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reply posted on 1-1-2010 @ 05:07 PM by Aquarius1
reply to post by The Lord and Savior



Thank you so much, somebody had to say it, glad it was you.


reply posted on 1-1-2010 @ 05:28 PM by Jean Paul Zodeaux
Originally posted by The Lord and Savior
What I think is funny is how many random, everyday, average, ordinary Joes with absolutely no background in science or physics feel the need to enlighten the rest of us with their absolute conclusions (based on years of research I'm sure) that we can all go home now cuz' time travel just isn't possible!

Despite Dr's in physics and our own gov't researching the possibilities un beknownst to them we have a far more enlightened buch here on ATS who would remind you that your efforts are all in vain because based on their armchair logic and reason, you are wasting your time....TIME TRAVEL ISN"T POSSIBLE< PERIOD!!!!!. lol.

Please at least provide us with your qualifications if you are going to put your balls out there and make such a definitive statement such as "Time travel isn't possible, I would take too much energy". Where did you graduate? What degree/s do you hold? How many years of research have you done?

Or there is the other possibility.....instead of providing us with all of this information which would require alot of extra time spent typing you could all just STFU!!!!


Nikola Tesla has long been an admired and respected inventor who is also one who may have come close to, if not achieving, time travel and yet, Tesla did not have a college degree. Far more famous than Tesla was Thomas Alva Edison who had very little formal education as a child and was a self taught genius.

While I believe time travel is a possibility, I don't believe having a college degree or being credentialed is a prerequisite to achieving such an accomplishment. There are many bad, lazy and incompetent scientists who have college degrees. There are plenty of doctors who've lost their licenses because of malpractice, but have college degrees. I'm just saying, that's all.



reply posted on 1-1-2010 @ 05:34 PM by Aquarius1
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux



You are correct in that you don't need a wall full of degrees, but the debunker's just say it's bunk without explanation.


reply posted on 1-1-2010 @ 05:39 PM by Jean Paul Zodeaux
reply to post by Aquarius1



I understand, and those debunking anything should do so by using strong evidence, sound reasoning and logic, but then again, when debunking debunker's, that same sound reasoning and logic should be used.


reply posted on 1-1-2010 @ 05:55 PM by troubleshooter
reply to post by Aquarius1


He is actually the third whistleblower...
...Lawyer Andrew D Basiago and Dan Burisch Ph.D. are already on the public record...

I started a thread on this a while back...

Climategate - Chronovision, Looking Glass and the Delphi Oracle.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I suspect global leaders have been using this device for some time now...
...that it is the motive behind the Copenhagen agenda...
...that it is an electronic form of Clairvoyance...
...similar to the ancient Greek's use of the Delphi Oracle.




reply posted on 1-1-2010 @ 07:37 PM by Aquarius1
reply to post by troubleshooter



He is actually the third whistleblower...
...Lawyer Andrew D Basiago and Dan Burisch Ph.D. are already on the public record...

I started a thread on this a while back...

Climategate - Chronovision, Looking Glass and the Delphi Oracle.
www.abovetopsecret.com...


Thank you troubleshooter, I will check it out.



[edit on 1-1-2010 by Aquarius1]



reply posted on 1-1-2010 @ 07:46 PM by prevenge
reply to post by Aquarius1



So essentially.. someone could have gone back in time and given themselves permission to eradicate 1/3 of the world's population by just showing up in fancy colors and lights and whispering a few things in John, the author of the Book of Revelation's ear.. thus putting the blame for such future actions on an imaginary man in the clouds.

if time travel is possible.. then don't think for a second that what I just wrote.. hadn't been thought of or implemented.

oh and to those people complaining about the age -l grandfather paradox thing.. where you prevent your own birth....
have a look into modern quantum physics and the concept of multiverses and multiple timelines.

this ain't your grand dad's quantum physics you're talking about.
you make new timelines with every mod to your own.

that's the idea at least.

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reply posted on 1-1-2010 @ 08:02 PM by wx4caster
we as humans physically exist in the 4th dimension.

watch
this video it is an awesome explanation of dimensionality.


time as we know it can be called a human invention, but the function of time is an observable and measurable object. yes, our seconds hours and days were invented as a way to increment our forward movement through time, but we still age and the earth moves forward from point a to be at a speed and the displacement can be measured. thus time does exist, even if you take humans out of the equation.

so we exist at a point moving forward in the fourth dimension, unaware of the 5th yet it exists. so does the 3rd. we exist above it, so we can see the 3rd dimension, yet we cannot exist only in the 3rd dimension, or else we would be static.

now as time travel goes, there are a few methods to acheive a facsimile time travel, these are no brainers, as in we travel forward in time with no effort and naturally. we can advance forward in time rapidly through relativistic travel, or cryogenics, and other "loop holes" that would allow us to have our observed surroundings age faster than us, which means that we have basically time travelled.

now travelling backwards is something comepletely different.

first off, by most models of time (that is how we percieve the 5th dimension, a fork in the road, or decision, leaves two possible future events) allow for us to go back and kill ourselves at a young age, because even though we do kill ourselves, there is still a possibility that we do not and thus we cannot end a time line where we exist because we cannot negate one or any of infinite possibilities. even if we kill all of our family, it is possible that you didnt and therefore being possible to exist means that your originating time line or the one that you came from, still exists, even though you are acting in another. now the line that you are killing yourself in cannot be adversly affected, because this is again another possibility that has already existed, and therefore you are simply observing from a different point of view.


now can we travel backwards in time? there are a few options.

1: take every particle in the universe, stop it, and then force it to reverse while you remain static. this is not probable, although i suppose with an infinite amount of computing ability coupled with an infinite amount of available energy coupled with an infinite scope of view it could be minutely possible but i dont theink that the airforce is really concealing those types of capabilities.

2: fold the timelines, that is through the theoretical wormhole. this is a theory based upon a theory based upon a theory, and it would be difficult to say that we are doing it, considering it would again take an enormous amount of energy, and we are just getting to the edge of our solar system.

3: reverse every particle in your physical body in the same manner as the first proposal here. but that would just end up with you getting younger as the world goes forward, and essentially you are getting the same effect as traveling forward[/] in time.

4: find a way to funtion in the 5th/6th dimension, buuuuut that means that you would have to know every possible out come of every possible decision and the resulting decisions and out comes of those results and so on. again you are talking in the infinite. this is not within our grasp.

I am not saying that time travel is impossible. i am sure that in this infinite universe there has to exist (because it is possible, no matter how remotely) a species of beings who have the charting, computing, energy, scoping, knowledge, and execution capabilities to have this. even if you do not believe in aliens, it is possible that human kind may eventually get to that point as well somewhere down the line, so... yes it is possible in the loosest and most ponderous sense of the word.

is the airforce making quantum leaps and time travels across the time lines of the universe? i would be willing to wager not only my family jewels on that agains anything you want, but those of my children and grandchildren as well.


reply posted on 1-1-2010 @ 08:02 PM by wx4caster
we as humans physically exist in the 4th dimension.

watch
this video it is an awesome explanation of dimensionality.


time as we know it can be called a human invention, but the function of time is an observable and measurable object. yes, our seconds hours and days were invented as a way to increment our forward movement through time, but we still age and the earth moves forward from point a to be at a speed and the displacement can be measured. thus time does exist, even if you take humans out of the equation.

so we exist at a point moving forward in the fourth dimension, unaware of the 5th yet it exists. so does the 3rd. we exist above it, so we can see the 3rd dimension, yet we cannot exist only in the 3rd dimension, or else we would be static.

now as time travel goes, there are a few methods to acheive a facsimile time travel, these are no brainers, as in we travel forward in time with no effort and naturally. we can advance forward in time rapidly through relativistic travel, or cryogenics, and other "loop holes" that would allow us to have our observed surroundings age faster than us, which means that we have basically time travelled.

now travelling backwards is something comepletely different.

first off, by most models of time (that is how we percieve the 5th dimension, a fork in the road, or decision, leaves two possible future events) allow for us to go back and kill ourselves at a young age, because even though we do kill ourselves, there is still a possibility that we do not and thus we cannot end a time line where we exist because we cannot negate one or any of infinite possibilities. even if we kill all of our family, it is possible that you didnt and therefore being possible to exist means that your originating time line or the one that you came from, still exists, even though you are acting in another. now the line that you are killing yourself in cannot be adversly affected, because this is again another possibility that has already existed, and therefore you are simply observing from a different point of view.


now can we travel backwards in time? there are a few options.

1: take every particle in the universe, stop it, and then force it to reverse while you remain static. this is not probable, although i suppose with an infinite amount of computing ability coupled with an infinite amount of available energy coupled with an infinite scope of view it could be minutely possible but i dont theink that the airforce is really concealing those types of capabilities.

2: fold the timelines, that is through the theoretical wormhole. this is a theory based upon a theory based upon a theory, and it would be difficult to say that we are doing it, considering it would again take an enormous amount of energy, and we are just getting to the edge of our solar system.

3: reverse every particle in your physical body in the same manner as the first proposal here. but that would just end up with you getting younger as the world goes forward, and essentially you are getting the same effect as traveling forward[/] in time.

4: find a way to funtion in the 5th/6th dimension, buuuuut that means that you would have to know every possible out come of every possible decision and the resulting decisions and out comes of those results and so on. again you are talking in the infinite. this is not within our grasp.

I am not saying that time travel is impossible. i am sure that in this infinite universe there has to exist (because it is possible, no matter how remotely) a species of beings who have the charting, computing, energy, scoping, knowledge, and execution capabilities to have this. even if you do not believe in aliens, it is possible that human kind may eventually get to that point as well somewhere down the line, so... yes it is possible in the loosest and most ponderous sense of the word.

is the airforce making quantum leaps and time travels across the time lines of the universe? i would be willing to wager not only my family jewels on that agains anything you want, but those of my children and grandchildren as well.
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