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Originally posted by McGotti
Im somewhat confused on what your saying....I dont believe the american guards felt their lives were in danger..so why would they give disinformation about who gave them the orders to humiliate and the photograph themselves...
So if the CIA ordered the pictures and torture.....and got caught red handed...its possible they either did the berg killing themselves or ordered somebody to do it and they may have been caught again.
Originally posted by sanctum
I didn't mean the 'guards'. I'm referring to inmates/detainees
Originally posted by Valhall
Thanks for your work on this.
Originally posted by Alchy
Who ask himself the question why, Nick, was in americans jails a few days before he died and for wich dark reason did he become a terrorist-prisoner of Americans? Why was he slackened (got free) by the army without reason, process or exuz, as he was said lost? Why did the terrorists have strangely choose internet to show it, when it doesnt alow to verify any faking?
Why is he set on a chair which same model was photographed at Abu-Ghraib prison?
Why do the yellow wall, the floor, his prisoner-clothes look all the same in Abu-Ghraib prison?
Why do we hear americans spokes in back-sounds?
Why do the terrorists looks tall, fat, and white (hands), and wouldnt have Arabic accent?
Why do a zoom cut the scene where he is projected on the floor, then menaced with a cut (4 or 5 frame only) posed on his neck (yes, only!), his hair pulled zoom- and the barbarity begins?
Why doesnt he struggle while yelling, once the sound is harmonised with the video (he moves a little because he is moved by the man in his back)?
Why do some doctors say blood doesnt flow like that when a jugular is cut on a living man?
Why do CNN specialists of Zarkaoui say it is not his voice, not his prosthesis (no prosthesis) but CIA say so?
Why do the chef affirm he is Zarkaoui and tell it without problem in front of the polices of the world, but is completely masked?
Why do he read is letter with no real conviction, passion or anger and terrorists cries of belivers to god seem more like foot ball supporters cry?
Why do, since the body was find, nobody made autopsy?
Why is the body always in Irak?
Why do French dont care about so strange things (we dont want to die!!)?
The theory is that it was made to make the world vomit and vomit again cursing iraqis for their anti-christianity (antichrist symbol). The text is suspect too, too sharpened to be free (frank), too demonstrative of insanity, but not passionate) Nick Berg knew something that gave him the first part he didnt suspect, as he was asked to take part to that show to get free. It is his head witch is taken off and exhibited, but on his dead body. He was filmed on his own free in front the false-terrorists, if its not a montage, witch change nothing. We see the cut cutting him for the first time after the zoom 4:39 to 4:43. Look well, its the first real cutting of his throat, not before at all! At 4:43, he is in another position, dead, yelling, moving only because of the man behind him and his head is cut off. GIs needed an exemplary, confident, victim. There are still some 40 persons who have disappeared like him in Irak.
Im going sleep, 5:05 in France! Bye.
[Edited on 5-22-2004 by Valhall]
Originally posted by Valhall
This could very well be explained because Mr. Berg being misled by people he trusted to believe that this would be a staged event. Expert opinion in this arena does not override common sense.
Originally posted by DangerProne
But I was listening to a radio station in Detroit and the talk radio show said that in the video a person is wearing a US military hat as well as a jacket with US insignia.