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...disinfo - a 21-22 week old fetus is viable... ...fact - the survival rate is very low, 25% or so, and the medical intervention teeters precariously on inhumane...
Originally posted by habfan1968
Originally posted by hotbakedtater
My opinion on abortion is quite simple. So this won't be a very long response.
One, it is always a woman's choice. My body, MY CHOICE.
Two, because men cannot give birth and can never be in the position to need an abortion, the opinion of men on abortion to me(as a female) is moot.
But it does take two to tango so to speak. The male perspective is not moot. As a female, you chose the who, how and when of copulation and therefore are aware of the implications of pregnancy. Other than extreme circumstances there is no valid reason for an abortion.
Wow... so even though it's the man's child that you're pregnant with (speaking hypothetically, of course), his opinion on whether you terminate it is "moot"? That's really, really cold. I'm not saying that a man should have any legal right to tell a woman to have or not have an abortion, but his opinion as the father of said child should be taken into consideration by the mother. To act as though his wishes and opinion would mean absolutely nothing is arrogant.
Originally posted by hotbakedtater
My opinion on abortion is quite simple. So this won't be a very long response.
One, it is always a woman's choice. My body, MY CHOICE.
Two, because men cannot give birth and can never be in the position to need an abortion, the opinion of men on abortion to me(as a female) is moot.
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
If the woman wants the input of the father, then certainly, he CAN have a say, but the final decision is the woman's. I don't believe the man has, or should have, any legal claim. He made his choice to give up his "say" when he deposited his seed.
Originally posted by endisnighe
reply to post by hotbakedtater
Sorry, I think rasputin pointed out the VERY same thing I have.
If a woman can freely abort a child without the father's permission, the father should have the say NOT to be financially responsible.
It is called, EQUAL PROTECTION UNDER THE LAW!
That is a basic tenant of law.
Originally posted by endisnighe
reply to post by hotbakedtater
Sorry, I think rasputin pointed out the VERY same thing I have.
If a woman can freely abort a child without the father's permission, the father should have the say NOT to be financially responsible.
If a woman can freely abort a child without the father's permission,
Originally posted by Doctor G
On the form for Life insurance & for Health insurance besides "do you smoke" is "have you had an abortion". They don't ask if you have had a miscarriage because that is the body taking an action. They put all your answers in a table & get an answer. They can void your insurance for giving false answers.
You pay extra for insurance if you smoke or have had an abortion because those actions cause harm to the body in a calculable way. They charge a higher premium and have never been stopped by anyone for charging this higher premium. They can prove it from their tables.