You Have Nothing To Fear (**read this thread it may change your life**), page 8

reply to post by Colopatiron

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Forgive me for being jaded, but it doesn't matter what the universe provides when TPTB wont allow you to. I would love to live off the grid and be completely self sustaining. That is indeed my dream life. So no I can't take any peace in in it when I know its out of reach for so many.
I Its easy for you to say to those who are starving, "Just move." but you don't know what the barriers are that are keeping them in their location. It may be all but impossible no matter how desperate they are to relocate.

Originally posted by calstorm
reply to post by Colopatiron

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Forgive me for being jaded, but it doesn't matter what the universe provides when TPTB wont allow you to. I would love to live off the grid and be completely self sustaining. That is indeed my dream life. So no I can't take any peace in in it when I know its out of reach for so many.
I Its easy for you to say to those who are starving, "Just move." but you don't know what the barriers are that are keeping them in their location. It may be all but impossible no matter how desperate they are to relocate.

Let me see if I've got this right ...

You're dream is to live your own life and provide for yourself .. but you're going to sacrifice what would make you happy just because other people are unable to do the same thing?

What does that mean for, ohhh, let’s see, all those people who can’t get out of their wheelchairs who are reading this? What? Too bad for you sucker! You can’t do it!

What about the old and the infirm? Those born with deformities? Those who for whatever reason can’t work and tend a garden and harvest. Well, we‘ll have none of that! OUT with them eh! Cant’ work, cant eat!

With all due respect, IMO, this kind mentality is part of what's wrong with the world today. We live in a 'me, me, me let everybody else fend for themselves' society and then we want to sit around and complain about what's wrong with the world. For some reason, we have forgotten or have become too distracted with our own selves to realize that WE ARE THE WORLD, and each of us is part of it whether we like it or not. It is everybody's responsibility to take care of the youth, weak, and infirm in our communities. That isn't just my opinion. It's how our ancestors have survived and built their tribes and communities for centuries. Respect and honor meant something to our ancestors. Where is that respect and honor today? We desperately need it. No one person, group of people, or country should be expected to take care of everybody on their own. It starts locally in our own communities with us.

Studies have shown that altruism reduces anxiety, stress levels, and depression of the 'giver'. Altruistic people get more out of giving than receiving (which is how we are all programmed today).

Few of us are immune to the frustrations and challenges of daily life—family problems, conflicts at work, illness, stress over money. When we get depressed or anxious, experts may recommend medication and/or therapy. But a newly emerging school of thought suggests that a simple, age-old principle may be part of both the prevention and the cure: Help others to help yourself.

There’s no shortage of research showing that people who give time, money, or support to others are more likely to be happy and satisfied with their lives—and less likely to be depressed. Could helping others be the key to weathering the inevitable storms of life?

These results may seem surprising, especially since our culture tends to associate happiness with getting something. Why should we humans be programmed to respond so positively to giving?

“As Darwin noted, group selection played a strong rule in human evolution. If something like helping benefits the group, it will be associated with pleasure and happiness,” explains Stephen Post, Ph.D., a research professor of bioethics at Case Western Reserve University who co-authored the book Why Good Things Happen to Good Peoplewith Jill Neimark.

While evolution may have primed us to feel good from giving, it may not be the only reason helping others makes us feel better. Since depression, anxiety, and stress involve a high degree of focus on the self, focusing on the needs of others literally helps shift our thinking.

“When you’re experiencing compassion, benevolence, and kindness, they push aside the negative emotions,” says Post. “One of the best ways to overcome stress is to do something to help someone else.”

Even better, feeling good and doing good can combine to create a positive feedback loop, where doing good helps us to feel good and feeling good also makes us more likely to do good.

Do Good To Feel Good

[edit on 30-10-2009 by gazerstar]

Originally posted by gazerstar
reply to post by Colopatiron

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Just this spring, I planted my own fruit, berry, and nut orchard on the land behind my house. I planted apples, plums, peaches, apple pears, cherries, pecan, walnut, and almond trees. I planted strawberries, and raspberry, blackberry, and blueberry bushes. Next Spring, I'm going to build a huge platform and plant grapes.

Wow! How much did that cost you if you don't mind me asking?

reply to post by Colopatiron

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You Will Never Starve
Absolute statements require absolute proof. I mean, neither you nor anyone else for that matter can promise me that I will never starve to death. Also, while growing your own food is good advice and commendable not every human being on this earth will be able to do so. About the starving people right now, the only thing that will help in the long run is a radical redistribution of wealth. For example, in the EU we have surplus of food that gets destroyed or dumped and buried in land fills. This happens in order to keep the prizes stable. If we made that food available to starving nations, a lot of people could be saved.

You Will Never Go Without Some Form Of Shelter
True, but again not every one will be able to do it.

There Are Breakthroughs Going On In Cheap Energy
Well, solar power panels aint cheap and wind turbines aint cheap either, though a skilled do-it-yourself kind of person could build one fairly cheap, at least cheaper than buying a ready one.

Mankind Is Highly Intelligent
Yes, we are brilliant. We have not only managed to survive all these millions of years, but we got smarter all throughout our evolution. I don't give much for the example you cited, like the pyramids aligned according to the Orion belt, well, it's a nice claim, but still disputable and certainly not accepted for whatever reasons by mainstream Egyptoligists.

Don't Forget The Progression Of Mankind

The earth is a round planet. The center of a round planet is deep inside at the core. You are talking about the center of landmasses on the earth mantle. Again, you can take any point on planet Earth and declare it to be the center of the planet. Furthermore, I thought Jerusalem was the center of the earth mantle. Just kidding, I don't buy that Judeo-Christian nonsense either.

On the topic of aliens, I believe that the universe is teaming with life. Some may or may have not already visited us. I personally doubt the latter, simply because the distances are really vast and an alien civilisation would have woundrous science-fiction technology to get here.

Man Is Meant To Live At Least 120 Years
Well, no man is meant to live at most 120-130 years. But that point will become moot when science discovers Clinical Immortality, i.e. a way to keep you alive for ever. The problem will then unfortunately become unmanagable as far as food and starvation is concerned.

Everything You Need To Cure Your Sickness Is Provided On This Earth
Hm, yeah, great, all I need to not cure my illnesses (because they are of the chronic kind and thus not cureable ever), but to be able to live with them, is a trip to my local doctors and to the local pharmacy. I'm certainly not gonna suddenly become a botanoligist to learn what herbs are good for what. I know a few basic ones and that's just enough. Besides, nobody can convince me that there are viable herbal alternatives to the medication I am taking right now.

Wealth Is Creativity
I'm not a believer, but for all believing Christians I'll just quote Jesus here: “You cannot love and serve two lords. You are either with the Father or with Mammon (the good of wealth).”Something like that paraphrased and not an exact quote. And yeah, I used to be very creative for a while, but creativity doesn't get you rich fast. And about writing books, I could, but I am retired so what's the point. But I would certainly not write pseudo-science books and try to get filthy rich that way or through any other get-rich-fast-scam.

People are highly nutrient deficient! But there is help!

Ok, Nostradamus and the Plague and Vitamic C? Maybe the Vitamin C was just a placebo effect. I'm surprised you did not know that the Plague was introduced by rats though. Not a European are you?

to be continued below

reply to post by Colopatiron

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Oh, and with all that food for free, energy for free, shelter for free, I'm surprised you did not include the “wonderplant” hemp (the industrial one not the medical one). I say that because I have a friend who spouts similar opinions as you, but he always ties it in with hemp. And no it's not a wonderplant, a grow this kind of crop and solve all world problems of starvation, energy and shelter for free along the way. Great huh? I think the only thing free in this live is death and I am not so sure about that either. Everything else is not for free as in free of charge. When you grow your own food, you need first to invest in land and then invest a lot of energy and tough labor to make it work. Energy the same thing, huge investment upfront and there are countries that regulate energy in a strange way. There was this example here in Hellas (Greece), where this guy had built his own wind tourbines and had surplus energy and he wanted to feed it into the national power network and he got into a lot of trouble. Basically, if I remember correct in the end the power company offered to take his surplus power, if he agreed to become their customer with reduced prices or some such. Needless to say, he didn't take that deal.

reply to post by silo13

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Colopatiron is right about the plague. Bacteria and viruses, after all, do not cause disease. They are the agent that disease works through. They may be a corollary, but science has a tendency to see corollaries as causations. Bacteria and viruses are always present in the body. Probably several hundred types of "disease-causing bacteria" in my body right now, but none of them can find purchase. This fancily-named bacteria that you mentioned would have no effect on society no matter how many people were carriers, so long as all the people had adequate defenses. Something like 90% of all ground commercial beef in the U.S. has E. coli in it, but 90% of beef-eaters aren't barfing. This is because of the immune system. Vitamin C is one of the main components of the immune system, so it's very likely as a candidate for "Cause" of the Plague. The bacteria you mentioned is just an ever-present feature of the environment.

In other words, guns don't kill people, standing in front of flying bullets kills people.

[edit on 30-10-2009 by IceOwl]

reply to post by Fingersoup

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I don't have an exact number, but it was surprisingly affordable. I decided that instead of wasting money on frivolous and impulse shopping buying things that I really don't need like clothes, shoes, purses, lotion, manicures, magazines, and just junk in general that clutters up the house, that I would invest that same amount of money into something that would give back like fruit and nut trees, berry bushes, seeds, etc.

I don't know how it is in other areas, but around here fruit trees are CHEAP, especially compared to landscaping trees. I don't know why other than maybe not many people buy fruit trees around here making the demand low thus causing the reduce in price. Also, I didn't buy everything all at once. I shopped around and got stuff from Wal-Mart, Lowes, a farm supply store, some of the local nurseries, etc. I discovered that waiting until it was almost too late to plant was an excellent time to buy because many times the stores drastically reduced the price in order to get rid of left over stock.

On the one hand, I figure that in a SHTF scenario, if the economy completely collapses and our money isn't worth anything, how can it really serve me other than being used as fuel for fire? While the money is still good, I invested in the future and spent it on food resources. On the other hand, even if nothing happens, I've still got my own little backyard, organic, food supply, increased my property value, and given back to the earth by planting trees to help clean the air and offset carbon emissions. The way I see it, it's a win-win situation.

[edit on 30-10-2009 by gazerstar]

Originally posted by loveandthink
Interesting post. I agree with much of what you've said, but am curious why you mentioned twice "people shouldn't have grey hair in their 20s." I know a handful of men who are extremely healthy yet grey early - even starting in high school - and their fathers did as well.

I imagine this lack of pigmentation is a genetic trait - not a nutritional deficiency. What leads you to conclude this is a sign of ill health?

Hair has been pointed out by some to be a close link to your DNA. Battered hair or early gray hair suggests problems with your DNA. There have been articles written on this. This is a fairly modern suggestion, you won't find a whole lot of information on it. Some have said hair is basically dead strands of DNA. DNA test matches are often done from hair. I am no DNA expert.

My basic theory however is you go a long period of time without having gray hair. Some say your body duplicates and starts afresh with new cells throughout your entire body as old cells die off every 2-3 years. Even if it's every 10 years, to think after 20 years you start getting gray hair suddenly very heavily? It just doesn't make sense to think it's a trait because of how delayed it is.

Another person mentioned that a lot of things people attribute to genetics are in fact environmental. You get early gray, you go bald early, you are more inclined to obesity not because you got "the family gene" but because you are in the same family structure. You eat the same foods and are subjected to the same nutrient deficiencies and toxicity.

I really do think cigerette smoke including 2nd hand smoke contributes dramatically to the rise in premature gray hair. I believe it does rob the body of it's ability to fully utilize it's oxygen which is needed in proper blood flow and detoxification leading to weaker DNA. I've studied blood flow and the main things required are oxygen and water. If you have high blood pressure, you first need to increase your oxygen level and your water intake. If you drink coffee and smoke, suddenly you have slowed down your blood flow! Throw in some blood cholesterol (meat) to clump the cells together that do move and it's even slower blood flow! Throw in a high salt intake too! This all while having a normal looking body I think weighs on ones hair. I think blood flow to the brain is somewhat of a unique thing. Many have grey hair on their head but not on their stomach, arms or elsewhere. I think it's almost blood pressure related. It appears you need even better blood flow to adequately get the proper amount of blood to flow to your head. Which is why many people with gray hair probably suffer from dizzy light headed spells and possibly even stress bumps on their head.

Don't smoke when you're pregnant, why because it's effects on your DNA and the babies DNA and growth? It's something nobody really explores.

Just a quick google search shows others out there agree, many from first hand experiences...
www.google.com...

Did your friend grow up around someone who smoked, have dizzy light head spells, blood pressure issues, stress related issues?

[edit on 30-10-2009 by Colopatiron]

reply to post by Boom Slice

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Would this be better? I'm sorry. I just HAD to post this after reading that. You have to admit. It is funny. I wish my life were this easy too, but I'm a 'realist'. It will never happen, but that's okay. I'm over it. Darn that hard work!



Oops! Wrong video. I fixed it. Sorry about that.

[edit on 30-10-2009 by gazerstar]

Originally posted by Colopatiron
You Will Never Starve
Every time you see a starving child, starving mother on television and are asked to donate money, have a look around. You will see grass growing, trees growing, vegetation. Throughout the history of the world, humans have grown their own food freely, yes FOOD IS FREE. If it doesn't grow, people have relocated miles to where it does grow. Walking across miles and miles of land, no cars! Research this, food grows everywhere, there are many plants that are edible. Believe it or not, berries grow in the wild! Believe it or not you can grow your food in absolute abundance to a point that you have to throw some of it away or give it away, freeze it, or not eat it! HERE IS THE FIRST KEY. THE UNIVERSE PROVIDES FOR YOU IN GREAT ABUNDANCE. YOU WILL NEVER STARVE. [edit on 29-10-2009 by Colopatiron]

Is that you?


Food isn't free and much of Africa suffers from severe water shortages. It costs money to buy land and raise crops. If you don't have land, you buy food from those who do. You buy it with MONEY! You can't survive eating wild berries unless you like getting rickets. Also, if you sneak onto my property to start digging through my trash or eating insects off my driveway, I will have to shoot you.

Do you want people in New York to start ripping up the sidewalks to plant food and tell their landlords that shelter is free? You try it and please get it on tape.

Originally posted by Colopatiron
You Will Never Go Without Some Form Of Shelter
Throughout history mankind has built their houses with wood, yes FREE WOOD. If you don't have wood, you could use mud depending on the part of the world you live in. Even if everything collapsed around you in a complete economic meltdown! SHELTER IS FREE. I know you have been programmed to think you need $100,000 or more to buy a home to have shelter, this is false. IT IS FREE.
[edit on 29-10-2009 by Colopatiron]

Wood is not free. You chop down trees on someone's property, you will be sued for trespassing and destruction of property. The same is true if you do so on public land as well.

Shelter isn't free. You must own or rent land to live on. You can't squat on public property either. The city will send in the cops to beat and arrest you. I don't know what kind of Disneyland world you live in but it's not real life. Please stop taking drugs. You are killing your brain!




[edit on 30-10-2009 by andrewh7]

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