An open letter to ALEX COLLIER

Originally posted by spookfish

Originally posted by Mr Mask

Originally posted by Monts


I don't know about you... but I would rather have my kids raised by a delusional man who is telling people to love eachother and themselves than someone who is constantly insulting other people and demeaning them as people.

Wow...so wait...you rather have impressionable children raised by a fear-mongering quack who tries to convince people that aliens talk to him inside his mind and then goes on to say it is 100% fact that aliens are coming to hurt us, then a guy who thinks Alex is a liar and a scum bag who swindles gullible folks?


Got ya...noted.

PS-Stay away from my kid.

It's no different to what the clergy do, or believing god is communicating with you. And there are literally billions on this planet brought up that way and who believe that.

You seem to have a real attitude problem, completely at odds with your introduction thread. I wish you were the member you claimed to be there and not a raving hypocrite. If you were more like that intro, a lot less people would wish you buggered off to GLP.

As a friend of mine likes to say when defending AC. Perhaps one day AC woke up with an epiphany. He knew the world was going down the toilet, and that neither religion nor politics could save us. So maybe he dreamed up this alien story purely as a means to get out his message of peace and love and respect. Who knows maybe that's exactly what Jesus would have done.

I'm glad you posted this. Speaking of charlatan's I would have to say mask has removed his mask by showing his true colors and intent based on his introductory thread. What a load of tripe.

OP, you have some serious issues. After watching all of Alex's videos you still couldn't find a shred of decency in the message. I feel sorry for you because you missed the train. Unfortunately, based on your bad attitude, I predict you will eventually be banned from this site.

reply to post by spookfish


How's my ego working for me?

Pretty damn good...paying gigs, sold out venues, a cloths line and all the fans you ever wanted "without lying to them" to obtain them.

Trust me...what you assume is bad tactics...I assure you are polished tricks of the trade.

Be safe out there.

[edit on 12-12-2009 by Mr Mask]

Originally posted by Mr Mask

Originally posted by spookfish


It's no different to what the clergy do, or believing god is communicating with you. And there are literally billions on this planet brought up that way and who believe that.

So...you see no difference in having "faith" in a religion that predates us all by thousands of years, over "making up your own religion and painting it as fact"?

None what so ever?

Believing with faith in an ancient philosophy/religion that has spawned entire cultures...is a tad different then "inventing your own facts and then swearing they are scientifically correct 100%" while you get paid to do it.

If you needed me to point that out to you...I dare say, you sir need to "weigh" this subject again in your mind.

Actually you're wrong again.

Using your own example. Only in thousands of years would you be able to make any kind of legitimate comparision between faith in religion and faith in Alex. Prior to that you're just throwing stones at prophets.

And no I don't believe AC and no I'm not religious, and yes you do seem to have an inability to understand what people write and post and what you believe is the meaning of what they write and post. It's time for you to get off the shortbus and stay behind for extra lessions.

I won't be seeing anymore of your rude, ignorant, ill concieved, petty and hypocritical posts so feel free to lash out at me. I know feeble minds like to do that.

reply to post by Mr Mask


Thanks for pointing that out, I didn't make it through the video. I don't know much about Project Camelot either. From what I know though, it seems like your whole OP is kind of stating the obvious.

So...when and where do the people who know the actual truth get together in large groups?

reply to post by FlySolo


So wait...you think that "if you lie" but do it with a message of "love" that somehow makes you a "good person"?

No...

The type of crap he spews could lead a unstable person towards suicide or violent outbursts.

Where the hell do you find a decent message in a guy's words on "aliens coming to kill us all" and backing it up with "you don't have much time!" and "this is all 100% fact!"

Yeah...Hitler had a whole message of "love each other" to...were you a big fan of finding decency in his crap as well?

Geez...are you really this easy?

Originally posted by Mr Mask
reply to post by FlySolo

 

So wait...you think that "if you lie" but do it with a message of "love" that somehow makes you a "good person"?

No...

The type of crap he spews could lead a unstable person towards suicide or violent outbursts.

Where the hell do you find a decent message in a guy's words on "aliens coming to kill us all" and backing it up with "you don't have much time!" and "this is all 100% fact!"

Yeah...Hitler had a whole message of "love each other" to...were you a big fan of finding decency in his crap as well?

Geez...are you really this easy?

Haha no I'm not easy but it is obvious you are .(push push push)
You prove to me he is lying, ok? I didn't say I believe every word but the burden of proof is yours.
You really don't get it do you? Not my problem, its yours.

Originally posted by Mr Mask

Originally posted by spookfish


It's no different to what the clergy do, or believing god is communicating with you. And there are literally billions on this planet brought up that way and who believe that.

So...you see no difference in having "faith" in a religion that predates us all by thousands of years, over "making up your own religion and painting it as fact"?

None what so ever?

Believing with faith in an ancient philosophy/religion that has spawned entire cultures...is a tad different then "inventing your own facts and then swearing they are scientifically correct 100%" while you get paid to do it.

If you needed me to point that out to you...I dare say, you sir need to "weigh" this subject again in your mind.

The only difference between the two is that the "established" religions have had thousands of years to expand on the lie.

I agree with what your saying. Alex Collier is a shrill, I don't however, think he's making it up.

I think Alex believes every word that comes out of his mouth, much like the Evangelical Christians believe everything that comes out of that book.

Your message great, the over the top anger and ridicule not so much.

Another thing I noticed is that you said that YOU were right, and that you didn't have to prove it.

What were you reffering to?

Simply because WE and I mean all of us, can't possibly know if this is true, since there has been to collaborating evidence to show that.

Now maybe there's an Andy Collier out there who says the exact opposite of what Alex Collier says, then we have some evidence.

But as another poster said, the mantra of love all and help each other is a valid statement and is perhaps the only meaningful message behind his words.

~Keeper

Here is his reply to "Billy Meier/FIGU camp, especially by their U.S. publicist, Michael Horn"

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I think Alex is one cool dude - history will acknowledge this one day

Originally posted by FlySolo

You prove to me he is lying, ok? I didn't say I believe every word but the burden of proof is yours.
You really don't get it do you? Not my problem, its yours.

So..if I say "goblins built a city in my anus, but it can only be seen by angels"...it is THEN your responsibility to prove me wrong?

Yeah kid...good luck out there...bring back-up...you won't last long on your own in this savage world (specially with all these alien-pirates coming).

reply to post by tothetenthpower


haha

mr. mask is trying to be some kind of fictional super hero on this forum.

slaying those who say blasphemy with his anger filled logic.

i mean whatever keeps you entertained and happy mr. mask.

go slay those fools who think we have been contacted by aliens in the past.

please save us from those who speak at lectures and FORCE the public to watch videotaped you tube videos of them.

I mean who else will stop the goldmine of millions of dollars they rake in from saying they are in contact with aliens.

in all seriousness i get WHY, you have your reasons and your arguments.

but your taking it out of context, you must realize whats going on in this world.

Why not just ignore what does not interest you?
Alex is spreading his word....
Spread your own...
but watch out for my huge metaphorical dump!!
*Pinch... and wipe.
Now watch, I will ignore what does not interest me. I won't be back here to listen to you reply or hear your message. It's just that simple.
good day.

[edit on 12-12-2009 by keepureye2thesky]

reply to post by Dave157



To be very honest with you...yes...I am aware of many "real" problems in this world...and threads that have legitimate reasoning behind them shall never have a "unwanted" visit from me.

As for fictional superhero...

Nothing fictional about me at all.

Lastly...why is it always the "pissed off lost types" that always call shenanigans on "logic" and then call it "anger" when it is obviously being typed with laughter the whole way?

If this is anger...why dose my tummy shake with giggles?


[edit on 12-12-2009 by Mr Mask]

Originally posted by Mr Mask

Originally posted by FlySolo

You prove to me he is lying, ok? I didn't say I believe every word but the burden of proof is yours.
You really don't get it do you? Not my problem, its yours.

So..if I say "goblins built a city in my anus, but it can only be seen by angels"...it is THEN your responsibility to prove me wrong?

Yeah kid...good luck out there...bring back-up...you won't last long on your own in this savage world (specially with all these alien-pirates coming).

Kid? Ha what a joke. "Goblins built a city in my anus"?? Seems like you read too many comic books and porn. Before I get bounced from the MODS again I'll keep my mouth shut. I would hope you do the same, kid.

Good luck to you and your ad hominem attacks and poor debating skills You won't last long on this website.

reply to post by keepureye2thesky


Trust me...I do spread my word.

And trust me...you wouldn't be the first to dump on it.

And yes...again...just trust me..."there is no dire need for you to attend our meetings". We have enough folks attending without you.

reply to post by FlySolo


Sigh...getting angry?

Still trying to push, or are we all tuckered out now?

Yeah...ok bubby...enjoy your life and good luck defending people like Alex Collier and his not-so-super-friends.

Thanks for adding to my thread...it wouldn't have worked without you and your incredible input.

You do it all justice!

PS-I do not support porn or tolerate it in my home...and there is NO SUCH THING as too many comic books.

[edit on 12-12-2009 by Mr Mask]

Alex Collier is good guy, i like him. He speaks with passion. Is his information accurate? Hard to say. I believe some of it, most of it actually. A lot of his stuff can't be proved or disproved, such is the nature of this ufo/alien subject matter....you take it or leave it.

Does his material warrant an open letter bagging him out on a public forum? No.

reply to post by Mr Mask


I understand you get angry about him, i am too! and i think its good to say what you think but allways with respect. No need to put his children in this it has nothing to do with it...nothing. I really dont believe him either and i would say one thing to him and all of you, it is our fault! no ones else but ours we the only responsibles for this world we live in, not the alliens its us!! so easy to blame allien for the problems of the your country and world.Im not religious but i think its much better to convince people they need to love each and loving nature and god. Tell a story sell your books but dont lie to yourself about alliens, everyone is to busy looking for life in other places when we are destroying ourself here. And project Camelot try helping poor children and show people how cruel we are shame on us

reply to post by Mr Mask


I totally understand Mr. Mask on this. There is something so despicable about such delusional fear-mongers. They try to create a reality using the "message from above us" making it seem true while emboldening others to adhere to these erroneous beliefs.

Why has no one really mentioned the big stuff yet? This guy is on record all over the internet with various predictions from his, dare I say "benevolents," you there et_man, that have ALL failed to manifest. He gave dates up until 2003. He WAS WRONG every time! How does one go on record, prove himself wrong, and still have any credibility!?!?! I mean this whole et_man thing is nothing knew. Look at the Nancy Lieder's, the Motherlovebones or whatever the hell her name is, and the Collier's. They have proven to be wrong every time! They never offer any proof of any kind. Does it not make sense this is why they have always been wrong. They try to create fear. When people learn what this existence really is, they will begin to see how insidious these tactics are. Do not think for a second everyone will think et_man is a fraud when his October 2011 comes and passes. He will be back in 2019 saying how we "changed time lines for the time being" but it is coming in a few short years. Even worse, people who have seen him be wrong will still be following him.

[edit on 12-12-2009 by digginapony]

Who are you trying to help by bashing him? He obviously knows that he's full of BS man, that or he has some sort of mental disability. He's not hurting anyone doing what he's doing, just let him alone. Feel bad for him, the guys life is just a story...

reply to post by Mr Mask


You have no proof that Alex Collier is lying:

www.rickstrassman.com...

[edit on 12/12/2009 by dalan.]