Originally posted by Guidance.Is.Internal
Well .. what about the definition of "natural born citizen"? According to Supreme Court precedent, both parents must be US citizens in order for
their offspring to be a "natural born citizen".
What precedent are you talking about exactly? It would help to reference ya know. If your talking about the supreme court case where the child was
born overseas but returned to the US only to be refused the position of natural born citizenship, thats a different scenario. She was born
, where as this law specific that there must be both parents as natural born citizens in order for that right of passage to be passed
over by the child. This case doesnt apply
to Obama as he was born in Hawaii, and it is not been proven he was born outside US soil. Folks
continue to reference this supreme court precedent without reading the fine print, that is that the ammendment only applies to foreign born children.
All children born on US soil are natural born, where this laws doesnt count.
The constitutional ammendment of 1795 made it possible for two american citizens
to pass over their US citizenship to their child born off US
soil, hence McCains eligibility. This law is often confused by eligibility conspiracy theorists to count as well to children born on US soil, which it
If I was incorrect on the court proceeding you were refering to, please be so kind to reference it.
Also a note, natural born citizenship is an archaic phrase having the position of birth.
Further more, convention delegate Alexander Hamilton in 1787 stated that:
"No person shall be eligible to the office of President of the United States unless he be now a Citizen of one of the States, or hereafter be
born a Citizen of the United States."
There has never been an official ruling as needing both parents as US citizens for US born children to assume natural born citizenship.
Another note is that our 21st president, Chester A. Arthur had one parent who was born in Ireland and one parent as a US citizen, and he was born on
his father was a subject of the British crown at the time of Obama's birth.
This is a tired old excuse..... its tired, not me, I love discussing these....
Firstly, US citizenship laws over rule all other foreign laws. The US does not cater to other laws, and that includes citizenship. We are not subject
to foreign laws if we were born on US soil. Only the laws of the US applies to us.... which begs to question.... for all the talk from the tea party
protestors and the rightwing on how the US laws are abided first and formost, and without foreign influence, why on earth do they insist the complete
opposite when arguing something else?
Secondly, Obamas british and Kenyan citizenship died over 20 years ago... so apart from the fact is says no where in constitution concerning dual
citizenship, he technically never had it for more than 20 years... meaning his been a natural born citizen for more than two decades. At the time of
his run for the presidency he was only a natural born US citizen.
[edit on 3-12-2009 by Southern Guardian]