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Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by stanlee
Once again your attaching to another religion what you are trying to dispell about your own.
riiiight is that why the un organised religios followers of wicca all say god is a woman? whats the difference between christianity and wicca? feminism. The three phases of the moon etc, their trinity if you will, not secular, just a moronic way of saying "screw you pope... we believe this instead"
Each religion has its nutty followers. Wicca is no exception. In fact, Wicca is particularly vulnerable because it does not follow evil, is not christianity, and it can feel secular. Wa la. It offers the perfect sanctity.Nto to mention, since it is not an organized religion, you can make up the rules as you go along.
Just because you meet someone is obviously picked up a silver ravenwolf book at barnes and nobles and claims to be a high priestess isn't as wiccan or druidic as the satanist killing chickens.
yet their sales are highest among all wiccan authors and look at that.... bought by wiccans too.. hmmmm thats odd
And these authors you mentioned are just as much of a joke in the wiccan community.
You claim to be open minded and intellectual. But an open minded person understand that it doesn't matter when a religion is created, as long as it is valid to the person.
That all religions have their pros and cons.
Who are you to judge?
your point? this doesnt alter the fact that most of the modern druids have no idea how not peaceful they were. Sure they oversaw festivities and religious rites and things but when the time came for war, they were not all about peace and love and all that crap. they were the first in and the last out. they lead their followers to battle honourably. Would the 'druids' today do this? hell no. they would claim themselves conscientious objectors and say the earth is upset about this war... well there are probably 2 out of 1000 modern 'druids' that will fight as they used to
As for the druids, most of the druids I know perfectly understand the ups and downs of druidism.
I have heard heated debates about whether druidic sacrifices should still be performed. Keep the religious belief or comply with modern standards.
Wiccans do tend to have the repuation of being fairies and rainbows and are basically retro hippies.
But many do understand that there is good and bad energy, and people do good and bad things. And stuff just happens, and it all happens for a reason. Not all believe it is just because.
I didnt say I was spiteful or angry at all. I said I hate them. they are annoying and there hasnt been one to my knowledge that has shown me otherwise. I hate them because they are no different from other mainstream religions in that they try to force their ideology down the throats of those that disagree. they affect my life by trying to preach to me the ways, or word of the goddess.. and though these so called un organised religions are allegedly free.. they all say the same things but hold different names of this 'goddess'. next?
But so what? How does this affect you? What does this matter to you so much that is unleashes all this spitefulness and hatred? It seems like you are doing to others what society has done to you for centuries or a millenia.
If you are meeting anyone calling themselves a white witch. Most likely you are meeting a dungeons and dragons player who saw the movie The Craft and ran to the store to buy a book, and now calls themselves a high priest.
And they do do it for shock value. But many are just looking to belong somewhere. Many are looking to rebel against Christianity.
what are you going on about here? I can and do.
But you also can't blame a group for being angry since there is still rampant persecution going on. And you are reminded multiple times a day that you will never be able to practise openly without repercussions.
Instead of standing in a corner scoffing and pointing fingers. You would know that true pagans(broad umbrella term) are a reclusive people, who often don't inform others who they are readily, follow the religions as they should be, and know the ups and downs. I have met people who followed Hellinisitic, Greek, Roman, Egyptian religions.
And those who truely understand these religions, know that being a "witch" isn't a title. It is a work of art. That is to be taken very seriously. IN fact, many, don't practise witchcraft, because of the ramifications. They leave it up to the experienced people. A good coven makes you train for years. Witchcraft is the art of manipulating energy with magic. Your a witch only during that time. It would be like telling everyone you meet your a knitter. You are a knitter when you make a sweater, but that isn't the whole of your religious identity.
Originally posted by mamabeth
Originally posted by Donny 4 million
reply to post by stanlee
I just have to respond to this post...
Since, satin is material used for making wedding and formal attire,what is
I'm a floral designer and wedding planner and this sounds important
well thats easy. its the religion that states Satin is better than silk. THey didnt get the memo that silk is used to make carbon fibre.
Originally posted by fmcanarney
I run over a possum, coon or civet cat, on the road.
Squirrels, birds get hit by autos.
I shoot prarie dogs for target practice.
I hit a vulture the other day, killed him, dented my hood a little, and gives my car character.
I shoot crows for target practice.
Originally posted by Stormdancer777
well Nixie, and stanlee, your conversation is truly amazing,
I don't think we have an true knowledge of what pagans really practiced, it has been lost, I always thought of them as similar to shamans or wise women and midwives, who had knowledge of herbal remedies, and healing.
And as for persecution by the church, mostly it was persecuting its own people, the Christians, who they accused of witchcraft, weird.
as for modern satanism it is based on what?
I should have my son come and express how he feels, but he wont.
[edit on 033131p://bThursday2009 by Stormdancer777]
Originally posted by GovtFlu
Why are SPCA "enforcement officers" allowed to serve search warrants? they are employed by a private corporation and are not "sworn" peace officers... although while on duty probably enjoy some additional arrest powers since the City of Philadelphia contracted their animal control services to the PSPCA.
I find it odd a city can contract out law enforcement duties to a private organization that can serve warrants..
"Philadelphia SPCA enforcement officers were first called to the home over the weekend to tend to two emaciated dogs. The organization said that after obtaining a search warrant"
an "organization" obtaining a warrant? just like that? ..so, all this organization needed to obtain a search warrant was a report of "two emaciated dogs"?? that is enough probable cause to pierce someones 4th amendment rights these days?.. I'd like to read the warrant they wrote up.
Originally posted by RedGolem
Thanks to everyone who is posting
The common theam seemed to be why not get worked up over child abuse. The answer they way I might see it is, this is about brutal killing, ripping apart and placing on display an animal for no other purpose then what is being called a spiritual act. Which is legal if done humanely
The mad emcon is to illustrate I still don't like it.
If any thing like that were to happen to a human the arrest would be swift, and likely capital punishment, laws are not the same for the animals.
That can be weighed against charges of child abuse being filed against some one for spanking the kid on the butt.
Bengal said that the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that rituals of Santeria -- a religion similar to voodoo and originated in Cuba and Brazil -- are permitted under the Constitution. But he believes these animals may not have been sacrificed humanely.
Originally posted by smyleegrl
I've always wondered why people get more 'worked up' over animal abuse than child abuse. Not that we aren't outraged when child abuse happens, please understand. But we seem to react differently when the victims are animals.
I've thought about this, and come to the conclusion its because animals are innocent. In my experience, the animals I've had in my life have all been forgiving of my foilibles, loving, and just.....well...good. Which makes abuse of animals heinous in the extreme.
I agree with you, OP. Stuff like this really disturbs me. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
Originally posted by yayap3
Ok if sacrificing animals for religion is a first amendment right, I think I'm going to go and exercise my first amendment rights and kill a kindergarten full of children to appease the gods. First amendment rights, right???!!!
Under the Lemon Test, for a statute not to be a violation of the Establishment Clause, it must meet the following conditions: (1) it must have a secular legislative purpose, (2) its principle or primary effect must be one that neither advances nor inhibits religion, and (3) it must not foster an excessive entanglement with religion.