It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Investigation exposes influence of Religious Right on homophobia in Africa

page: 2
2
<< 1   >>

log in

join
share:

posted on Nov, 19 2009 @ 10:50 AM
link   

Originally posted by ModernAcademiaAnd by the way christianity is against homosexuality in every angle you can look at it.


I am not overly religious, but if pushed would throw my hat towards Christianity- what about Christianity being about loving everyone, no matter who they are, crying out loud Christians are even told to forgive murderers- if someone murdered a loved one of mine Id want to pesonally choke the life out of them- but this is not in accordance with Christianity?




posted on Nov, 19 2009 @ 10:52 AM
link   
reply to post by blueorder
 


christianity = do not sleep with another man
and sex is mostly for reproduction
man + man = only sex without reproduction

love everyone doesn't mean LOVE everyone


but christianity says this but it says that
of course you will find contradiction
you can't find logic in a religion bro
that goes for all religions

but for the most, it's anti-homosexuality

[edit on 19-11-2009 by ModernAcademia]



posted on Nov, 19 2009 @ 10:55 AM
link   

Originally posted by blueorder
IN theory neither considers a specific elite to be worthy of power- in fascism, well, specifcally the German National socialist brand, anyone within the chosen volk- in Soviet Communism, anyone who wasn't part of the oppressive class- in reality we know *as in all such systems* it would be down to a chosen elite.


Of course. "Democracy" is the exception, not the rule.


Originally posted by blueorder
Certain views contradicted each other, others were very similar- they hated each other because they were basically fighting for the same ground, and they both knew it


No more than "democracy" was fighting for the same ground.



posted on Nov, 19 2009 @ 10:56 AM
link   

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
reply to post by blueorder
 


christianity = do not sleep with another man
and sex is mostly for reproduction
man + man = only sex without reproduction

love everyone doesn't mean LOVE everyone


but christianity says this but it says that
of course you will find contradiction
you can't find logic in a religion bro
that goes for all religions

but for the most, it's anti-homosexuality

[edit on 19-11-2009 by ModernAcademia]



for me the bible should never be a literal thing, anyone who takes it literally is, in my view, on the road to no town, it should be more symbolic and used as a guide



posted on Nov, 19 2009 @ 10:57 AM
link   
Damn, I cant resist, I just have to add I really hope Lenin is not in hell with Stalin. In his defence he was for violence, but only against the oppressors. Myself, even more pacifist than Lenin, would probably bitch out and forgive them... but being Norwegian I have to support resistance to the oppressors in all form. Wage slavery! Its like slavery without chains! (good song title, Ill use it)


reply to post by ModernAcademia
 

But your point completely falls through, because there are millions of compassionate people of all religions, abrahamic, hindu, shinto, native, buddhist, etc etc who couldnt be better people. Its like you're blaming the apple tree for having a few worms!

My whole point is that religion or no, there are assholes, there are racists, there are people who exploit their fellow man for profits...

If even one person exist who is of a religion but is a good person, it is not religions fault. Religion does not make a man shoot a doctor, blow themself opp, suppress others, feel superior. It is already decided in the persons heart. Maybe religion can encourage it. But religion is just a concept. It is not holding a gun to their head to make them hateful.



posted on Nov, 19 2009 @ 11:02 AM
link   

Originally posted by blueorder
for me the bible should never be a literal thing, anyone who takes it literally is, in my view, on the road to no town, it should be more symbolic and used as a guide


You sound like the presidential candidates who were too scared to answer the question on whether every word in the bible was true or not and they all said "it's mostly anecdotes".



Dude, i strongly believe in you should say what you mean in order to mean what you say

God knew humanity will take things literally
therefore it's not god's word

anytime someone says "but the bible says this" and pro-christianity or insert religion name answers "don't take it too literally" or "god works in mysterious ways", this is precisely why you are having less and less followers every generation



posted on Nov, 19 2009 @ 11:03 AM
link   

Originally posted by Ridhya
Damn, I cant resist, I just have to add I really hope Lenin is not in hell with Stalin. In his defence he was for violence, but only against the oppressors.


In theory perhaps. In reality, entire sub-classes of Russian society were exterminated or sent to the Gulags the moment Lenin took control of the country (similar to what Pol Pot, Mao and other communist "liberators" did).



posted on Nov, 19 2009 @ 11:03 AM
link   

Originally posted by Ridhya
But your point completely falls through, because there are millions of compassionate people of all religions, abrahamic, hindu, shinto, native, buddhist, etc etc who couldnt be better people. Its like you're blaming the apple tree for having a few worms!


Some people die alcohol poisining, but not everyone
so drink as much as you can

that's what you are saying

religion is mind poison, it makes people think illogically
just believe in yourself and people and watch this world evolve like never before



posted on Nov, 19 2009 @ 11:10 AM
link   

Originally posted by ModernAcademia
Some people die alcohol poisining, but not everyone
so drink as much as you can

that's what you are saying


WHAT!!! Thats not what I said at all!!
I never said 'there's some good religious people so go join a religion! QUICK!'

More accurate would be
Alcohol does not kill everyone, only those retarded enough to go past their limit
therefore drink up! but be smart about it

As a devout vodka-ist I am very offended by your analogy



new topics

top topics



 
2
<< 1   >>

log in

join