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Topic started on 22-12-2009 @ 11:24 AM by karl 12
If anyone who is interested in (or has an opinion about) the UFO subject has not taken the time out to read the DP document then it realy is worth a look (maybe on a rainy day).

It contains a huge amount of very interesting information and government documentation concerning the UFO subject - it also lists transcripted interviews with FAA officials, Military officers, professional pilots, USAF Radar operatives etc.. and catalogues sworn testimony from individuals involved in such cases as the Tehran incident, the JAL Flight 1628 Alaska case, the Washington fly-overs, the Varginha incident, the Bethune incident and others.

I think whatever anyones personal feelings towards Stephen Greer it has to be said he did do a great job of helping to collate all this witness testimony and government documentation so maybe the DP document should be judged on its contents rather than one of its authors.

Any comments or opinions about 'the information contained within the link' would be appreciated - some of the UFO incidents being described are very strange indeed and although the document is quite a long read, its well worth the effort.




DISCLOSURE PROJECT BRIEFING DOCUMENT



Prepared for:


Members of the Press


Members of United States Government


Members of the US Scientific Community


This document contains an overview of issues surrounding UFO/ET topics, recommendations for action, background information, position papers, UFO/ET sighting’s evidence, summarized testimony of military and government witnesses to UFO/ETI events, summaries of two major recent reports, and selected government documents.


LINK

www.galactic-server.com...


Cheers.

[edit on 02/10/08 by karl 12]


reply posted on 22-12-2009 @ 11:55 AM by SeekerofTruth101
Now that Disclosure had happened, even existance of aliens admitted by no less than the Vatican this year, WHAT NEXT?

Aliens are here, and like any species from a civilised society, more so from one that is tech advance to master intersteller travel, they would prefer to deal with the leaders.

Fortunately, dictators are rare on Earth. Most nations had chosen the path of democracy - representation of the collective - to determine and decide upon paths to take that is best for their society.

However, Earth's nations are not united in anyway, each a soveriegn state with its own perception of National Security, to protect its own citizens from fears and chaos, and to seek insted of benefits from aliens so long as it does not compromise the nation in anyway.

Thus, the govts' silence on CONTACT.

Ask yourself - what would you do, or could do, or want if you know contact had been established. BUT remember, your wants must be tampared for the good of all, as we lived together as one society, where no one is greater than the whole, with responsibilites to each other - white or black, young or old.

Information and techology had already been filtered down to us all, in the guise of being created by men. Such knowledge had helped us progress and evolved within decades compared to our ancient horse riding ancestors.

Agriculture yields had improved tremendously. What more do we need from aliens? ( they may not hold answers to everything nor obligated to share everything ).........



[edit on 22-12-2009 by SeekerofTruth101]



reply posted on 22-12-2009 @ 12:35 PM by IgnoreTheFacts
Originally posted by SeekerofTruth101
Now that Disclosure had happened, even existance of aliens admitted by no less than the Vatican this year, WHAT NEXT?


I think that many of us have seen these events through different glasses. If disclosure has happened why are we still discussing it on a conspiracy board and not seeing the progress daily on the news? I guess because it has only happened in the minds of those that believe, as most logically thinking folks need more than what is already out there to declare what you have. And the Vatican thing...well, your taking what they said WAY out of context.

Aliens are here, and like any species from a civilised society, more so from one that is tech advance to master intersteller travel, they would prefer to deal with the leaders.


Like any species from a civilized society? I guess you personally know many of them, enough to make this statment, or are you projecting your beliefs onto these yet to er verified alien visitors? I imagine an advanced civilization encountering our current times would know that it is pointless to engage those that are in power, as they represent the lowest common denominator of our current society. Or are they too advanced to see that?

Fortunately, dictators are rare on Earth. Most nations had chosen the path of democracy - representation of the collective - to determine and decide upon paths to take that is best for their society.


How I wish this were true. Many of these "representative" democracies you refer to don't really exist. People are being conditioned to be taken care of from cradle to grave here and abroad by dysfunctional governments, so yeah, representative I guess....but only representative through the dumbing down of it's citizens. That's not progress, that's cloaked socialism and your falling for it.

.....BUT remember, your wants must be tampared for the good of all, as we lived together as one society, where no one is greater than the whole, with responsibilities to each other - white or black, young or old.


Spoken like a true new age hippie love fest. Imagining that the thousands of humans that still live in substandard mud huts are on par with those of us that live in societies that don't use sharp knifes to remove the breasts of living women so they can't feed their babies, lol. Thanks for lumping all of us in one group, spoken like a true, uneducated socialist. The sad thing is, you really believe this. The truth is, we are not all equal in these modern times, plain and simple. In a thousand years, who knows, but now we are not. I can't wait until we are, but in the meantime those that want to ignorantly move forward on that assumption that we are equal doing more harm than good. too many of us mammals that fight amongst ourselves on this worthless rock are still arguing over who's invisible man is more powerful. Equal indeed.....

Information and techology had already been filtered down to us all, in the guise of being created by men. Such knowledge had helped us progress and evolved within decades compared to our ancient horse riding ancestors.


This statement illustrates your ignorance of how modern things we use everyday have been developed through traceable, step by step accomplishments. But it is far easier to ignore real world progress when you can't understand it and imagine something that your mind can. The transistor alien? Really? I'm guessing your education came from the "internet", where such utter nonsense is plentiful, and written in such ways that those with an "open mind" will find it. There is not a single modern invention or technology that is beyond the understanding of humans, and that does not have a traceable path (at least by some) to it's invention. But let me guess, you read a book (probably didn't read it yourself, but read about it online) about that idiot Corso? Sure, his insane book counters years of published data and trackable progress....but you have to ignore reality in order to fall for that insane fodder....

The fact that you believe our modern technology is a result of "aliens" or "witchcraft and magic" only serves to illustrate the point that you don't understand how any of it works at all. Just like ancient man making up ridiculous things about nature because they didn't know what thunder and lighting was. Your now know different (or should). But I understand it is far easier to assign some ignorant assumption to things you don't understand rather than become educated...but that is what is wrong with the world...and what is wrong with ufology.

Agriculture yields had improved tremendously. What more do we need from aliens?


Are you for real? Do you understand anything about modern agriculture, I would assume you do to make such a statment. I grow a nice garden, one that easily outpaces what we grew on the old family farm, and it has nothing to do with aliens, but has everything to do with chemistry along with YEARS AND YEARS of study on the growth of plants. Aliens my butt. For you to assert that just displays you complete lack of understanding about the world your live in, but like I said, far easier to believe in your own "invisible man" than to actually educated yourself to understand the BASICS of the world around you.

Ladies and gentleman reading this, behold the basic reason why this subject is where it is at today. Don't kill the messenger, you should instead focus on the rank and file, the sheep if you will. I know the word "sheeple" is used to describe anyone who goes along with "the man" or "the media" but in this subject it needs to be used for those that go along with the "internet" as the ignorant are keeping this subject relegated to nothing more than internet boards that will never amount to a hill of beans without SUBSTANCE, which will only come through the understanding of REALITY.

For those that don't understand the world around them, how do you POSSIBLY think you can retreat to our neck of the woods and advance it when you only muck it up with your ignorance?


reply posted on 22-12-2009 @ 12:42 PM by karl 12
reply to post by IgnoreTheFacts



Originally posted by karl 12
If anyone who is interested in (or has an opinion about) the UFO subject has not taken the time out to read this document then they should think about doing so (maybe on a rainy day).



IgnoreTheFacts, what did you think of the document?


reply posted on 22-12-2009 @ 12:57 PM by IgnoreTheFacts
I found many of the assertions in the document have nothing substantial to back them up, such as the case with most of the "evidence" in this subject. Eyewitness testimony, some was compelling, but it was surround by the ABSURD and INCOMPETENT. What chance does reality have when sitting next to the ignorant while preaching to the utterly gullible, huh?!?!?!?

I mean, come on....this document claims that they know someone or some organization has all the answers out there...to energy, world poverty, etc. Seriously, read it. I know your smarter than this document, as I read your posts all the time. I bet if you read this document with your reality eyes open you would see what I see.

The disclosure project was a GREAT concept. I was hyped about it back in the day, despite Greer's involvement. But I quickly understood with him involved it would become nothing more than a train wreck and internet fodder for the ignorant for years and years to come....because nothing would come of it and the organization behind it would ruin it.

And guess what, I was right, lol. Nothing more than internet fodder that led to NOTHING. And why do, pray tell, think that is? Down deep, you know why, but you don't want to face reality because it is counter productive to your involvement in this subject.

Unlike most believers, I would gladly eat my hat and get my words shoved in my face if any of this was true, and I would be the first one to stand up and admit to being a close minded idiot for not believing in the majority of this tripe, and that is because I want to believe as bad as you guys do. Only I live, work, breath in something we call "reality", and because of that solid grounding in logic, reason and common sense I have a hard time relating to many claims made by the ignorant (like Greer).


reply posted on 22-12-2009 @ 01:13 PM by SeekerofTruth101
reply to post by IgnoreTheFacts



I can understand your frustration with the pace awareness is moving along, and thus your vents and pent up rage, which explains your wall of text, to take it out personally at others. I only have pity for you.

Change can only come at a pace whereby everyone is comfortable with, so that none would be left behind.

Your hurts shows clearly with the venom you displayed at the political situation around the world. There are undeniable flaws in any system. Perfection is not a trait of mankind.

You are but one in the entire composite of races in the Universe. What you think does not matter in the natural scheme of things to come, nor do mine. Our insignificance is huge.

I would only counsel patience for you, even if you will not be able to see the changes you hope to see in this lifetime, or you will end up one very frustrated old man living forever in denial and incomprehension of what is actually happening around you.


reply posted on 22-12-2009 @ 01:45 PM by Bobbox1980
reply to post by expat2368



I think there is one main reason above all others that motivates our government to keep faster than light technology secret: it would transform this world into one big city. When the NWO manages to institute world government then maybe they will willingly let this technology go public (not that I agree with the unelected unaccountable NWO agenda).

Think about our current world and what this technology would mean in terms of wars, nuclear warhead delivery, piracy, terrorism, etc. I don't think suppression of free energy to benefit existing corporations is the main reason and I'm still not convinced free energy is even possible.

Greed would persuade some, fear would persuade many.


reply posted on 22-12-2009 @ 05:23 PM by dirtydog
reply to post by karl 12



Great job bringing this to the board. S&F for you, have a great evening.


reply posted on 22-12-2009 @ 06:19 PM by karl 12
Thanks for the replies, the document is certainly a very interesting one and covers some 'extremely difficult to explain away' UFO cases - it also contains some intriguing official UFO documentation that I hadn't seen before.

Some of the incidents covered are also corroborated by other evidence like radar corellation or electromagnetic interference effects so here are their relevant ATS threads:



The 1976 Tehran, F-4 Phantom Chases UFO Case



The strange story of JAL 1628



UFOs over DC in 1952, Jets Scrambled



Bethune/Gander UFO Incident, Feb.10,1951 Newfoundland, Canada ( 300 ft. Diameter UFO Spotted!)



The Varginha Case - In-Depth








Originally posted by MajorDisaster
For that matter, why hasn't the entire May 2001 Disclosure Project press conference EVER been shown on the news?


MajorDisaster, thats a good question - I don't know if you've seen the work of Terry Hansen but he makes some very good points about the corporate media's treatment of the UFO subject in this presentation.


Google Video Link


"A mesmerizing account of his investigation into whether some of America's most influential news organizations, many having maintained close ties to the U.S. intelligence community, have willingly suppressed full and accurate news coverage of extraterrestrial related phenomena for a variety of "national-security" reasons


Cheers.

[edit on 02/10/08 by karl 12]



reply posted on 22-12-2009 @ 06:31 PM by karl 12
reply to post by sam_inc



Cheers Sam, I don't think some of these folks are lying either -here's some interesting statements taken from the Disclosure Testimony video in the second post.



"When you have the view of the airspace and the radar screen and you see the UFOs go around twenty or thirty miles a second – that is very real. They can turn suddenly almost 90 degrees in a second or half a second. The UFOs can go vertically straight up very quickly."
Mexico City Senior Air Traffic Controller, Enrique Kolbeck -DP p. 129.








"Air Catalogue is a rather extensive library I’ve been collecting for almost 30 years from commercial, private, and test pilots. I have over 3,000 cases. My estimate is that for every pilot who does come forward, and makes a confidential or a public report, there are 20, 30 other pilots who don’t."
NASA Research Scientist (Gemini, Apollo, Skylab), Dr. Richard Haines
-DP p. 131








"I was a top secret control officer. I happened to see a classified message go through my com [communications] center which said, “A UFO has crashed on the Island of Spitsbergen, Norway, and a team of scientists are coming to investigate it.”
US Air Force, Lieutenant Colonel Dwynne Arneson DP p. 176







"The UFO incident occurred on the USS John F. Kennedy in the summer of 1971. We observed a large, glowing sphere over the ship. It looked huge. I would say it was anywhere from three or four hundred feet to a quarter of a mile depending on how high it was. A few days later, the Commanding Officer looked at the camera – and I will never forget this – and he said, “I would like to remind the crew that certain events that take place on board a major combat vessel are considered classified and should not be discussed with anyone without a need to know.”
US Navy, National Security Agency, James Kopf -DP p. 203







"We had contact with an unidentified flying object that had entered our air space. The order was given by Admiral Trane to get this object forced down out of the sky if at all possible, by whatever means possible….Two gentlemen began to question me about this event. They were being pretty rough. I remember literally putting my hands up and saying, “Wait a minute fellows. I’m on your side.” My logbook, I never did see that again."
US Navy Atlantic Command, Merle Shane McDow- DP p.241







"I said, “Now this is supposed to be a system that tracks radar anomalies on Earth, right?” He says, “Yep, that’s what it does.” So I ask, “Then why are half of them pointed toward outer space, towards the moon, towards areas that are just blank space? What are they looking for?” He says, “You’ve got to have a need to know to know about that”.…We go back to a comment made by one of the astronauts when he stepped on the moon. It was the day after they got there. And he says, “You’re right, they’re already here.” It got out on the airwaves. I know several people who recorded it. It was quickly taken out of all tapes that were public broadcast."
Defense Intelligence Agency, Military Intelligence Analyst, John Maynard - DP p. 424







"I had access to special libraries, so we could go up to the library that the Air Force ran and sort of paw through top-secret material. Since I was interested in UFOs, I’d look to see what they had. For about a year, I was getting quite a few hits. Then, all of a sudden, the whole subject material vanished. The entire classification for the subject just vanished."
McDonnell Douglas Aerospace Engineer, Dr. Robert Wood - DP p. 434







"We had objects with four-way confirmation – ground visual, ground radar, airborne visual, airborne radar. It doesn’t get any better than that. In my following of unusual aerial phenomena for the past 50 years, there seems to be some reason to discredit very viable and very reputable witnesses when they say something is unidentified."
US Air Force Office of Special Investigations, Lieutenant Colonel Charles Brown -DP p. 247


Link



Cheers.

[edit on 02/10/08 by karl 12]


reply posted on 22-12-2009 @ 09:16 PM by Telos
Originally posted by karl 12
reply to
post by IgnoreTheFacts



Originally posted by karl 12
If anyone who is interested in (or has an opinion about) the UFO subject has not taken the time out to read this document then they should think about doing so (maybe on a rainy day).



IgnoreTheFacts, what did you think of the document?


Despite the fact that is a great material, this is part of 2001 press conference and has been discussed countless of times in this board. You should have checked the forum before posting this (just a friendly advise).
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