Clinton calls Israeli concessions "unprecedented"

reply to post by oozyism

The greater the resistance, the greater the slapback.

So far, those who have elected to fight Israel haven't done too well.

Maybe you should go for a walkabout and show them how to do it.

reply to post by Lazyninja

Yes, according to you, I'm an old guy, and you seem to me to be an unknowing kid.

I live on land here in the US that flew under five different flags at one time or another.

The land you live on was owned by various groups, that were at some time in the past, determined by force.

Choke on it.

It seems to work for everyone else, so why is it that Israel is so different? A little biased, maybe?

Here's a news item. Israel is here to stay. Never going away, never again going to be defeated, or scattered.

That's a promise.

Check out this profane-laden video of a drunk, belligerent Israeli settler bragging about how the Jews killed Jesus and how he's proud of it. Are these the kind of people that the US and other countries are protecting in the name of God? Do you think that God would be proud of this young man's behavior? Is this type of language and behavior common in the Holy Land? The guy was adamant that he not be filmed. Is it because he doesn't want people to see the true face of Israel instead of the spiritually reverent impression that is generally accepted by their supporters? I've never understood how Christians can profess to love Jesus with all their hearts and then support the people who killed Him. It makes absolutely no sense to me. If all or most Israelis share this man's POV, then they must think that the US and every Christian who supports them is a total idiot. How can you love Jesus and respect and support someone who is glad that he's dead?

I find it awckward, hillary makes good getures ith israel, but not ONE gesture im aware of, liek when this year i belive, israle attacked palestine, tanks ran over babys, they used them as human shields, and now thier water is down to a trickle..and not one gesture or hope of help or fatih for them...but ofr the militants, Israel its ok
makes NO common sense to me, or any sense at all for that matter.

reply to post by gazerstar


And that's the problem.

So-called Christians who hold the death of the Christ against the Jews.

They can't seem to realize that this was the plan. They can't seem to get to the fact that their Christ was a Jew.

Funny how that works out, huh?

And this retard? Just another fanatical dumbass, and Israel has no lock on fanatical dumbasses.

We had the Reverand Jim Jones, the Flying saucer Mothership comet group, on and on, and on.

Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by Lazyninja

It seems to work for everyone else, so why is it that Israel is so different? A little biased, maybe?

I wonder why I would be biased when I am a Polish Jew. Now, whats your excuse?

[edit on 1-11-2009 by Lazyninja]

reply to post by ziggy1706


Well it might make sense if you realized that the land the Palestinians are on is land that Israel won by crushing its enemies in a war started by all their Arab neighbors.

If I were Israel you would have to take that lan from my cold dead hands because I would never give it back. EVER!

A lot of the usual posturing, resulting in the inevitable thread derailment.

Can anyone answer this question: Exactly what concessions has Israel made, and how are they unprecedented?

Sorry removed a bit off topic.

THANKYOU

[edit on 033030p://2009-11-01T15:27:56-06:000111 by mars1]

Originally posted by vox2442
Can anyone answer this question: Exactly what concessions has Israel made, and how are they unprecedented?

Best point made so far. You see most people just remember yesterday in this world, so its easy for people in public arena to say this.

Nothing they have not done before i would suggest, just pandering for public propaganda.

TALMUD says ( Talmud is racist !! ) all not jewish people are like animals .... thanks men !! nice to meet you !!! only jews are (hu)men ?? nice to meet you ??? hurt a Jew is the same as hurt Jesus ??? what a pretentious idea !!! we can say that we are all unter menschen or call it like you want it : result is Talmud is racist and zionists are racists. Everything is said : they thjink they are better than the rest of the world ... so f..k up, go to hell they say to the rest of the world : how can you work for peace in that way ??
I surely do not like also sharia and muslim fundamentalists, we live in a VERY VERY crazy world anyway !!!!!

Well, the story now has legs.

It's been picked up by quite a few media outlets at this point.

But still, for some reason, no one is answering the question:

What concessions have they made?

The answer, by the way, is none. Israel has made no concessions with regard to the settlements. If anything, the current administration has been clawing back on the work that previous administrations have done where illegal outposts are concerned. That's certainly unprecedented. Israel is currently - and flagrantly - in violation of numerous security council resolutions, General assembly resolutions, and at least one international court ruling where the settlements are concerned. They have conceded absolutely nothing.

But you'll all remember the headline saying they have.

Active zionism is an act of war
nuff said!

THE JEWS IN CLINTON'S CABINET

Who Run Clinton and the USA ?

The following list of Jews represent the Clinton adminstration:
(1/4/1998)


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Madeleine Albright
Secretary of State


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Robert Rubin
Secretary of Treasury


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William Cohen
Secretary of Defense


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Dan Glickman
Secretary of Agriculture


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Samuel Berger
Head National Security Council


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Evelyn Lieberman
Deputy Chief of Staff


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Stuart Eizenstat
Under Secretary of State



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Charlene Barshefsky
U.S. Trade Representative


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Susan Thomases
Aide to First Lady


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Janet Reno
Attorney General


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Joel Klein
Assistant Attorney General


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Gene Sperling
National Economic Council


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Ira Magaziner
National Health Care


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Peter Tarnoff
Deputy Secretary of State


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Alice Rivlin
Ecomomic Advisory



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Janet Yellen
Chairwoman, National Economic Council


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Rahm Emanuel
Policy Advisor


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Doug Sosnik
Counsel to President


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Jim Steinberg
Deputy to National Security Chief


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Jay Footlik
Special Liason to the Jewish Community
(no other group has a special liason)


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Robert Nash
Personal Chief


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Jane Sherburne
President's Lawyer


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Mark Penn
Asia Expert to NEC


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Sandy Kristoff
Health Care Chief


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Robert Boorstin
Communications Aide


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Keith Boykin
Communications Aide


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Jeff Eller
Special Assistant to Clinton


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Tom Epstein
Health Care Adviser


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Judith Feder
National Security Council


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Richard Feinberg
Assistant Secretary Veterans


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Hershel Gober
Food and Drug Administration


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Steve Kessler
White House Counsel


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Ron Klein
Assistant Secretary Education


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Madeleine Kunin
Communications Aide


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David Kusnet
Dept. AIDS Program


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Margaret Hamburg
Dir. Press Conferences


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Many Grunwald
Liason to Jewish Leaders


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Karen Adler
Dir. State Dept. Policy


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Samuel Lewis
National Security Council


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Stanley Ross
National Security Council


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Dan Schifter
Director Peace Corps.


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Eli Segal
Deputy Chief of Staff


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Alan Greenspan
Chairman of Federal Reserve Bank


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Robert Weiner
Drug Policy Coordinator


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Jack Lew
Deputy Director Management and Budget



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James P. Rubin
Under Secretary of State


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David Lipton
Under Secretary of The Treasury


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Lanny P. Breuer
Special Counsel to The President


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Richard Holbrooke
Special Representative to NATO


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Kenneth Apfel
Chief of Social Security


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Joel Klein
Deputy Whlte Honse Counsel



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Sidney Blumenthal
Speclal Advisor to First Lady


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David Kessler
Chief of Food & Drug Adininistration


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Seth Waxman
Acting Solicitor General


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Mark Penn
Presidential Pollster


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Dennis Ross
Special Middle East Representative


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Howard Shapiro
- General Counsel for the FBI


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Lanny Davis
White House Special Counsel


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[edit on 2-11-2009 by Donny 4 million]

Do you think Hilary could possibly be influenced by anyone in the above list?
Would she peddle there wares?

Can anyone post Obama's list?

reply to post by TSawyer


(I assume you live in the US, if not, i apologize)

The Palestinians don't want concessions, they want their land back

Will you give up your plot of land and give it back to the Native American tribe that used to live on it?

Well, what if that plot of land was owned by Cherokee before you, but Shawnee owned it before the Cherokee?

Who gets it? By your vague, thoughtless analysis, the Shawnee should get it...

But if that happens, where do the rest of us live?

You can't dwell on the past. Israel fought for its land, and rightfully so.
They're no less guilty or more innocent than any other country on this planet. So please, either go with it the entire way, set a good example, and give an Indian your home..or find a better argument

reply to post by Donny 4 million


So...what say you about all of the Christians, Muslims, Atheists, and Agnostics that may have been involved in politics?

Sensationalism and Over generalizing.

Tell-tale signs of a complete lack of argument.

reply to post by radarloveguy


[*SNIP*]

With regards to the OP:

The Zionists need to stop building settlements on Palestinian land. They need to turn on the water. They need to allow other countries to come in and rebuild the Palestinian infrastructure.



Mod note: Inappropriate off topic comment removed.

[edit on 11/2/2009 by AshleyD]

Everyone please click on this link
www.pbs.org...

It's a goldstone Interview on PBS

It's a fairly good interview and seems to be quite unbias in my opinion

What do you guys think?

reply to post by Donny 4 million


Yes there are Jews in the US Government. Nothing shocking there. What is really shocking is those with dual Israeli/US Citizenship. NOBODY IN ANY ADMINISTRATION SHOULD BE DUAL CITIZENS. They should swear their allegiance to one nation. That nation being the US.


[edit on 11-2-2009 by groingrinder]