Originally posted by On the Edge
reply to post by TheWalkingFox
1 Corinthians 1:18,"For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing,but to us who are being saved,it is the power of God. For
it is written:'I will destroy the wisdom of the wise,the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate."
Jude 10,"Yet these men speak abusively against whatever they do not understand."
Ephesians 4:18,"They are darkened in their understanding and seperated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the
hardening of their hearts."
1 Corinthians 2:14,"The man withhout the spirit does not accept the things that come from the spirit of God,for they are foolishness to him,and he
cannot understand them because they are spiritually discerned."
Until you've experienced God in your life in a way that leads you to say,"I have seen the light!",it's normal for you to want to doubt and take a
stand against faith. I used to be like that,too.
You shouldn't knock it til you've tried it!
I have tried it, thanks. I was raised on it. I had the idea of joining the clergy, even. I was your typical little church kid. I did a book report on
Exodus (and got a B+! Yay for Alabama!) and witnessed for my friends all the way up into my teenage years.
Now contrary to a lot of claims from people such as yourself, it wasn't some sort of tragedy or rebellionsness that made me question god. I wasn't
like "F YOU GOD I WON'T BELIEVE IN YOU, THAT'LL SHOW YOU!" - I simply studied scripture more, and it quite simply stopped making any sense.
I had accepted Jesus because i was "supposed to" but after getting older and reading up on what I thought I believed... it was nonsense. Let me line
it up for you. I don't expect you to deconvert or anything, I'm just going to show you the process here.
In the beginning, god created four important things - Adam, Eve, the Serpent, and the Tree of Knowledge of Good and evil. Being omniscient, god
absolutely knew what was going to result of this. Being omnipotent, he could have stopped it from happening. he didn't though. Serpent coerces eve to
eat the fruit, eve shares with Adam, god punishes all three, and there we have the original sin - presumably defying god.
Now, unlike other sins, this one is carried in the seed - that is, every descendant of Adam and Eve - every human, by the bible - carries this sin in
their veins. Now, at first, God tells the people that to cleanse this sin, they need to kill and incinerate all kinds of animals for him to enjoy the
smell of. Apparently this doesn't work, so god comes up with a new game plan.
He finds a 14 year old Jewish girl in Roman Iudaea and impregnates her so that she will give birth to himself. Thirty-three years later, he will then
sacrifice himself to himself to pay for the sin that he engineered in the first place, thereby absolving all humanity of that sin, provided that they
acknowledge that they needed him to do this in the first place.
This became just so completely bizarre to me that I actually began to hate myself, figuring i was a freak of nature for thinking this story was weird.
I mean everyone else bought it, why was I having trouble? There was even a time I considered converting to Islam - it lacks the original sin doctrine,
and I could still be religions and could still give Jesus his props and all that.
Well, I got a little older, and eventually figured it out. it makes no sense because it makes no sense
. It wasn't that I was defective, or a
freak, it was that the very concept and the story is blatantly idiotic. I still had this hangup where I didn't want to not believe in god, though, so
I started exploring other religions. And they're all pretty dang dumb. I kind of held out for a little, even as recently as last year galling myself
a pagan, but, y'know, I've pretty much grown out of any need for imaginary friends.
There's a quote from [s]the devil[/s] Ronald Reagan, "A communist is someone who reads Marx and Lenin. An anti-communist is someone who
Marx and Lenin." While I don't agree with his specific example, the logic does actually work. I am not religious because I have
studied, researched, and debated religions for years, On The edge. I know your book better than you do. I understand your denominations better than
you do. And I have made a rational and adult choice that these things are not something I need to worry about, much less use to guide my life.
sorry to disappoint.