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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 05:29 AM by nixie_nox
reply to post by Divinorumus Actually archeologists are discovering more and more evidence that the very first settlers of America were from.... Europe.
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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 08:22 AM by Night Star
I think it was the vikings that were here before the pilgrims. There have always been territory disputes even amongst the indians. As for the American dream, it is more like the American nightmare for everyone. Jobs are scarce and the country is broke. Our children will inherit our debt.
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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 08:57 AM by Merigold
reply to post by Night Star I'd venture to guess that MOSt illegals don't have any false documents. I know I didn't! Pre 9/11 it was very easy to get legitimate documents. Someone who is looking to hire cheap labor isn't going to request a SS card. Ergo the majority of illegas who come from countries in which 3 dollars an hour is a lot of money aren't going to NEED false documents.
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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 12:51 PM by AmericanDaughter
reply to post by Merigold what ya All need to do is get home and take care of business There I kinow you have a history of ruining everything ya touch but it doesn't need to stay that way. It just takes some effort on your part. conservativeoutpost.com... and yes the American admin has almost sent an engraved invite and yes it's easy to get fake documents and yes drivers licenses etc are available to illegal aliens BUT We The People are getting fed up Beware [edit on 5-11-2009 by AmericanDaughter] [edit on 5-11-2009 by AmericanDaughter]
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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 02:56 PM by Anti-Evil
we all know what needs to be done, we just have to do it... thats the problem. and yes, we need to close the borders before they change our language to Spanish. I have objected at least 5 times already... they just keep purposing Spanish this Spanish that... this is America - English this English that... or theres the border buddy~
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reply posted on 5-11-2009 @ 07:02 PM by Night Star
Originally posted by Merigold reply to post by Night Star I'd venture to guess that MOSt illegals don't have any false documents. I know I didn't! Pre 9/11 it was very easy to get legitimate documents. Someone who is looking to hire cheap labor isn't going to request a SS card. Ergo the majority of illegas who come from countries in which 3 dollars an hour is a lot of money aren't going to NEED false documents. Wow, I have never in my life had an employer not ask for my social security number. Employers are certainly to blame for that. They take advantage of the illegals because they know the illegals won't complain. They will work longer hours and get paid next to nothing for doing it. It only drives the wages down everywhere. There are also the companies who get away with having to pay less by only hiring a certain amount of people, but those people are expected to do the job of two people. We cannot have double standards where America helps illegals and not their own citizens. There are families living in tent cities even in colder climates. We have snow here, sometimes a blizzard. How will these people make it? We have sick people who cannot afford their medicines. We have many, many poor people without a roof over their head, no heat in the colder months. Sometimes you see in the newspaper where an elderly person died because they couldn't afford their heat. And all we hear about are other countries and their poor, like ours don't exist. They do exist and they should not be ignored by their own country. Neither should the poor of any country. Each country is responsible for their people. As it stands right now, our children will inherit America's debt and will suffer for it. Many are already suffering.
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reply posted on 7-11-2009 @ 12:22 AM by subfab
Originally posted by A52FWY reply to post by subfab You have a rational right to health care, of course, but not an irrational right to it. It goes back to the loaf of bread split equally among the whole society, you don't get much. It's free but you don't get a useful amount. But where is the fair trade? If you you say those that play by the rules must support those that don't, something is wrong. Health care costs money, and you must doing something in trade for it. This is fair. Doing nothing and expecting something is not fair and is an irrational expectation. I prefer the freedom to try to do what I can to better myself. I do not want to listen to the likes of eco marxist Al Gore lying about carbon dioxide, and then sitting at home in the dark and waiting for death. As I posted here before there is technology that could scrub the CO2 out of the atmosphere if CO2 is really a problem. Cap and trade is a joke if China and India don't do it. To handicp the whole economy over this false issue is a crime, it is fraud. The eco marxist of course wants economic growth to stop to save the world, so truth does not matter. The Mexicans choose to come to the USA not Cuba, however they may sneak into Cuba too, but I haven't read about it. I assume they come to the US to make money and send it home, and therefore better themselves. i see your point. most people "imigrants" do work and contribute to the system. there are some who don't. i can't see turning someone away when they need medical help. can an ambulance driver decide not to care for someone just because of their immigration status? i don't think they can. i do agree with you that anyone seeking health care should at some point contribute back into the system. -subfab
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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 11:01 AM by AmericanDaughter
reply to post by subfab HUGE difference from immigrants and ILLEGAL ALIENS that are happy as a hog in slop stealing our jobs and resourses this is war for them and an easy take over (So Far that is) with d.c's invitation ever hear of la raza www.nclr.org... mecha www.mayorno.com... www.calstatela.edu... check it out; key numbers resulting from illegal immigration in the United States.: www.immigrationcounters.com... arizona rest area: www.snopes.com... take action: capwiz.com... www.numbersusa.com... here's a congressional switchboard 800 number: 1 800 828 0498 Beware illegal aliens; the sleeping giant is waking up and your days are numbered.
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reply posted on 8-11-2009 @ 07:10 PM by Night Star
AmericanDaughter, I just took a look at the Immigration counters link you provided. WOW! Here is just some of the listings. The numbers were jumping so high so quickly so it will be much higher than what I have listed here. Illegal immigrants in country:22,463,542 Money wired to Mexico since 2006: 41,677,400,917 Money wired to latin America since 01: 332,836,350,433 Cost of social services to illegals: 397,479,605,819 Cost of Incarcerations Since 2001: $1,473,729,898 Skilled Jobs Taken by Illegal Immigrants: 11,321,760
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