who knows...there might be the odd post that isnt complete crap that they can consider if they havent thought of it yet (I imagine its hard to think outside of the box up in washington

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My thoughts...make brick and block (construction base material) absolutely free for one year with the contingency that all materials must be shown used or in use by a project (purchase it from the companys then get a rebate from the government immediately).
This would force a temporary yet highly productive time in America...everyone considering building something would lock in tomorrow verses push it off 10 years...even local and state governments would start repairing and renovating their areas...with massive construction everywhere comes massive employment, which means more toy money, more boats, more computer techs installing wires and such, etc...and once the construction projects taper off, the economy may be in such a upword boom that employment would be plentiful.

If you consider all the nonsense that we spend on trying to get things rolling, from bailouts, cash for whatevers, etc...seems this funding would be almost a drop in the bucket, but would help the small business and man on the street the moment it was enacted.


reply posted on 6-2-2010 @ 05:17 PM by GreenBicMan
reply to post by ladyx



We already do that basically, think about who pays all the taxes in this country.


reply posted on 6-2-2010 @ 05:18 PM by silent thunder
It depends what country you are in.

In the US, for example, the resources and talent exist to employ most people. If I were in absolute control of the US, I'd seal off the borders and prevent any further immigration until everyone is employed. I'd also levy huge tax fines on corporations that promote overseas outsourcing, and offer tax credits to those that employed Americans. I'd encourage manufacturing in the US, slap tarrifs on most imports, and would only condone trade for the few items that are absolutely needed. I'd stop further foregin debt to the extent possible. Since the US generally produces excess food, I'd conduct the slimited amount of international trade necessary based on agricultural exports rather than "debt export." The biggest problem would be energy. This could be solved by moving to an increasingly coal-based economy (the US has the largest proven coal reserves in the world) and encouraging alternative forms of energy as well as reduction of waste (there is plenty of room for that). I would also work to promte less materialistic/hedonistic values via the media and to promote savings, domestic production, respect for a Stoic/Spartan ethic, long-term thinking, saving, etc.

This plan would not be perfect -- its easy to poke holes in any plan -- but something along these lines would be better than the current system.

If I were in charge of a resource-poor, talent-poor nation like Somalia or Kyrgizistan, obviously different strategies would be called for. Even a wealthy, talented, but resource-poor, import-dependent nation like Japan could not afford to seal itself off completely.

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reply posted on 6-2-2010 @ 05:19 PM by GreenBicMan
reply to post by silent thunder



By doing this you would make the stockmarket drop and wipe out everything you were trying to create.

Good intentions, but end result would be bad if we made those regulations IMO. I dont mind the border sealing though, for maybe a decade or something.



reply posted on 6-2-2010 @ 05:22 PM by GreenBicMan
reply to post by 5 oClock



You are bailing out welfare people totally, how can you say that and say no bailouts of any kind?


reply posted on 6-2-2010 @ 05:22 PM by silent thunder
reply to post by GreenBicMan



Yes, its not perfect. The stock market and currency would suffer mightily. As an investor, I myself would be personally hurt. But I think in the long run it would be the best direction to head in for the nation. Like I said, it wouldn't be easy and it wouldn't be perfect. But the way I see it, its like take a bottle away from an alcoholic. Sure its not fun and its going to feel like hell for a long time, and maybe even create health problems as he withdraws. But it won't create as many problems as letting him drink for another five or ten years would.


reply posted on 6-2-2010 @ 05:24 PM by GreenBicMan
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ughh.. i mean you could short the market when you do this then make bank but peoples 401k will be totally wiped and that sounds like last year an awful lot.

dollar would probably take off though and we could dine in Europe and Barbados for cheap! lol


reply posted on 6-2-2010 @ 05:33 PM by 5 oClock
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Welfare:
It won't be a bail out. Right now they receive a paycheck for sittin on their arses. Watch how quick they'd get out of the system if they had to actually work for that check.
GBMan is that you in your avatar? U look just like my brother. What's up bro?


reply posted on 6-2-2010 @ 05:37 PM by GreenBicMan
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What up? I dont have a brother, but you can be mine from another mother.

What I meant though is you are bailing them out (with tax dollars obviously) and you said you want no bailout. That to me is a bailout. What happens when we fire all these bums? Actually probably pretty good for the economy because they will just spend it immediately anyways. Actually might be a good thing.


reply posted on 6-2-2010 @ 05:45 PM by Absum!
reply to post by SaturnFX



I would withdraw the US military from all international “Police” missions worldwide.

I would reduce the military spending by 500 billion dollars (about ½ of the white budget).

Place all military personnel into mode of rebuilding and developing interested 3rd world states infrastructure.

Participating states would be required to buy manufactured goods from the US.

Refund $10,000 dollars to all citizens making less than $100,000 per year income.

I would increase the education budget from its current rate of $63.7 billion to $200 billion.

I would increase the compensation for educators and make college nearly free to all citizens.

I would invest in creating a true secure boarder with our southern and northern neighbor states.

Issue new USA currency and pay off the Federal Reserve over a one-year period.

Then the following month….


Yes, it would be a shock to the system, but that is exactly what we need.



reply posted on 6-2-2010 @ 05:49 PM by Signals
I would increase the enrollment of the National Guard by 4,000% raising the number to 5,000,000 strong. This would single-handedly reduce the US unemployment numbers by 33%. This may require a draft, but that's okay with me. Many countries require military service from all able-bodied citizens.

Then, I would set up two projects to put the Guard to work:

* Border control! It's a joke and we know it! Not only the Mexico border, I'm talking all ports, all ships, all containers.

* Infrastructure rebuild. Our nation's bridges, highways, roads, ports, etc. are in horrible condition.

Where would the money come from?

A national flat sales tax on everything.

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reply posted on 6-2-2010 @ 05:51 PM by tothetenthpower
reply to post by SaturnFX



Easy Peasy SaturnFX

Legalize hemp and begin cultivating it in large ammounts and create a whole new American industry.

The jobs which would be created would be ridiculous.

Manufacturing
Farming
Oil Industry
Health Food Industry
Textile Industry

The list goes on and on.

~Keeper


reply posted on 6-2-2010 @ 05:53 PM by 5 oClock
reply to post by GreenBicMan



My brother from another mother,

The OP was asking ATS what they'd do to correct this mess. I'm no socialist but, if we cut every tax funded program there wouldn't be enough machinery to bury the dead. That would truly be sad.
The bail-outs I was referring to were to the big corp. "privatize the profit - publicize the debt" blood suckers.

Now before you go ballistic on me, I've read some of your posts in the "market watch thread" and you know a helluvalot more about financial issues than I do, but screw the market (my 401k & investments) and any co. that pulls this bull# on U.S. tax payers. Quoting Forest:
That's all I have to say about that.


reply posted on 6-2-2010 @ 05:55 PM by GreenBicMan
reply to post by 5 oClock



I agree with the above about legalization of a lot of things.

I still think government intervention into equity markets would be the best route, we need the stock market for wealth creation and too tied into it now to quit it.
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