Would someone please answer something for me. OK here in the US, How many of you have solid confirmation of this thing running wild. Are you schools still closing? do you hear of your hospitals being overcrowded with Flu victims? and do you really hear of the amount of deaths, cause in that case someone always knows a friend of somebody. My point here is My area is not having issues with H1N1 in the cases of severity that is constantly being broad casted on MSM, and many I have spoken to in my area and friends around the states tell me the same thing. It is Being blown way outta proportion.

It hit pretty hard here too. Cases are picking up steadily over the past two weeks and it was already bad before that.

The Ukraine strain has spread to Canada, I'm just waiting for the news to be released to the press but it's well known within the research community.

If any form of plague had been used in Ukraine we would have seen massive numbers of dead. Based on the number of infected the death toll would be over 100k now and that is not something they could hide. Looking at all the conflicting news coming out I don't see a lot of censorship going on there.

It's the same for an airborne bioweapon. The number of infected would have been in the millions right away. We have one ATS member who heard the rumors and said he heard a small plane one night. Until the blog rumors started there were no press reports other than one.

That report claimed they were spraying something to combat the swine flu. I'd heard a day prior that they were going to try the aeroclave response which is spraying a type of hydrogen peroxide to try and kill the virus in the open. It's supposed to reduce the number of infected and is on the UK pandemic response plans though finding documentation has proven to be near impossible.

It's one of two things - a swine flu mutation right when we're running out of vaccine or the bio weapon rumors are true and we're done for.

If you believe the rumors it's time to get your affairs n order because most of us are going to die. Based on my own checking, I don't believe the rumors. All of these events were seen in 1918, same symptoms, same waves and mutations. So far nothing new is going on here.

I still find it interesting that my area of the country does not have a high case load.

So why not at least give the onion" thing" a try. It is very cheap and I will contest to it's ability. and as stated earlier, Our area of Wisconsin is very Mild with infection.

I have to admit that despite being able to find any hard evidence on the pnuemonic plague outbreaking in the Ukraine, I still suspect that the country is being used as a testing ground whereby a cocktail of different strains now exist.

Can anyone confirm whether or not the London laboratories have officially released the findings of their examinations? If they haven't done so how are they getting away with this?

To use influenza as a bioweapon would be a complete break from everything they would "want" from a military standpoint. There is no managing the location, it mutates beyond prediction and the species hopping abilities add another layer of trouble.

There are concerns about a terrorist scenario, the common wisdom being that only someone who doesn't care about their own side's lives would use it.

Bioweapons are not supposed to be contagious beyond the initial exposure. Smallpox variations are the only exception to that I can think of without trying too hard.

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