Originally posted by gemineye

I think the best way for a Christian to help others is to just be a good example. If you're a nice person and treat people well, others are going to notice. If you're generous and caring and just there when people need you, that can be all the "witnessing" people need. There's nothing wrong with inviting people to church, but just leave it at that. The second someone starts getting all preachy and implying that I'm a sinner, there's no way in this world that I'm going to be convinced to go to your church. I don't mean "you" in particular... I'm just talking about people in general.

It doesn't matter even if were directing it at me friend. I'm not your typical "christian" who gets offended by anything and everything.

I think that God deserves the glory for what we do. It's to show that He is in our hearts so that we might not take credit for ourselves. If Christians aren't giving glory to God then they're proclaiming it for themselves by default. So, just being a nice person and treating people well is not at all testimony to the glory of God. It's a testimony to the glory of self.

I will never begin to get preachy with someone. I will not condemn them and call them sinners, for in their heart they know what they are.

I've been to hundreds of churches, from the smallest of the back woods, one room churches, to the biggest of the churches run by those tv evangelists and one thing I've noticed about them all is that they preach and preach and preach about everything that is wrong with the world. It's like they push you to look down on everybody. Why would anyone want to be a part of that? They preach about how bad everybody is what everyone is doing wrong and then wonder why you don't want to join their church. I'm not directing this at you, A2D... it's just a rant, lol.
But, my point is, if God is love, why are these churches preaching so much hate? We see enough of what's wrong with the world on tv and online, etc. We don't need to go to church to be reminded of it. Church is supposed to be uplifting and joyous... not a reminder of what's wrong with the world. End of rant, lol.

I completely agree, that's why I do not attend these churches. Rather, I attend fellowship with like minded individuals. However, to say that God is love is to limit Him. God is not just love, God is merciful, God is gracious, God is vengeful, and God is righteous, to name just a few. To think that He will not deny someone for denying Him is the epitomy of arrogance. "God is love, so He can't possibly forsake ME...HIS CREATION..." Yes, He can, and He will. God will not accept anyone that does not love Him. Why would He make Himself miserable in the presence of these that would deny Him?

I think that most people mean well when they invite people to church, but the second you make them feel as if you are better than they are (by implying that they're "drowning" or whatever and you're the high and mighty one there to save them) you've already turned them against you and Christianity in general.

I've never had a holier than thou attitude towards anyone. I only answer when asked. I simply come straight forward, no beating around the bush, with the solutions to problems, if I have them.... Whether you accept the solutions I present or not, is completely up to the individual. I will not force it. Not once will I imply that I'm the one to save them. I'm just a messenger.

Ask any waiter at a restaurant open on Sundays and they'll tell you the rudest customers are the church crowd, and I live in the bible belt buckle.

Originally posted by SeeingBlue
Ask any waiter at a restaurant open on Sundays and they'll tell you the rudest customers are the church crowd, and I live in the bible belt buckle.

It's a form of spiritual arrogance. They will drop big bucks in the collection plate but forget to tip some poor Mexican trying to make a living.
In Lubbock all the new employees were required to work on Sundays to pay their dues so to speak.

You are free to believe what you want. I respect that.

I don't respect the weekly knocks on my door, pamplets left on my vehichle and mailed invitations to my address to come and attend their church services or I will burn in hell.

When I say no, I mean no. Quit preaching to my deaf ears and shoving your brand of religion down my throat.

Please exuse me now, as I have glossy pamphlets to print and distribute to the local elementary schools for my homosexual agenda.

Originally posted by whaaa

Originally posted by SeeingBlue
Ask any waiter at a restaurant open on Sundays and they'll tell you the rudest customers are the church crowd, and I live in the bible belt buckle.

It's a form of spiritual arrogance. They will drop big bucks in the collection plate but forget to tip some poor Mexican trying to make a living.
In Lubbock all the new employees were required to work on Sundays to pay their dues so to speak.

To anyone who can answer, Why do you think this is true?

Originally posted by andy1033

The simple reason why christians want to push it on to others, is because christianity is the only religion based on the human heart.

All the pagan religions see humans as scum mainly.

Are you seriously that ignorant? Or are you just trying to troll people?

What complete nonsense.

Spend 30 seconds of your life looking at any other religion before telling me about them 'all'.

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Originally posted by oliveoil

FACT: America is a Christian country and was founded on Christian Values.

Our national motto is IN GOD WE TRUST for crying out loud,Which in my opinion is undeniable PROOF that the United States government acknowledges that the God of the Christian Bible exists.

If you have a problem with Christians you have a problem with America. And God knows America does not need anymore problems. So please, just CHILL OUT !!

Fact: Majority of the founding Fathers were Deists, not Christians. Thomas Jefferson actually owned a copy of the Koran and donated it to the Library of Congress if I recall correctly. We're talking highly educated wealthy individuals in came in contact with a great many ideas from the age of enlightenment. If they wanted America to be Christian they wouldn't have protected religious rights in the Constitution.

Our national motto is a hollow one added during the Cold War to set ourselves apart from the "godless" communists. It was not an official motto until 1956. The United States has been and always will be a place of many different faiths and beliefs. So your claim that having a problem with Christianity is having a problem with America is absurd. There are dozens of countries with Christian ties deeper than this one. Israel is where Jesus lived. Italy is where the Romans took over Jesus's religion. Europe, Africa and the Middle East is where Christianity spread first. I really think you ought to do a little looking into things before you post stuff like this.

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Originally posted by Doc Holiday
UHHH your quoting the wrong cat man!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would NEVER say that!!!!!!!!

edit...you need to re-edit that!!!!

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Sorry Doc! My eyes must be going. Corrected and corrected again.

Apologies!!!!

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