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HAARP made earthquakes: Speculation or truth???

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posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 06:24 PM
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After the Norway spiral I started to get some background about the Project Blue Beam and specially about the High Frequency Active Aurora Research Program (HAARP). Everybody already knows that there's massive speculation about the real purpose behind it. Officially this program is researching the ionosphere and how it affects military, civilian communications and navigation systems, but supposedly "under the radar", the HAARP would be used as an environment control's weapon by military groups committed to NWO agenda. According to many researchers and conspiracy theorists, these groups have been using the "antenna farm'' of Alaska facility, to fire up massive EMP onto ionosphere, that after got excited just fire back these pulse discharges. Ain't none expert, nor even a scientist, but I assume that the supposed HAARP-made hurricanes, tsunamis and earthquakes, are related to the intensity of these pulses and the locality where they were fired. Everyone that knows this subject, may be concerned about the last earthquakes in 2008-09 and early 2010 and connected them with HAARP. Apparently there's no evidence that they're connected, EXCEPT, an odd aurora-like glowing light ever seen in the areas struck by quakes, few moments before they happen. The conspiracy theorists claim that the lights are the "trigger" of HAARP-quakes, but according to some geologists, this spectrum is a disturbance that happens when crystalline rocks are deformed by the slow grinding of the earth that occurs before the earthquake. These geologists allege that this spectrum is a natural warning. Then, even if HAARP isn't causing quakes, definitely its scientists know these EM disturbances, 'cos they appear in the magnetometer data. I verified the lectures in the days of 3 bad*ss quakes in 2008-09, China and Pakistan plus the last one in Haiti and everything matches.

My point is: Why the US HAARP scientists ARE NOT informing to public that a possible natural defense system against quakes, already was discovered??


Glowing lights seen in Sichuan/China, before 2008 quake





HAARP magnetometer data








However, I've been checking the global map of 2009 earthquakes and the patterns are WEIRD. If I'm saying bullsh*t, plz someone bring the light, but it seems that most of them happened in overpopulated areas...
If it was truth, we're just back to the ground zero: Is HAARP technology being used to depopulate certain areas??



Sources:

Pre-quake spectrum
HAARP magnetometer
2009 seismic global map


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posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 07:00 PM
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No.
I think HAARP Alaska teams up with HAARP Norway and
forces the Jet Stream to head south and cool the Earth.
That is why the Earth has been cooling for the last 10 years.
Click here.

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posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 07:02 PM
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The HAARP magnetometer records activity in the Earth's magnetic field which is caused by solar activity. It has nothing to do with the ionospheric heater. The activity you've noted is very minor. For example check the trace for February 28-29, 2008; big activity, no significant earthquakes.


You are going to find a lot more non-correlations than correlations. HAARP cannot create earthquakes, nor can magnetometers predict them.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 07:33 PM
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Now this is what i call computer analysis or would you call this
3D spacial visualization?




posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 07:43 PM
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It looks like they can turn the transmitters on sequentially and get
different results. Impressive.



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posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 09:20 PM
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No.

Both representations are from the same simulation. Neither shows the results of turning on the transmitters "sequentially".

The simulation shows the propagation of ELF radio waves produced in the ionosphere. The direction of propagation is determined by the Earth's magnetic field. The first shows the effects on the local vertical electric field and the second shows the horizontal magnetic field.

wwwppd.nrl.navy.mil...



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 09:39 PM
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So what do you think HAARP is doing?
I think it's moving the jet streams south and cooling the Earth.

It's also giving Al Gore a big headache.

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I found some more info here.
Stanford - HAARP info - impressive
It looks like they are "steering" the jet streams.
To a small degree i think we can control the weather.
Wiki-HAARP helps us a lot.

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posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 10:00 PM
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Scientists at the HAARP facility are studying various aspects of the ionosphere; how it is affected by solar activity and how it can affect long distance communications and satellites in orbit.

The topic is earthquakes but HAARP does not affect jet streams. It operates at heights of 50km or more, far higher than jet streams or any other form of weather. Jet streams naturally move north and south depending on where the interface between cold polar air and warm tropical air lies. They do not produce weather, they are produced by weather.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 10:09 PM
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Have you ever noticed everything is pretty stable on the weather
reports until they show a big "kink" in the jet stream and then
storm fronts break out all over the place?
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I think they did some research and experimentation for a few
years. Now i think they have moved on to actually effecting
the jet streams by steering them.
Did you read the Stanford Doc i posted?
I found it on Wikipedia.

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I know the thread is about earthquakes but he is way off
with that thought.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 10:25 PM
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Jet streams do not produce weather. The same thing that produces the bend in the jet stream produces the fronts, a low pressure system.


Did you read the Stanford article? You saw the word electrojet and you thought it had something to do with jet streams? It doesn't. There is nothing in the article about jet streams. It is about producing directional ELF/VLF radio waves in the ionosphere.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 10:39 PM
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Actually, i got the "jet stream steering" idea from another guy on a
global warming thread here on ATS.
He said HAARP controls the jet streams and that's all.
The rest of the earthquake, mind control etc. is thrown out there
just to confuse the general public.
I'll see if i can find the thread and the guy who posted it.
It makes sense to me.
I'm sure we will find out eventually.
Don't you find it odd that the U.S. Navy is involved with HAARP?



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 10:41 PM
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Odd that the Navy is interested in long distance communications (including submarines)?

No.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
It looks like they are "steering" the jet streams.


Where exactly does that article state that they are doing that?



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by ucalien
 


No.
I think HAARP Alaska teams up with HAARP Norway and
forces the Jet Stream to head south and cool the Earth.
That is why the Earth has been cooling for the last 10 years.
Click here.

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Ok, what Earth are you talking about? The Earth has only cooled over the last two years, not 10.

Apart from that its literally impossible to alter the path of the jetstream. Also, the jetstream will not necessarily cause places to become cooler, nor does HAARP have any plausible mechanism to affect it



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 10:52 PM
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Wow! Someone else showed up on the thread.
I got the 10 years from the hacked emails Climate Research Unit.
One of the scientists was complaining that the Earth has been
cooling over the last 10 years and they can't explain it.
It has thrown Al Gores doomsday scenario out the window.
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Also, nobody knows for sure what is going on up there at HAARP.
Not even you.
Jesse Ventura want up there and they told him to get lost.
The powers that be are keeping it quiet.
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As far as the U.S. Navy communicating with our submarines,
they have plenty of other ELF stations that work great at
communicating with our boomers [SSBNs] that are currently going
3 knots to nowhere deep in the ocean.


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posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 11:01 PM
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I didnt say anything about the Earth heating like Al Gore, all Im saying is thta the Earth has had no significant cooling period for as long as you claim. Next time read properly


And as for your claims of the jetstream being further south, maybe you should check the forecast of the jetstream locations from around the world, and the weather balloon data that corroberates those forecasts.

Your lack of knowledge about meteorology is apparent

www.weatherimages.org...



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 11:09 PM
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Have you read the hacked emails?
Probably not.
They said 10 years. You are wrong.
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Australia?
Let me guess. You are "for" Al Gore and his Global Warming agenda.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 11:16 PM
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Originally posted by Eurisko2012
reply to post by OzWeatherman
 


Have you read the hacked emails?
Probably not.
They said 10 years. You are wrong.


And you believe all those hacked emails to be correct? Can you provide some of these emails as evidence?



Australia?
Let me guess. You are "for" Al Gore and his Global Warming agenda.


Actually no, Ive always maintained that there is not enough observational data to swing either way. By the way I actually am in the weather industry in case you didnt know, (which I assume you dont considering your hostility towards people that dont agree with you) and none of the temperatures Ive been reading have indicated a significant cooling trend over a long period, only the last couple of years.

And you still havent answered my questions about the jetstream, according to the real time data and corroberating forecasts, its sitting in the normal place anyway....not that it actually creates weather

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posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 11:27 PM
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Here you go.
When you get to the part about "10 year cooling trend" go splash
some cold water on your face. If you are going to be a "right fighter"
be sure to have the facts.
Click here: BTW all you had to do was Google 10 year trend



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 11:35 PM
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Ok, I will gove you that

But:

1. Its a global cooling trend, which doesnt mean the jetstream is at fault as most the tropics and sub tropical parts of the world are not affected by jetstream.

2. The jetstream does not affect weather patterns to a signifcant extent

3. The jetstream location has not moved (other than normal seasonal movement) , which can be proven by unaltered raw data on the internet.

So while you may possibly be right about the cooling trend, you are certainly incorrect about your jetstream theory



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