Originally posted by asen_y2k

Originally posted by JJay55

Originally posted by asen_y2k
And also I heard people say that vehicles were used to spray some type of aerosol throughout the city. Not 100% sure about this fact, but they say they saw it.

Nerve gas?

You are joking right?? Must be some kind of disinfectant.

If you consider the possibility of a weaponized virus being created in Ukraine to have merit - then spraying it around and calling it disinfectant sounds like an easy way to maximize the rate of infection.

I really don't see how it can be politically motivated, at least not fully. If that's the case than all the people being scared out of their minds will lynch whoever is in charge now and ruin their plans real fast when they find out. Just ridiculous to try and scare an entire country let alone the world just to postpone elections. I wouldn't have put this past the US but idk maybe another country would do it to but I'm doubtful of this.

If this was potically motivated; this is just very tastless. We have a swine flu pandemic going on globally. You are right about scaring a whole country and the world.

Dear ATS members,

I read ATS usually at the Global Meltdown part, but I noticed this thread,
and let me give YOu some infor frome the field.

I live in city of Lviv, 1mln of inhabitants, a capital of one of 3 "most infected regions". Frankly speaking is still can not make up my own mind -
whats going.
Our prime minister just 20 min ago said that we have only 14 cases of "California H1N1" confirmed. And ask no one to panic, just wear masks ,etc, etc.

On the other hand - my mother, who is the member of city council a night before got ans SMS from her colleage asking to close the window in the night, because they will spray somth in the air. One and a half days later
all this spraying is denied. I ask my self WTF?

I also have part time doctor in the company which I run, he said that has a friend working in department called "medicine of catastrophy", not sure if tralsated it correctly. Anyway this doctor was transporting first victim from Chervonograd district of Lviv region. He said they didnt see anything like this before. A guy got high tempreture, 40 or more, His lounges got infected very strange way - demolishing cells extremly fast, and by the evening he has died, or as he said "simply burned down".

THe doctors were quite freaked out.

What interests me is that this started in the Western provinces of Ukraine. Who lives in the western provinces? Real Ukrainians. Who lives in the eastern provinces? Ethnic Russians.

Again it reads like a deliberate release of a disease with genocidal intent. If the real Ukrainians perish in great numbers, then the ethnic Russians gain more power and the Kremlin is one step closer to the Anschluss of Ukraine back into the new Russian empire.

I am remembering what the Russians tried to do in poisoning the then leader of the Ukrainians before he entered into office after the disputed elections. I remember those days vividly.

Originally posted by former_ussr
Dear ATS members,

I read ATS usually at the Global Meltdown part, but I noticed this thread,
and let me give YOu some infor frome the field.

I live in city of Lviv, 1mln of inhabitants, a capital of one of 3 "most infected regions". Frankly speaking is still can not make up my own mind -
whats going.
Our prime minister just 20 min ago said that we have only 14 cases of "California H1N1" confirmed. And ask no one to panic, just wear masks ,etc, etc.

On the other hand - my mother, who is the member of city council a night before got ans SMS from her colleage asking to close the window in the night, because they will spray somth in the air. One and a half days later
all this spraying is denied. I ask my self WTF?

I also have part time doctor in the company which I run, he said that has a friend working in department called "medicine of catastrophy", not sure if tralsated it correctly. Anyway this doctor was transporting first victim from Chervonograd district of Lviv region. He said they didnt see anything like this before. A guy got high tempreture, 40 or more, His lounges got infected very strange way - demolishing cells extremly fast, and by the evening he has died, or as he said "simply burned down".

THe doctors were quite freaked out.

Former, thank you for this info!

If we have two people at ground zero this will help everyone know what is going on. Please keep us updated and help out Asen if you are able. You guys can work together to keep each other safe if need be. Keep us updated please.

It's worth considering that just because rapid tests weren't positive for type A influenza, that doesn't absolutely mean that the more extensive tests - the results of which won't be known for a week or so at minimum - won't indicate H1N1 or some other strain of influenza. People underestimate just how lethal influenza can be; even normal, seasonal flu. The flu kills people, and people don't take it seriously enough in my opinion. I admit that the number of reported deaths is startling, as is the lack of a firm diagnosis as of yet, but so far we really don't know anything for certain.