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reply posted on 7-2-2010 @ 04:08 AM by Cabaret Voltaire
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And for each stock-made millionaire I can show you 100 lower middle class family's who won't even see retirement with their portfolio.


Winners and losers, my friend. Winners and losers.

Watch some videos of cheetahs running down gazelles. It is a real thing of beauty. Very inspirational. All natural, too.



reply posted on 7-2-2010 @ 04:21 AM by SmokeandShadow
Originally posted by Cabaret Voltaire
Originally posted by SmokeandShadow
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And for each stock-made millionaire I can show you 100 lower middle class family's who won't even see retirement with their portfolio.


Winners and losers, my friend. Winners and losers.

Watch some videos of cheetahs running down gazelles. It is a real thing of beauty. Very inspirational. All natural, too.



I like nature. Some would say lucky or unlucky though. An investor, on the other hand, I would call a winner, simply for the sheer amount of education and determination a sophisticated investor must have.


reply posted on 7-2-2010 @ 05:07 AM by hans kammler
I would not have bailed out the banks directly and heres why!

the american bailout was $12.1 trillion comitted, but $2.5 trillion ACTUALLY spent, so ill go with the money used.

now i was going to divide by popualtion, 300 million. but, that wouldnt be fair, as newborns, toddlers, etc and people with dozens of kids would benefit a hell of a lot more.

so to be fair, ill divide by taxpayers which is 140 million.
2.5 trillion divided by 140 million = $18,116.

so there you go, 18 grand to every taxpayer, and it has to be deposited into your BANK ACCOUNT, so defacto bailout of the bank, with your money, in your hands!

and i guess that would boost the economy because you can go out buy a car, support local economy and keep local jobs, pay off a chunk of your mortgage etc etc.

Also you have minimum wage, like us here in u.k. yet i think we should have a MAXIMUM wage also. wages have gotten so large and obscene that they have become socially detrimental. heres my thinking...

Barclays bank boss bob diamond, is paid £27 million pounds in one year, and a lot of bankers are paid similarly large amounts. considering they are doing a terrible job, its annoying yet the because of the high wages paid in the PRIVATE sector the PUBLIC sector then has to accelerate its wages to keep up with them.


Research by the TaxPayers' Alliance shows the number of local authority chief executives earning more than £100,000 a year has risen by 27% since last year

FIVE senior figures at the Nuclear Decommissioning Authority are among those highlighted in a “Public Sector Rich List” which showed they were paid more than Prime Minister Gordon Brown.

The list shows that 806 executives working in 350 public bodies, including Whitehall departments and nationalised industries, collected more than £150,000 during the 12 month financial period. And at least 350 executives in hospitals and primary care trusts were paid more than £150,000, nearly 80 of them exceeding the PM’s salary.

and it gets worse, while the average joe pays higher taxes, takes pay cuts to keep his job, and infation eats at the rest of what you earn, all this is going, with private AND public sector now fuelled by your INCREASING taxes.how can it be justified socially?
if the prime minister is the leader of the country, why are local council bosses, hoswpital managers, or bankers being paid more than the big bosss himself!
so id have a maximum wage set out out at no more than the pm gets!


reply posted on 7-2-2010 @ 06:56 AM by whattheh
The Small Business Administration used to loan funds directly to small businesses for start up catpital and expansion.

Then they changed it to only guarantee the funds and let the banks make all the profits by loaning the money.

The problem with this is that we have to rely on the banks to loan the money. Good luck with that.

If we issued funds directly to the Small Business Administration to issue start up loans and expansion capital we would create jobs with a loan that will be paid back. This profit from the loans can be reloaned to mroe busineses and it will snowball.

How many people do you know that would start a business if you gave them the money? A lot!!!

Re-nstate the Glass/Stiegel act and uptick rule that caused all of this in the first place.

Outlaw the Bernanke Doctrine.

Obama's big plan is to spend money on weatherization? This is a short term spending plan that will put those people back in layoff when the money is gone and back sucking money from the unemployment funds.

We need permanent jobs not temporary prop ups.

Second, the Stock market was supposed to allow you to invest in a company and collect DIVIDENDS. not flip the stock the next day. That is not an investment that is a casino. Betting on if a stock price will go up or down.

If you buy a stock you need to hold onto it for at least 1 year or until the dividends are paid. That is an investment. Day traders gone.

Cmmodities: If you purchase a commodity you must take possession of it. Not buy and sell something that is in a wharehouse somewhere never getting sold to the public.

Speculators, gone. betting on the rise or fall of anything's value is a casino. This must stop. You either invest in a company, not a stock to resell the next day, or buy a comodity (take possesion of it before reselling it).

These items alone would improve our economy drastically.

And last but not least tranfer full control of the federal reserve to the Treasury. Not CEOs who get appointed to the board and do what is best for their company.

I forgot one: Pass a law that no elected official can collect any funds from anything except the government while in office and for 4 years after they get out of office. No fake book deals and overpaid speakign engagements. They are getting paid to for for corporations not the public. Over 200 millioniares in congress. That sucks.

Ever wonder why they spend millions to get elected to a job that pays 500k a year. Becasue they are gettign paid in other ways.

Only people who really wanted to help would run for office if it was not so lucrative.

Create fedreal campaign funding. No one shoudl be able to donate to a campaign. Only government funds and everyone who qualifies gets the same amount of money to advertise and media should get tax credits to provide the airtime like a public service announcement.

I have sent this stuf to Obama many many times. But they don't read all those e-mails they get. Even if they did he works for the corporations more than any president ever. I never thought we would have a bigger corporate crook in office thasn Bush, But Obama is way way worse. "I am creating green jobs with the billions for the smart grid" What about the thousands of meter readers for the power company that will be fired. Why are we buying meters for the power companies so they can cut jobs and save payroll? Medical insurance, Drugs, and hospital stays are too expensive. Obama says lets make e everyone have to pay the insurance comapnies, gurantee the drug companies will nto have a generic competitor for 12 years, and buy computers fro the trillion dollar a year industry. All this is a pay off to those comapnies. He has increased the oil comapnies federal land leases by 400% and is planning more. I thought bush was the oil man.

Okay a little rant off but not off topic as these things also kill the economy.


reply posted on 7-2-2010 @ 08:22 AM by digigeek
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I hope you spell-checked before you sent to the President's office.


reply posted on 7-2-2010 @ 08:25 AM by digigeek
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so there you go, 18 grand to every taxpayer, and it has to be deposited into your BANK ACCOUNT, so defacto bailout of the bank, with your money, in your hands!

and i guess that would boost the economy because you can go out buy a car, support local economy and keep local jobs, pay off a chunk of your mortgage etc etc.


What? How does that help the banks? Most people would need to spend it right away on bills and late payments, etc. so it is not sitting in the bank, they'll withdraw it right away.


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reply posted on 7-2-2010 @ 09:05 AM by Yandros
Umm abolish government?



reply posted on 7-2-2010 @ 09:47 AM by Meesterjojo
Solve unemployment crisis with free building materials? What?

I'd stop all tax-breaks for anyone other than Veterans. NO MORE $10,000 tax breaks for hiring EX-CONVICTS.

Pass laws/federal guidelines for online employment application engines and companies offering these services. keyword searches are a waste of everyones time. This includes government agencies posting on the USAjobs site. As-is your resume will never be seen by a human unless you first pass through their key-word filters. Huge waste of time as it's an easy to abuse system (and one I've proven to the State).

Make it illegal to have a certain % of your labor/service outsourced.

Conduct regular and vigorous immigration checks, and heavily fine and jail any and all violators as an example.

Provide tighter auditing systems when giving Federal money to States for using in Workers Reinvestment programs. As-is most states get money (such as Texas), but it takes the states months to offer it to someone unemployed (8 months in Texas). Make state governments proactive in job searches and placement for the unemployed rather than leaving them to their own devices. Texas has no oversight, and I've personally document over a dozen auditing errors in the TWC in the past year, and have logged many hours on the phone, and many, many letters to the TWC resolving just 4 of them. Still working on it.

And this is just a start. So many problems, but free/discount building materials? What?



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reply posted on 7-2-2010 @ 09:53 AM by twocanpete
From my daily Kommunist, I mean Kos, post from which I am now banned.

This time of the year there’s a lot of talk about football with all of the college bowls being played and the NFL ramping up to the Super Bowl. There’s also been a lot of talk recently about the general decline of our economy and whether or not there is such a thing as a jobless recovery. The politicians and pundits seem more than happy to talk all the way around the real issue. They’ll talk about stimulus plans, banker bailouts, and job training. They’ll even talk about the latest Wall Street scandal or the most recent Ponzi scheme, but the one thing they never want to talk about are the rules we, as Americans, are forced to play by.
There will be a lot of football games played over the next few weekends and interestingly enough in every one of those games both teams will be required to play by the same rules. One team will not be allowed to field twice as many players as the other. There will not be a ‘no touch’ rule for one teams’ quarterback while the other is sacked at will, and one team will not be given twice as many points every time they score a touchdown. How much fun would it be to watch the Rose Bowl if the two teams played by a lopsided set of rules? That’s crazy you say, of course they play by the same set of rules, it’s only fair. Your response may seem reasonable to you but how about we have this debate on national television and in the newspaper, where upon I shout you down and call you a ‘protectionist’. Don’t you know that you are only being ‘anti competitive’ and destroying your own teams’ chances of winning by demanding ‘special treatment’? Of course my team should be allowed to play by a different set of rules.
With my argument for separate rules being applied to opposing football teams I would be rightly banned from ESPN and branded a lunatic. But the fact is the American worker has been subjected to the same defective argument with devastating economic and social consequences. American manufacturers are told they must submit to a host of environmental, worker safety, wage, and quality-control laws while their counterparts compete unshackled by the same restrictions. This is not to say that these rules do not have their place. It is common knowledge that much of the environment in China and the rest of the third world has been made unlivable by corporate and state polluters. It’s reported that half of the drinking water in China is contaminated. I think most of us are aware of the abuses and even slave-labor conditions that are necessary to produce the developing nations’ pool of ‘competitive’ labor, that many of our political and business leaders are so fond of and constantly lecturing us to be more like.
The fact is these politicians, pundits, and so-called business leaders want the American people to play by a different set of rules then the rest of the world. When we suggest that maybe we shouldn’t be expected to compete with slave labor the CEO’s making tens if not hundreds of millions of dollars are happy to explain how greedy we are for asking for a living wage. All of this nonsense about Americans not being competitive enough, or smart enough, or skilled enough, or any one of the hundred or so other condescending monikers that the corporate mouthpieces wish to attach to the American worker are just another way of saying that what they really want is a rigged game and we should all be happy playing by our different set of rules.
Happy New Year
twocanpete

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