Leaked documents reveal No 10 cover-up over Iraq invasion

Leaked documents reveal No 10 cover-up over Iraq invasion

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Military commanders are expected to tell the inquiry into the Iraq war, which opens on Tuesday, that the invasion was ill-conceived and that preparations were sabotaged by Tony Blair's government's attempts to mislead the public.

They were so shocked by the lack of preparation for the aftermath of the invasion that they believe members of the British and US governments at the time could be prosecuted for war crimes by breaching the duty outlined in the Geneva convention to safeguard civilians in a conflict, the Guardian has been told.

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My favorite part "Significantly, the documents support what officials have earlier admitted – that the army was not allowed to prepare properly for the Iraq invasion in 2002 so as not to alert parliament and the UN that Blair was already determined to go to war."

If I were writing the report, I'd summarize:
bush and blair should be tried as war criminals, they conspired to ruin millions of innocent lives, and to hastily send other peoples kids off to die based on a well orchestrated pack of lies & propaganda.

This govt manipulation and avoidable violence is an affront to humanity on the same scale as adolph hitler and his nazi political party war machine.

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[edit on 22-11-2009 by GovtFlu]

A little tidbit about Iraq and the 33rd parallel....

"The Masons would like to believe that God favors their duties as funeral directors. The Masons become funeral directors by first directing whose body will at the funeral, and where that life will be taken. If a life is taken close to the northern 33rd Parallel, this fits with the Masons' demonic mythology in which they demonstrate their worldly power by spilling human blood at a predetermined locale." - David Icke

The real evidence will come and bite them in the ass sooner or later.

Observe this great awakening surrounding 9/11 at the moment. All it can do is pick up momemtum. The Official Story will always be on the back foot and the real evidence will always have the upper hand.

Sooner or later it'll flip completely.

Oh! oh! oh! My Gawd! I just love this quote from the article:

"It was not unlike 1750s colonialism where the military had to do everything ourselves". One, describing the supply chain, added: "I know for a fact that there was one container full of skis in the desert".

You just gotta love that one! It's hilarious! "one container full of skis in the desert"

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The army General came straight from his skiing holiday in the alps.

Piss poor organization indeed.

What I am wondering ..

If Bush & Blair, possibly others, are convicted of war crimes and it turns out that the invasion of Iraq was complete BS ...

How many families of fallen soldiers are going to seek legal action against their governments for monetary compensation for their lose?

That could potentially be Billions of Dollars.

I'm not saying that the families do not deserve to be compensated for losing a loved one based on a completely fabricated reason for war .. but this could be a catastrophic impact on the global economy.

Then you have to figure in the amount of money it's going to cost to take these people to court.

A trial that would be drawn out for years if their defense teams could manage it.

You thought the OJ trial was a mess!!

I doubt the US would turn Bush over. And if they decided not to, no one can force them to do it. The US is too big to force them into anything.

The cost of the trial should not be a reason not to have the trial. If war crimes were committed, then the guilty ones should be tried and punished.

Originally posted by Detailed Perfection
What I am wondering ..

If Bush & Blair, possibly others, are convicted of war crimes and it turns out that the invasion of Iraq was complete BS ...

How many families of fallen soldiers are going to seek legal action against their governments for monetary compensation for their lose?

That could potentially be Billions of Dollars.

I'm not saying that the families do not deserve to be compensated for losing a loved one based on a completely fabricated reason for war .. but this could be a catastrophic impact on the global economy.

Then you have to figure in the amount of money it's going to cost to take these people to court.

A trial that would be drawn out for years if their defense teams could manage it.

You thought the OJ trial was a mess!!

Bush will blow up the world before he lets himself get convicted of war crimes. Just because he is not in office anymore doesn't mean he doesn't have power.

[edit on 11/23/2009 by nightmarehalo]

reply to post by Detailed Perfection


Neither Bush nor Blair will be convicted of war crimes. This is a finger pointing mission staged to redirect the anger over the money spent on the war. Money which, atleast here in america, Could have bolstered the Economy and slowed the loss of jobs. Alan Grayson made the comment that we could pay for Health care with the money from the war, we'd even have excess.
However remember what the Gov health care plan will do to private insurence.. it will become fully Governmentally controlled. Don't think that Bush was to blame the idiots around him we at fault too, if not more so. Also don't forget as a country we supported the war, people calmed down and now their upset. Sorry I don't know anything about British polotics, I have enough trouble keeping my countries straight.

Originally posted by UnlawfullPriest
reply to post by Detailed Perfection

 

we at fault too, if not more so. Also don't forget as a country we supported the war, people calmed down and now their upset. Sorry I don't know anything about British polotics, I have enough trouble keeping my countries straight.

I can't believe you just said that. The American People are not the commander and chief we don't get intelligence briefings on the level that members of congress and the president do, they mislead us with false information and played on our emotions to go to war for false reasons, the only victim here is the American people and everyone affected by this illegal war!

Originally posted by Detailed Perfection
What I am wondering ..

If Bush & Blair, possibly others, are convicted of war crimes and it turns out that the invasion of Iraq was complete BS ...

How many families of fallen soldiers are going to seek legal action against their governments for monetary compensation for their lose?

That could potentially be Billions of Dollars.

I'm not saying that the families do not deserve to be compensated for losing a loved one based on a completely fabricated reason for war .. but this could be a catastrophic impact on the global economy.

Then you have to figure in the amount of money it's going to cost to take these people to court.

A trial that would be drawn out for years if their defense teams could manage it.

You thought the OJ trial was a mess!!

Sorry to interupt your fantasy, my friend... Truth is, many of us have experienced all this at least once before.

It was called the Viet Nam conflict, and I'm old enough to remember all the stories of manipulation of geopolitics to enrich the Military Industrial Complex and to cause the death of 57,000 of our finest young men (including two of my own high school buddies). I reasoned those many years ago, "Surely no one will ever again send their sons and daughters to be killed in such a contrived conflict." Sadly, I found that indeed we have learned nothing from the past and will inevitably repeat all this again and again.

Why? Humankind is desparately evil at it's core and always responds with animal violence at the slightest encroachment upon their comfort zone. War is ongoing and neverending with this mindset. From before Alexander the Great (pictured in my avatar) to this very day, man's been involved in War Without End because of his desparate evil state.

War resolves nothing.

[edit on 23-11-2009 by romanmel]

Originally posted by GovtFlu
If I were writing the report, I'd summarize:
bush and blair should be tried as war criminals, they conspired to ruin millions of innocent lives, and to hastily send other peoples kids off to die based on a well orchestrated pack of lies & propaganda.
[edit on 22-11-2009 by GovtFlu]

I agree with you. I completely believe Bush, Blair, Cheney and others involved were pure psychopaths devoid of compassion or empathy. I would like for these three to be tried and convicted so I can start respecting my country again.

reply to post by romanmel


I'm Truly sorry to hear of the Loss of your Friends, Sir. I personally have nothing but the Utmost Respect for People that have Sacrificed all that they have for the sake of Civilians. I hope that one day, this needless Cycle of Violence will come to an End.

Originally posted by JacobTeDreamerIV.
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I'm Truly sorry to hear of the Loss of your Friends, Sir. I personally have nothing but the Utmost Respect for People that have Sacrificed all that they have for the sake of Civilians. I hope that one day, this needless Cycle of Violence will come to an End.

Thanks...so do I.
Only God can change the desperate heart of man...and He will.

This is nothing more than a smoke screen for more cover up.

I can not belive the public believes the crap they are spoon fed by our governments.

It is also amazing that our governement would rather state they went to war with faulty intellegence than admit they let the Weapons of Mass Destruction be driven to Syria being escorted by the Russian Ambassador.

We know Saddam used Mustard gas against the Kurds, where did it go?

We (The United States) gave Saddam Anthrax, where did it go?

We captured mobile labs and delivery systems yet found no WMDs and everyone believes our Government that there were no Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq.

The lack of preperation for after the war was on purpose for a good reason.

If you are fighting an enemy like terrorists you have to have a theater to fight them in. You need a place for them to send these terrorists to fight rather than allow them to terrorize your cities.

I think they wanted chaos in Iraq so they could kill as many foreign fighters as they could.

When the public started complaining they sent in more troops (the surge) to finish off the campaign in Iraq and move it to Afghanistan and Pakistan.

There will be no War crimes charges at all filed over this. Ordering people to kill civilians is differant than poor planning.

Now there could be charges against the U.S. in these UAVs bombings on homes in pakistan. This is why we deny we are doing it.

What do you think would happen if they filed charges against the U.S. for dropping a bomb on a house because they say some terrorist is inside?

The terrorosts have wives and kids like everyone else, yet we do nothing to protect the civilians and order their deaths with the father. That is a crime. Not a war crime because this is in a country we are not at war with.

This is Murder plain and simple. We need it, but it is still wrong.

reply to post by GovtFlu


What ya expect bush and blair are both lizards. Meaning they come from a blood line which has used euginics to program out empathy from there DNA. Meaning no matter what anyone says you won't get one real.."I feel for anyone"...its not in there DNA...
Lots of people out there look human, but there not really human. Look around and you will see the difference. Then you will know who is human and who is a cold blooded Lizard or worse. And next time make sure you know who you VOTE for. And not get caught up in mass hypnosis....

Use your own brain..
People have to take responsibility of there own actions..if you don't then you get "Others" that tell you what to do, what to think, and what to believe in. So yeah Bush & Blair are cold blooded creatures, but at the time YOU all went along with the WAR....

Cause it was patroitic, and revenge over the enemy which would attack the USA. But now you find out it was all LIES. And your looking for someone to blame. Well Blame yourselves for being taken for a ride. Not saying we should give bush & blair the thumbs up. Nope there both evil men and both have earned themselves a very warm place in the here after, next to stalin, poll pot & hitler.

But people need to wake up and not be so easily swayed by the political "Snake oil salesman" which waves a flag , gives speeches and gets you to send your sons & daughters to go fight & die for nothing...

We are all to blame..

My only question to those that think we were intentionally mislead in order to lead us to war is this: If they had the overwhelming ability to carefully craft and mislead the entire media to get the war started, don't you think they would have planted evidence out in the desert there somewhere to avoid this whole mess? Just sayin'......

Originally posted by IrnBruFiend
The real evidence will come and bite them in the ass sooner or later.

Observe this great awakening surrounding 9/11 at the moment. All it can do is pick up momemtum. The Official Story will always be on the back foot and the real evidence will always have the upper hand.

Sooner or later it'll flip completely.

Don't fall for the propaganda THIS time.

FACT: The first gulf war was ended by a CEASE-FIRE ARMISTICE and not a "Peace Treaty" meaning NATO can resume military operations against Iraq for ANY breaches of the cease-fire agreement.

UNSCR 1441 found Iraq in material breach of the cease-fire Armistice.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by IrnBruFiend
The real evidence will come and bite them in the ass sooner or later.

Observe this great awakening surrounding 9/11 at the moment. All it can do is pick up momemtum. The Official Story will always be on the back foot and the real evidence will always have the upper hand.

Sooner or later it'll flip completely.

Don't fall for the propaganda THIS time.

FACT: The first gulf war was ended by a CEASE-FIRE ARMISTICE and not a "Peace Treaty" meaning NATO can resume military operations against Iraq for ANY breaches of the cease-fire agreement.

UNSCR 1441 found Iraq in material breach of the cease-fire Armistice.

Political games - nothing more.

Those material breaches were the lies used to justify the invasion, which is what this all about.