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Sexual minorities in Africa have become 'collateral damage' in church conflicts as US conservative evangelicals and those opposing gay priests, ministers and bishops within mainline Protestant denominations woo Africans, a groundbreaking investigation by Political Research Associates (PRA) has suggested.
Kaoma argues that the US Right – once isolated in Africa for supporting pro-apartheid, white supremacist regimes – has successfully reinvented itself as the mainstream of US evangelicalism.
Globalising the Culture Wars: US Conservatives, African Churches, and Homophobia, a new report by PRA Project Director Reverend Kapya Kaoma, examines the US Right’s promotion of an agenda in Africa which aims to criminalise homosexuality and infringe upon the human rights of LGBT people while also mobilising African clerics in US 'culture war' battles.
Originally posted by PC equals Newspeak
One could just as easily prove that the whole "gay rights" agenda is a left wing pet project that is not supported by the vast majority of people in ANY country and only maintained in the West by means of indoctrination.
Your point?
Originally posted by PC equals Newspeak
One could just as easily prove that the whole "gay rights" agenda is a left wing pet project that is not supported by the vast majority of people in ANY country and only maintained in the West by means of indoctrination.
Your point?
Originally posted by infiniteleft wing pet project? lol
I forgot, "the gays" are not human beings in the eyes of conservatives So, when is Jesus marching them off to the camps then?
Is that the trains I hear?!
Originally posted by Ridhya
Why are you blaming all religion of this?
You're painting all religious people with one brush because a minority of assholes are doing an asshole thing. Its not 'collective christianity's' fault that some people are promoting homophobia. I know plenty of Christians that are tolerant/friends with, gays.
I also know plenty of atheist homophobics, and atheists who just say "# Africa" and "they dont do anything for us" and "but they owe us debt!".
Dont you watch South Park? A world without religions would just find something else, to kill ourselves over, with or without religion you are going to have assholes hating other people for their differences.
Originally posted by blueorder
Dunno, the communists and the national SOCIALISTS used trains to bring people to their death camps, do you live near such a place?
Originally posted by Ridhya
Oh God please do not get me started on this topic...
instead please GO DO SOME RESEARCH before even THINKING of comparing Stalin's dictatorship to communism, Nazism to communism, and even better, Obamas # to communism which I believe you implied...
Originally posted by blueorder
I will also compare Nazism to communism, two sides of the same coin to me
Originally posted by PC equals Newspeak
Nazism is based on the idea that race and biology as a whole creates natural divisions among humanity and that class a social construct that must be overcome. For most people, life in Nazi society was prosperous in spite of their lack of political freedom.
Communism is based on the idea that biological differences are irrelevant and that class is a natural division of men. For most people, life in communist society meant poverty in spite of their claims of representing the working class.
There are some similarities between the practicaly application of both ideologies, but in many ways they're exact oposites.
Originally posted by infinite
left wing pet project? lol
I forgot, "the gays" are not human beings in the eyes of conservatives
Originally posted by infinite
So, when is Jesus marching them off to the camps then?
Is that the trains I hear?!
Originally posted by blueorder
My viewpoint is they both spring from the same human well spring- the desire for control and for nothing being outside the state- I am not a fascist but consider it the lesser of two evils when confronted with a choice of communism
Originally posted by blueorder
Communists hated the fascists and vice versa because they sensed a kindred spirit who strayed from the path
Originally posted by blueorder
Mussolini being a former communist despised by his former colleagues, and history shows us many such toing and froing.
Originally posted by blueorder
exactly, who do you think goes out and gives gays a kicking on the streets- do people think it is bible studying Christians, deeply religious types, or atheists who love to indulge in anti social behaviour whether against gays or just randoms
Originally posted by PC equals Newspeak
Well, "democracy" is pretty much the ONLY political concept where the masses are expected to have a clue. Pretty much every non-democratic ideology considers only an educated elite worthy of political power, which makes sense to me and shouldn't be a factor in comparing ideologies.
They hated each other because they had many views conflicting with the other side and they were equally radical in their views.
I would agree that the step from "ultra-left" to "ultra-right" is far smaller than the step from either to more mainstream political views. I know several people who started out "ultra-left" and turned out "ultra-right" because their previous ideology no longer made any sense to them. A wise man once said : "he who wasn't a left wing when he was young has no heart and he who isn't right wing when he gets old has no brain". That pretty much sums it up for me
Originally posted by Ridhya
The most obvious fact that completely negates what you said is that Stalin was the DICTATOR, he was above the law, thought of himself as God, whereas in communism everyone is equal, there are no dictators being waited on hand and foot every whim done, because that makes him above everyone else. Lenin warned everyone on his death bed what would hapen if Stalin took power.
And now you're doing the same thing as academia and painting ATHEISTS with the same brush.
Originally posted by blueorder
IN theory neither considers a specific elite to be worthy of power- in fascism, well, specifcally the German National socialist brand, anyone within the chosen volk- in Soviet Communism, anyone who wasn't part of the oppressive class- in reality we know *as in all such systems* it would be down to a chosen elite.
I was more making the point that both ideologies were focussed on everything being for the state and not outside the realm of the state
Originally posted by PC equals Newspeak
One could just as easily prove that the whole "gay rights" agenda is a left wing pet project that is not supported by the vast majority of people in ANY country and only maintained in the West by means of indoctrination.
Your point?
Originally posted by Ridhya
Why are you blaming all religion of this?
You're painting all religious people with one brush because a minority of assholes are doing an asshole thing. Its