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reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 07:40 PM by Sky watcher
Originally posted by mars1
reply to
post by finemanm



Israel make concessions on settlements are you joking they should get off palestinian land all together that would be a concession but this dose not surprise me we can all see peace will never happen over there because what the palestinians want Israel will never do simple.

THANKYOU


Sorry but Palestine was never a country, It was a region. Should Iraq, Jordan, Syria get out of Palestine too?

Israel has been Jewish owned for thousands of years. Just because the Arabs took it from them in the past does not make it theirs. The Arabs wanted to attack the Jews and the Jews took all their land back.

The Arabs use the Palestinian cause just to undermine Israel because they know they can never beat Israel in a fight after getting their rears handed to them 4 times.

There are way more ancient Jewish historical sites in Israel than Christian or Muslim put together with the Jewish ones being the oldest by a long shot. Christians have more of a land claim to Israel than Arab Muslims do.

The U.N. gave Israel back to its rightful owners in 1948 and the only reason why the Arab immigrants were allowed to stay in Israel is because their home country's of Iraq, Jordan, Syria and Egypt would not take them back and the Jews did not mind sharing with them until they started their preparations for an attack on the Jews.

So Arabs who call themselves Palestinians need to get off Jewish land.

Thank you and have a nice day. If you dont believe me then study Roman history.


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 07:49 PM by DJAghetto
reply to post by CanadianDream420



lol Where have you been for the past 62 years? They already tried this method back in 1947...

Unfortunately, the Arabs didn't accept the resolution and decided instead to invade Israel immediately after independence...

They didn't accept Israel then, what makes you think they'll accept it now?


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 07:49 PM by Sky watcher
Originally posted by mars1
reply to
post by finemanm



I hope you are not referring to me as a Jew hater because that is not true i hate the Israeli government for doing what they are doing not the Jewish people there is a difference.
This is why i feel hesitant to post in this type of thread sometimes there is too much anger in them like i said i hope you were not referring to me.

THANKYOU


Israel was revived by everyday Jews who survived Hitler. You have no clue of real history on who the land belongs to and you sit here, bash the Israeli government like its not elected by everyday Israelis.

I will no longer try to explain it to you because obviously your brainwashed with Arab propaganda. This is why we have wars. Guess what? We win and you loose. I have history and the oldest most read book on the planet that tells me so.

YOUR AN ANTI-SEMITE, ADMIT IT.



reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 08:23 PM by BuffaloJoe
reply to post by yellowcard



Wrong site, wrong generation, wrong partisanship.

That's all I can say about this site. People's memories are short lived. Get as mad as you want but eventually, you will die and those who follow you will be even less sensitive to history. Its how humanity works.

No need for despair though, you are only here for the experience. The miniscule meaning of the Jewish-Arab relationship in the grand scheme of things is simply a pre-requisite for moving on.

LIVE-LEARN-DIE-KNOW-LAUGH - its as simple as that. This civilization will NEVER as a whole grasp an understanding of what's important and what's really comical at best. When we ALL figure it out, we will be viewed as primates are to us now.

Good/Bad/Dark/Evil - its all about that. No one alive today is responsible but we are all victims trying to lay blame. We are all fighting someone else's battle.

Do your best, help those around you, live a noble life, pro-create if possible and be on your way. Its just a matter of time.


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 08:36 PM by badkarma90
Originally posted by Sky watcher
Originally posted by mars1
reply to
post by finemanm



I hope you are not referring to me as a Jew hater because that is not true i hate the Israeli government for doing what they are doing not the Jewish people there is a difference.
This is why i feel hesitant to post in this type of thread sometimes there is too much anger in them like i said i hope you were not referring to me.

THANKYOU


Israel was revived by everyday Jews who survived Hitler. You have no clue of real history on who the land belongs to and you sit here, bash the Israeli government like its not elected by everyday Israelis.

I will no longer try to explain it to you because obviously your brainwashed with Arab propaganda. This is why we have wars. Guess what? We win and you loose. I have history and the oldest most read book on the planet that tells me so.

YOUR AN ANTI-SEMITE, ADMIT IT.


wow, he's one of the REASONABLE people saying he's not against jews in general, just the govt. and you call him an anti-semite?

geez, i wonder what you'd call a person who REALLY hates you. no wonder so many people hate jews. it all makes sense now.


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 08:47 PM by DJAghetto
reply to post by vox2442



I think she was refering to the unilateral disengagement from Gaza, but I could be wrong. The withdrawal didn't help the peace process, because Israel didn't receive anything positive in return except for more rockets being fired into Israel... The withdrawal was a "concession", but I'm not sure if she was refering to that event.


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 08:55 PM by vox2442
reply to post by DJAghetto



No, that doesn't match. Here's the quote from the story:



JERUSALEM – U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton said Saturday that Israel is making "unprecedented" concessions on West Bank settlement construction


She's clearly talking about settlement construction.

Yet there's no mention of what they have conceded.



reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 09:32 PM by TSawyer
reply to post by finemanm





I agree with your opinion on the Dafur situation, I share your EXACT sentiments actually. I also believe European Jews can resolve the process by going back to their European homelands. That will certainly help.


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 09:33 PM by oozyism
reply to post by finemanm





Even Obama's Secretary of State is acknowledging that Israel has done more than they ever have in an attempt to restart the peace talks while the Palestinians refuse to come back to the table.

Is that something new? When did the US ever take another side, for god sakes they have used how many vetos to keep Israel safe since its existence?


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 10:37 PM by DJAghetto
reply to post by Amagnon



Dude, you have to relax!

If anything, you should blame the Western World, as a whole, for expanding into the Middle East. Don't blame the people that were put there by the West. It's just not fair!


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 10:38 PM by dooper
reply to post by TSawyer


You seem to have some mistaken assumptions as to the origin of Israelis, the composition of Israelis, who's land is Israel, and who's land is the Palestinians.

Just to note - since Israel became a nation - they have had multiple coalitions formed with the intent of wiping Israel off that map - as they stated - and in the record.

Each coalition that attacked, lost land. Each time, Israel was attacked, they kicked ass so thoroughly, they increased their size.

On two occasions, both Damascus and Cairo were there for the taking, but Israel held up their advance.

Doesn't sound like vengeful folks, now does it?


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 10:42 PM by oozyism
reply to post by dooper



The Zionists occupied Palestine, they met resistance from all sides, and they are meeting resistance today. That is the full story. Keep it simple dooper


reply posted on 31-10-2009 @ 10:46 PM by Lazyninja
reply to post by dooper



Each coalition that attacked, lost land. Each time, Israel was attacked, they kicked ass so thoroughly, they increased their size.


Did you ever hear the phrase that history is written by the winners?

Judging by this comment and your sig, I can only assume that you think whoever kicks ass the hardest must have to be the good guys. This is a very old fashioned American view on the subject.

I know you are an old guy, soon there will not be enough of you left to support the Zionists. You had better hope they achieve their goals soon.
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