Originally posted by Donkey_Dean
reply to post by HunkaHunka
IT'S H1N1, ANYTHING THAT SAYS OTHERWISE SHOULD BE DISCRETTED AS PROPOGANDA. PLEASE SEE MY POST ABOVE, I KNOW ITS LONG BUT IT IS IMPORTANT!
You are making wild assertions based on your own theories. The sources in Ukraine are stating it is 'unknown' - and I think that is how it should
remain until there is increased evidence to support an alternative theory.
What I would like to also make people think about is the following;
That it is entirely possible that there are two diseases effecting the Ukrainian population, and the statistics are getting mixed together.
They say there are some 92,000 infected with something that gives flu like symptoms. Let's assume that this is H1N1 - they also have people dieing
quickly within 2 days or so, who have blood in their lungs - is it N1N1, or something else?
My speculative conclusions on this are as follows;
The swine flu is in Ukraine, having the same level of impact it has had in the rest of the world - its quite serious - but it doesn't appear to be
extremely fatal, though it may have a far greater mortality rate than the quoted percentage.
Let us then assume that the there is both swine flu, and another disease (lets call it either a viral or infectious disease we can call "pneumonic
plague". There appears to be some evidence to substantiate that idea.
Now, if my theory is an accurate model, then the quoted 92,000 infected, and the deaths reported can be entirely unrelated.
So we really can't estimate the mortality rate of the pneumonic plague - perhaps it is 100%? Perhaps everyone who has been infected - is dead or
dying?
The other thing that we can not estimate is the number of people infected by the pneumonic plague - out of the 92,000 infected cases, how many are
pneumonic plague?
At this stage - I would be skeptical about trying to draw conclusions regarding what it is, and what it isn't - I would also be skeptical in trying
to discern either a mortality rate, or infection rate.
If they are dealing with two separate diseases that have similar symptoms, then it is going to be difficult to get accurate reporting.
Its also worth pointing out that the pneemonic plague may be following the swine flu. First you get the swine flu virus, which creates favorable
conditions for the pneumonic plague to grow in your lungs.
My post is simply trying to draw on various posters knowledge, along with quoted sources of evidence.
I feel that H1N1 may be causing more deaths than reported, and that the assertion that 30,000 deaths a year in the US are caused by seasonal flu is
probably not correct.
I also think there is excellent evidence that H1N1 was a weaponized virus, released on purpose - whether as a precursor to this pneumonic plague - or
simply as part of a plan to consolidate political power. If there is a second disease, 'pneumonic plague' - then it follows that it is also a
bioweapon.
Time will tell whether or not there is actually a new killer arising in the Ukraine - I think that people should take some practical steps to protect
themselves, and wait and see what happens.
For myself I will never take the vaccines promoted by TPTB - I may take a pneumonia vaccine though.
Atomic (colloidal) silver, echinacea, garlic, elderberry, apple cider vinegar, sunlight, vitamins D and C, organic whole foods and exercise. All of
those things look like a better alternative than relying on government vaccinations of any type.
[edit on 31-10-2009 by Amagnon]
[edit on 31-10-2009 by Amagnon]
. Have to check into it later, my first thoughts were ..sounds like Mumbo Jumbo but you never know of course 
