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The Clone Conspiracy: Royal and Presidential Clones

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posted on Jan, 11 2010 @ 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by Getsmart

This looks very much like a flying snake, which might explain the ancient religions in Latin America where the Snake Gods came down from heaven, as did the Biblical Serpent. This should also be a cause for alarm, as these "Gods" demanded human sacrifices, including the sacrifice of the most beautiful and the most treasured.

I think the 'serpent" is/was symbolic of the Reptilians. The Draconians are the ones who demand human sacrifices, etc. Not all ET's are dark, though. So, those guys captured on film might be here to support us against the dark ones.


If this is still today a "requirement" of Alien visitors to Earth, we may assume that such sacrifices do indeed occur for these very same reasons, privy to them and unknown to us lesser mortals.

Some say the blood helps the Dracs hold their human form. It may also be be a way to terrorize humans, making them easier to control. Fear will lower the energy, making it more comfortable for them, perhaps.


Here is another video which, added to the above information, seems less like the rant and rave of a deranged mind than a very disturbed eyewitness account of human sacrifice by "inhuman humans" if she is to be believed.

Seems like this woman has seen what Arizona Wilder & others have talked about - ritual human sacrifice & the eating of human flesh. I can understand her being upset!


Today we no longer equate the Serpent with hidden knowledge as in the Garden of Eden, but there are those who maintain that various governments and namely the USA entered into secret agreements with Alien beings in exchange for advanced technology. What other than the Snake's intelligence is this? Did the American Military Industrial Complex take a bite in the proverbial APPLE of biblical renown? It appears that they have and that we are now being cast down.

Yes, but it seems that Germany was the 1st to grab the apple that was dangled in front of them. But yeah, some claim USA has also entered into agreements w/ dark ET's in exchange for technology.




posted on Jan, 13 2010 @ 12:20 AM
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CIA and NSA Connections to Clone Conspiracy


While up to this date we have noted that there is a strong likelihood of direct complicity of alphabet agencies with cloning of our political leaders, it was unclear which ones may have been most closely involved.


However, it appears that the NSA is right up there as a key identified agency involved in either doing the cloning themselves, organizing the clone mind control projects, or simply supplying the logistics assistance and "handlers" for these Cloned Royals and Presidents which represent the greatest danger to any republic.


There are a number of elements which provide a basis for such an analysis, the intelligence of which can be considered fairly reliable and far from fanciful. This intelligence cross referenced with our research on Cloned Leaders will give us a measure of what is going on.


Two of our above identified Cloned Leaders are connected to the American Intelligence Community, in multiple ways. They could be plausibly argued as being independent in thought, if they had any autonomous thoughts which seems unlikely given that they are mind controlled clones.


Follwing is a report which links Christine Lagarde, the French Finance Minister, and French President Nicolas Sarkozy to the NSA. You will note that Lagarde has been ever so closely connected to the Nazi Continuum movement in the form of the NeoCons, working with Dick Cheney and Zbigniew Brzezinski who are respectively clones of notorious Nazi Heinrich Himmler and of the last King of Poland, the later having himself a cloned twin who today runs the European Central Bank, Jean Claude Trichet.


Dick Cheney and Heinrich Himmler



Cloned Twins Zbigniew Brzezinski and Jean Claude Trichet





World Reports Global Analysis International Intelligence dated September 20, 2008

(5) Christine Lagarde, named by Sarkozy as Minister of Finance, spent most of her career prior to her appointment in the United States, where she directed the firm of Baker and Mckenzie, a direct link into Bush Sr. This woman was also prominent in Vice President Richard Cheney's Center for International and Strategic Studies, the neoconservative (Trotskyite) operation, wherein she co-presided with Zbigniew Brzezinski over a working group supervising the Polish privatisatioms.

Lagarde further orchestrated, Thierry Meyssan reported, an intensive lobbying operation in favour of Lockheed Martin AGAINST the French aircraft manufacturer Dassault.

(6) Alain Bauer, who is in now in charge of French intelligence. This man is a former Grand Master of the French Grand Orient, the primary French Masonic organisation, and was earlier the second in command of the US National Security Agency (NSA) in Europe. French intelligence is accordingly a branch of the George Bush Center for Intelligence and Terrorism, and of its associated clowns at Deutsche Verteidigungs Dienst, Dachau.

In short, the George Bush Center for Intelligence and Terrorism has its jaws locked into the central nodes of French power so that President Nicolas Sarkozy can be considered to be an operational ally or extension of George Bush Sr., and thus a 'reliable' partner for the German 'Black' DVD.

worldreports.org...



We will note that, to overcome his opponents, Ivan IV of Russia deftly played to the people in order to seduce them and thus consolidate his power. This is exactly the same tactic currently being used by his clone to win electoral success while at the same time being one of the most disrespected and even widely despised politicians by the bulk of the educated population.


Ivan the Terrible and Sarkozy Clone



We can also be more seriously attentive to the involvement of the Illuminati, their Intelligence Agencies and Cloned Leaders with the Satanic Luciferan Religion which, as most people know, indulges in the harshest of ritual blood sacrifice of innocent children. It is interesting to note that the Founder of the Church of Satan was inspired by Aleister Crowley. Hitler was initiated and mind controlled by Aleister Crowley. Barbara Bush is Aleister Crowley's daughter, the Illuminazi Elite are Satanists and most of our Cloned Leaders display the satanic hand sign. There is probably an ALIEN invasion behind this Satanic worship of Lucifer, make no mistake about it. If so, the CIA / NSA are thus guilty of high treason to their nation and to the whole of humanity.


Church of Satan Founder Anton Levey and Nicolas Sarkozy



We can also take note that the CIA can may be considered to be another key actor in the Clone Conspiracy, if only by its putting into place and consolidating the power of the current French CLONE President Nicolas Sarkozy. Here is a link to a very revealing political analysis by none other than the same journalist who blew the lid off the 9/11 cover up by first revealing the missing plane at the site of the Pentagone attack.


Operation Sarkozy


While most political analysts and intelligence gatherers will consider this information at face value, some reliable and the rest supposed, we can assume that in the lower echelons it will be only analyzed regarding agency infiltration of political power structures.


However, the Clone Conspiracy gives a far larger scope to the implications of such allegations. Alphabet agencies are not just furthering national security (does anyone still believe that MYTH?) or even their own agency's interest, but are probably disrespectfully used as "sled horses in blinders" to tow the Agenda of the Alien infiltrated Illuminati.


So we are noticing that the German continuum after having become deeply embedded within the United States Secret Government and its Above Top Secret Intelligence Operations, has now extended its power to the second nation in control of the European Collective using for that purpose the Nicolas Sarkozy and Christine Lagarde Clones.


Are these Clones more sophisticated than other forms of controlled entities, mind controlled trauma trained slaves, synthetic robotoids, etc?


We must assume so. They apparently have certain dysfunctions on several levels ranging from extravagant neuroses to firmware glitches. But nonetheless they present at least most of the time sufficient features to fool most of the people most of the time, thanks also to the bought and paid for complicity of the mainstream press.


In any case they present a unique talent for possessing a total absence of any genuine moral structure or human conscience. This is obviously a prerequisite for being a Clone Leader, or more obviously, for being an intelligence operative. Spooks, Spies, Secret Agents are nothing more than Professional Traitors who are taught to lie, deceive, befriend and betray systematically and without regard for human life or higher principles. Today's systematic use of such gravely diminished and subhuman individuals and similarly defective cloned operatives is a very sad testimonial to the great depths to which civilization has fallen.


The above mentioned Operation Stillpoint revealed by Christopher Story intending on building the New World Order on the Ash Heap of the United States of America (text of the Nazi "Madrid Circular" intercepted in the 1940s) points out the ulterior motives kept concealed at the very top of the dangerously hierarchical and autocratic intelligence agencies, which are today's Hermetic Societies perpetrating plots, conspiracies and crimes in full impunity. They have become so above the law as to destroy the rule of Law. Fascism is present through them and is becoming increasingly pervasive throughout society. Whether we like it or not, we have become the rightful heirs of Adolf Hitler's Third Reich, extending its reach globally.



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 07:06 PM
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So we've established the former identities of several british prime ministers. Anything jumping out at you about the next one?

David Cameron; almost certainly PM from May this year:






May give us an insight into what to expect from him, though we already know his party plan to extend the influence of the state to completely unprecedented levels it would be nice to know if he will have a specific way of doing it.



posted on Jan, 14 2010 @ 09:43 PM
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Humanoid Stand-ins of World Leaders - Dr. Peter Beter




This video presents the data of Dr. Peter Beter concerning Robotoids and Rothschild Synthetic Humanoids which he believed and reported through his audio newsletter, had replaced several critical world leaders.

NOTE: In a lecture, available on YouTube, Alex Collier, reknown Contactee, informs his audience to listen to the lectures by Dr. Beter.

However, Mr. Collier informed the listeners that Dr. Beter was misinformed, it was NOT the Russians but Alien Forces infiltrating positions of power throughout the world.

www.youtube.com...



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 06:58 AM
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Originally posted by cheesyleps
So we've established the former identities of several british prime ministers. Anything jumping out at you about the next one?

David Cameron; almost certainly PM from May this year:

May give us an insight into what to expect from him, though we already know his party plan to extend the influence of the state to completely unprecedented levels it would be nice to know if he will have a specific way of doing it.



Hi Cheesyleps, welcome to the Clone Conspiracy !


Thanks for informing us that this individual has been preselected to become the future Prime Minister of Great Britain. This should send up a Red Flag for those following the Royal and Presidential Clone Conspiracy given that we already know that a number of British leaders were sourced from former Kings of England.


So it made it a no-brainer to locate the DNA source for the next model in the Clone Series ruling the UK.


For starters, let's take a look at what a magazine has to say about David Cameron. Interestingly enough it hints at him having a split personality of sorts, and even compares him to Janus which can be learned of here:


Janus


David Cameron as Janus



The Two Faces of David Cameron


Let us take a moment to view the tombs of Alienor of Aquitaine and her british spouse, founder of the Plantagenet Royal Bloodline. All it took was lifting the lids and poking away with a pair of tweezers to get a few cells of tissue for cloning purposes.


Alienor of Aquitaine and Henri Shortmantle



Putting 2 and 2 together we find that David Cameron is indeed JANUS, for he does have both an ancient and modern face. Is he a truely democatic representative constitutional monarchy, or is yet another iteration of disguised Monarchs ruling for the Bloodlines and against the interest of the people which he is purported to represent?


The Two Real Faces of David Cameron



If you wonder what he holds in store for us, he will no doubt be seated on the governmental "throne" in order to establish a dynastic rule, but not of his own descendants but rather of a lineage which remains to be discovered - - is it simply demonic or actually Alien to Earth?


Let us remember that after making him Archbishop of Canterbury, King Henry II had his friend Thomas Becket assassinated by his knights. This treacherous behavior and absence of conscience does not forebode well for his DNA descendant David Cameron. I advise his friends to watch their back once he has access to the executive power to have them disposed of by MI-5.


If we take another look at Henry II of England, we will note that even despite the rudimentary rendition of his traits by engravers who worked several centuries later on his portrait, that there is more than simply a family air about David Cameron.


David Cameron and Henry II of England



There are other renditions of Henry II which differ according to the artist and also due to what traces of his appearance they have used as sources of inspiration. We will note that there are significant similarities regardless of which portrait is examined.


David Cameron the King of Clones



We must seriously ponder on whom these remote controlled brainwashed Clones serve, whether their Masters are human or Alien, these leaders are NOT what they pretend to be, and have infiltrated our democracies and in so doing have become guilty of High Treason for which the penalty in any country is summary execution.


Would I look good with a mustache?



Agents of these nations Intelligence organizations must take stalk of this situation and not fail to remember that their primary duty is to defend their nation against Traitors. The higher up the culprit, the greater peril this places their nation. A foreign power controlling your head of state is an extremely grave situation, and mutiny associated with expeditious action can be a course to be envisaged. You are the last guard of your country, and of humanity.



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posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 08:34 AM
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Thanks, I've been following the topic for a while and it's actually what prompted me to sign up and post. I tend to be quite sceptical but there are some very interesting points being raised and discussed.

Preselected is a very interesting choice of word. Hadn't really thought about that, but I can say that is definitely the way it feels. Since taking the leadership of the Conservative party, the MSM; in particular the BBC, have constantly talked about him being the next PM. I don't think I've ever really heard anyone in the MSM give much countenance to Labour winning the next election.

Cameron's rise to fame coincided with a long period of political apathy on my part and I had never even thought to look at his heritage or background before now. His wikipedia entry has two points that jump out instantly:

"Cameron is a direct descendant of Queen Victoria's uncle and predecessor on the throne, King William IV"



(Can't figure out how to embed images within the post. Been a while since I actively participated in any discussion boards.)

"David Cameron's great-grandfather Arthur Francis Levita (brother of Sir Cecil Levita)[14] of Panmure Gordon stockbrokers and his great-great-grandfather Sir Ewen Cameron, London head of the Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank, played key roles in discussions led by the Rothschilds with the Japanese central banker (later Prime Minister) Takahashi Korekiyo concerning the selling of war bonds during the Russo-Japanese war."

Linking in to the generally accepted idea of NWO planning, population control and "social engineering" does this perhaps cast a new light on the death of his eldest child?

I'm thinking that there has to be a "rationale" to all this interlinking and choice of "ancestry." Are they playing out achetypal roles or is this simply "blue blood" being preserved in the seats of power. It would have been easier to maintain when power was passed in a hereditary manner than in a current 'democratic' age of elected officials as heads of government and heads of state.



posted on Jan, 15 2010 @ 02:37 PM
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I agree w/ most things GetSmart posts, but I have to take issue w/ what he posted about Henry II.


Let us remember that after making him Archbishop of Canterbury, King Henry II had his friend Thomas Becket assassinated by his knights.

i don't think that is what happened. Becket engaged in a power struggle w/ Henry.


Becket's allegiance shifted from the court to the Church inspiring him to take a stand against his king.

The Murder of Thomas Becket, 1170


Becket went into exile in France, where he excommunicated some bishops who pledged allegiance to Henry.


...This news threw King Henry (still in France) into a rage in which he was purported to shout: "What sluggards, what cowards have I brought up in my court, who care nothing for their allegiance to their lord. Who will rid me of this meddlesome priest."

The king's exact words have been lost to history but his outrage inspired four knights to sail to England to rid the realm of this annoying prelate...

The death of Becket unnerved the king. The knights who did the deed to curry the king's favor, fell into disgrace... Four years later, in an act of penance, the king donned a sack-cloth walking barefoot through the streets of Canterbury while eighty monks flogged him with branches. Henry capped his atonement by spending the night in the martyr's crypt...

The Murder of Thomas Becket, 1170


We can thank Henry II for trial by jury, which is a lot better than trial by fire or trial by water.


The modern jury trial evolved out of this custom in the mid 12th century during the reign of Henry II. [1] Juries, usually 6 or 12 men, were an "ancient institution" in some parts of England. ("Henry II" 286)

petit jury



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 07:36 AM
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Hi Someotherguy,


Thanks for lending this historical scubadiver some lead weights to bringing me down to the murky depths of historical reality. Admittedly my venture into the past has been anecdotal and superficial, mostly for the very limited purpose of attempting to identify potential DNA donors for our current or recent cloned leaders. Therefore it stands to reason that the prevailing task of this thread is not to verify or validate history.


So I should have better qualified my overeager response to Cheesylep's inquiry, and after identifying a potential source for David Cameron's DNA it would have been better to refrain from speculating on his potential future behavior which is intrinsically unreliable given that it would be a projection into the future of dubious historical accounts of events from the past.


While can try to identify from whom a given leader may have been cloned, it would be too presumptuous to try to ascertain what exactly may have been intended by the Powers that Be (Illuminati / Alien / Demonic / Alphabet Agencies) in choosing a given donor's clone them for any specific purpose or to incarnate any particular role in contemporary history.


This is due to several unsurmountable difficulties. The first being the accuracy of historical accounts. Revisionism is a practice which pre-dates Western civilization. It is a process of partly or even entirely re-writing history by adding falsehoods, editing out truths, or entirely fabricating events. In addition to these more obvious is the latent or active re-framing of events according to certain logics which are pivotal to the \historian writing the account, but may not have been the motivation or the mindset of the key actors of those event.


The second is the centuries of debate among researchers and later historians who have brought their own vision of history to the table, focused on some parameters rather than others, chosen to read into sequential events certain patterns or recurring motifs. Add to this the debate regarding whose interpretation is the most accurate or the best inspired, and we have a further layer of static noise which makes our knowledge of what actually did transpire at any given time and place subject to so much manipulation that we can be sure of very little indeed.


Finally, due to the wide ranging scope of the current and earlier cloning of important personalities from human history, there are precious few who can claim to have a thorough understanding of all periods and nations without opening themselves to a great deal of dispute. So I shall not make any further such predictions of what behavior the use of the DNA of a given earlier Royal individual could be put to in today's societies. That is, other than a few small generalities which are strikingly present such as in the case of the Hungarian Clone of a Russian Monarch imposed by the CIA as the President of France.


Vintage carved ivory Vs. Cloned animated Flesh



In this instance, there is sufficient evidence of this Cloned Leader's behavior to grant credence to the historical interpretation of Ivan IV of Russia's heritage as an important administrative reformer (Sarkozy has painfully reorganized France's hospital system, Judicial system) and added burgeoning totalitarian fascism to its emerging video surveillance and police state apparatus worthy of a tyrannical Ivan the Terrible.


Minion of Satan running France Vs. God's envoy to Russia



It is said of Ivan that (pls. address any dispute to the original source of this statement)...


At a very early age he entertained an exalted idea of his own divine authority, and his studies were largely devoted to searching in the Scriptures and the Slavonic chronicles for sanctions and precedents for the exercise and development of his right divine.

NNDB of Ivan the Terrible



While Ivan IV was mystically called to being animated by "God" as his divine representative in Russia, from his hand signs we will easily learn that Nicolas Sarkozy aspires to be animated by "Satan" as his demonic representative in France, his will being totally submitted to the hellish power and demonic intent of Lucifer.


We can therefore wonder why the Alphabet Agencies, in this instance namely the CIA as a tool for the Satanist Illuminati, created a satanically manipulated Clone to take over France in a surreptitious foreign Coup d'Etat having one of their cloned agents put into place as Head of State.


* Please note: the following description of the above source which is wholly responsible for what information they choose to publish.


NNDB is an intelligence aggregator that tracks the activities of people we have determined to be noteworthy, both living and dead. Superficially, it seems much like a "Who's Who" where a noted person's curriculum vitae is available (the usual information such as date of birth, a biography, and other essential facts.)

But it mostly exists to document the connections between people, many of which are not always obvious. A person's otherwise inexplicable behavior is often understood by examining the crowd that person has been associating with.

Eventually, we will have synopses and analyses of creative works by the people in the database, including their books, films, and recordings.


NNDB Mapper



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 02:12 PM
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Hi, Getsmart,


Originally posted by Getsmart
While can try to identify from whom a given leader may have been cloned, it would be too presumptuous to try to ascertain what exactly may have been intended by the Powers that Be (Illuminati / Alien / Demonic / Alphabet Agencies) in choosing a given donor's clone them for any specific purpose or to incarnate any particular role in contemporary history.


My personal opinion about Henry II is that he felt a lot of responsibility towards the people, & tried to be a good & just ruler. It is entirely possible that some interests have harvested his DNA for their own purposes. If "they" bring a Henry Plantagenet clone to life, it won't be inhabited by the same soul, if any soul. The clone may have any mind installed in it, & be programmed to do whatever "they" want. This clone may very well resonate with the people, who have a collective unconscious memory of the good king, & look to him to lead them into a better life. In that way, the Henry clone could manipulate the masses into doing what "they" want.

Just one possible angle.



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by cheesyleps
So we've established the former identities of several british prime ministers. Anything jumping out at you about the next one?

David Cameron; almost certainly PM from May this year...

May give us an insight into what to expect from him, though we already know his party plan to extend the influence of the state to completely unprecedented levels it would be nice to know if he will have a specific way of doing it.



Dear Cheesyleps.


Given the potential failings of my previous reply to your post, here are some more reliable comments about what you might expect from your future British Prime Minister.


David Cameron does show significant signs of early ageing, for a man said to be born in 1966. Some will say it is due to the stress of political strife, but others may see signs of accelerated ageing due to cloning. But aside from this superficial observation about his state of physical preservation, we can find some very empirical factual evidence that David Cameron has been preselected to be your next leader.


According to the NNDB database, here are some interesting aspects about this thoroughbred's pedigree which is not limited to having Royal Bloodline DNA. He is member of the White's Club, in good company if you don't mind cross-dressing satanist toilet collectors, along with Prince Charles the heir to the throne of England.


The White's Club


Here is what he told one of the mainstream newspaper "The Times" about his membership in that club:


"The truth is my father was chairman and the only thing I really do there is, I go and have lunch with him. I don't believe we have to have a country where you can't have independent organisations deciding what they want to be."

David Cameron's Choice of Clubs



We will note from his declaration that his father was well placed to be the adoptive educator for their Clone project, with his alleged son David to be destined to the highest glory as the British ruling Elite's Premier Clone.


Beyond sidetracking public opinion with the depraved reputation of the Bullingdong club to which David Cameron belongs, the Guardian mentions that he is also an eminent member of the exclusive Carlton Club.


Carlton Club Roster


We cannot fail to note that he was also incidentally appointed Director for Corporate Affairs of Carlton Communications which sells its address list as lobbyists. Is there a CIA connection evoked by their website imagery showing the White House and the Washington Capitol?


Carlton Communication


Beyond the likely US Intelligence connection and their Illuminati matrix of corrupt American Politicians presented as so many promotional items, said Director of Corporate Affairs (a preposterous title which demonstrates only that he's on the payroll without delivering any real work) was also on the Board of Directors of Urbium PLC.


Urbium PLC


This carries the appearance of a simple holding company which manages chains of bars and nightclubs... until you take into account the role of such commerces in the night life of a nation. In most older countries, bars and nightclubs are either structurally part of, or at least associated with and racketed by the MOB. This illustrates that David Cameron, beyond his Cloned Royal heritage, his Elitist social network, his CIA linked lobbying activities, his degenerate Bollingdon behavior, is quite likely also an active participant in organized crime and drug distribution in the UK. Such a similar profile to Bill Clinton predisposes him as an obvious front runner for an Illuminati Cloned Stooge posing as legitimately elected Prime Minister.


Bill Clinton's Criminal Background


What is more alarming is not that such bloody satanist power Elites exist and use Cloned Leaders as their puppet governments. It is the even more preposterous and indefensible position of their hired henchmen of MI-5 or MI-6 denomination who pledge allegiance to their nation yet betray their oath and dishonor their country by knowing in whole or in part the extent of the deep set corruption within their governing institutions, the degree of betrayal of politicians and key personalities, yet who tolerate and by their conspicuous cowardice encourage with passive complicity such forms of subversion of British society.


Let it be clear that this is not a message destined exclusively to those in these agencies who have retained residual human character, it is equally valid not only for those in the UK but also for those in similar agencies worldwide. For the instrumentation of power by secret governments is an international emergency, so duplicitous and embedded that even a cold war communist plot would be innocuous in comparison. The class of intermediate directors and managers of these organizations must take stalk and engage with prudence but determination sufficient measures to show them on the side of those struggling for Good rather than Evil, regardless of their past record.


Or should they wait until history unfolds at their expense, when they were not the instigators but only followers? The writing is on the wall and many would do well to heed the signs of destiny.






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posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 03:45 PM
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Originally posted by someotherguy
My personal opinion about Henry II is that he felt a lot of responsibility towards the people, & tried to be a good & just ruler. It is entirely possible that some interests have harvested his DNA for their own purposes. If "they" bring a Henry Plantagenet clone to life, it won't be inhabited by the same soul, if any soul. The clone may have any mind installed in it, & be programmed to do whatever "they" want. This clone may very well resonate with the people, who have a collective unconscious memory of the good king, & look to him to lead them into a better life. In that way, the Henry clone could manipulate the masses into doing what "they" want...


Hi Someotherguy,


There is definitely a mystery which remains to be solved regarding the practical reasons for choosing a given individual of a given bloodline to assume a given role as a current Cloned Leader. Here a few possibilities for starters.


1. There are residual elements of trace memory transferred to one's DNA making its resuscitation in a Clone gifted with certain proprietary characteristics which are tributary the the life of the deceased donor ?

2. DNA has a connection to the spirit or soul of the previous individual whose body has been cloned, ensuring some forms of assistance or appeals to psychic forces which garner them greater success and power ?

3. Certain DNA tends to reassure those who commission a Clone, just like a travel trunk made by Louis Vuitton will encourage a client to pay far more than a no brand item: Royal Clones would thus be Premium Clones commanding a far higher price ?

4. Certain convictions or loyalties penetrate one's DNA which when cloned will perpetuate themselves in the genetic descendant. For this reason a highly nationalistic former King who founded a dynasty will be more reliable when confronted with international pressures granting a measure of prior control in addition to the usual brainwashing and mind control systematically exerted on Cloned Leaders ?

5. Royal Bloodlines harbor a genetic makeup which makes those with such a gene pool far more susceptible to schizophrenia and demonic possession. This would peg them as prime candidates for demonic mind control by satanic Illuminati agents ?

6. The Illuminati Royals cannot stand the idea of anything but their own bloodlines ruling the world in all areas of importance, from politics to show business. Therefore they are gradually imposing a monopoly of such positions exclusively for themselves or their Cloned Royal emanations ?

7. There is a collective unconscious which creates a programmed response in populations and grants the cloned reproductions of former Royals or Emperors an unconscious obedience by the masses and produces reactions ranging from cult following to submissive courtship ?

8. There were in the past DNA samples taken from ancient Royals by Alien visitors (see the alien abduction threads here on ATS) which brought said Aliens to create a gamut of Clones obeying their will and facilitating their invasion of Earth.

9. Alien visitors may have clones contemporary rulers at different times in our history, keeping them safely locked away for potential use for a takeover of Earth in their Alien Invasion. They would have simply replaced our Kings or Emperors with their clone. Possibly this was already done upon several occasions in the past, of which we were not informed. Secret human organizations may have discovered these clones, and activated them to server their own lowly purposes to create their very own totalitarian New World Order.

10. Your guess is as good as mine...


There is distinctly an unseen aspect to the use of Royal bloodlines beyond the fact that their use has been kept hidden from us. This has more trait to the spiritual, psychological and experiential aspects of our existence than to more readily analyzed and verified compilations of factoids.


In parallel to revealing the extent and pervasiveness of cloning among the community of Earth's leaders, and in addition to sensitizing public opinion to the fact that most international summits are nothing more than mere Clone Conventions for mind controlled marionettes, we should further investigate the underlying mechanisms behind using Clones and work at establishing who is pulling their strings.



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posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by someotherguy
Humanoid Stand-ins of World Leaders - Dr. Peter Beter




Someotherguy,


This audio letter is not as outdated as it first appears. With the information today at our disposal we can understand that there are many correlated facts which support his statements. Examination of photographic records clearly show the replacement of Carter and Brezhnev, and we have only just recently had evidence of the geophysical warfare he mentions at minute 8:00 of the recording "Humanoid Stand-ins of World Leaders".


There are multiple intelligence reports that the Haiti "earthquake" was a provoked event perpetrated by CIA subcontractors for geophysical warfare blackmail purposes and an international aid Rescue Fund sting operation.


Obama helps Clinton and Bush Steak Haiti Aid


It appears that a number of matters in current events are related, but exactly how and why is harder to establish. We already know of the involvement of certain alphabet agencies and child abduction for ritual abuse purposes by Illuminati satanists. They are also linked at minimum to the cover up and more likely directly involved in implementing the cloning of leaders and media celebrities as well as operating their mental conditioning and control. We also know that said agencies have had geophysical warfare capabilities for over thirty years, and have amply tested them in various parts of the globe.


But what needs to be further clarified is the extent of an Alien involvement either directly with these agencies, or indirectly through hermetic orders and secret societies which are part of the Illuminati Sect. The relationship between such an Alien invasion or occupation of Earth and Satanism must also be clarified to determine whether Lucifer is just another mind control conditioning of our Elites to serve them as their master, or if it has any other reason less evident reason for existing.


There are some common threads in what has been going on over the past century, spanning nations and generations.


One hundred years ago Aleister Crowley from the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn spawned satanism and trained Adolf Hitler in his occult lore. Today his daughter Barbara Bush is managing the family affairs with CIA husband George H.W. Bush and son.


The British and American eugenics movement of the early decades of the twentieth century strove to establish a pure race of thoroughbred beings. Hitler went on to further such Master Race research through scientific experimentation on genetic organs as well as twins, while mechanically purifying the race by killing off those deemed less desirable. Today genetically targeted bio-weapons are militarily engineered and secretly used to exterminate specific ethic groups by disease and contamination. Geneticists are offering "designer babies" in a rush to be first on the clone burgeoning clone market.


Bridges existed for centuries between spying, political intrigue and secret societies. Aleister Crowley was British military intelligence operative and honorary highest degree member of most secret societies in existence. Today his daughter is married and is mother to Skull & Bones members, as well as the current DE FACTO head of the CIA created as a criminal organization above the law.


The Nazis rose to power through criminal gangster methods such as blackmail, corruption and murder. Today these very same methods are the underpinning of the Bush Box Gang. Hitler used false flag attacks to increase his power, the Bushes as well during 9/11 and subsequent WMD.


The Bolsheviks and the Nazis brainwashed their populations through mass propaganda which has been professionalized today in centrally controlled global mass media empires and brain numbing edutainment. Populations have been purposely dumbed down and their food and water supplies drugged if not poisoned. Nothing has changed, the same people and Modus Operandi are as active today as they were over a century ago.


The Nazis mounted expeditions to the archeological sites of many ancient civilizations and had found enough vestiges to engage in their own Hannebu projects to build flying saucers. These same teams transferred over to the USA founding the NASA which sort of sounds alike, a home away from home to further secret space exploration. This process has continued uninterrupted to this day with just about everything covered up. Even the ancient sites in Iraq have been bombed, those in Egypt banned and placed off limits, those in Tibet clamped down by Chinese accomplices.


Crowley encountered a dimensional "being" he called LAM which he associated with Satan. He looked surprisingly like a Grey Alien. Hitler said been to underground tunnels where he met a Master Race of superior beings. These were NOT of German stock. But he hoodwinked his population into thinking that THEY were that superior race, to turn them into the willing accomplices of an Alien Agenda. Today the CIA and their Illuminati pals are likewise hoodwinked into believing they are going to survive the takeover. Just like the Germans were abandoned and betrayed, their own turn will also come. Any Secret Government alliance with Aliens on Earth, such as that of MJ-12 in the Eisenhower days, is doomed in more ways than one.


There has been a plutocracy running the world for centuries, with a game of musical chairs played between the same bloodlines to see who'd get their turn in roasting us over the coals. This has continued to this day with a total subversion of democracy and republics by secret societies such as freemasonry assisting the Illuminati Alien domination agenda.


In summary, what can be seen as continuous is an Alien domination using a Satanic bloodline religion with complicities in Secret Societies and Intelligence Agencies to further total control over the Earth's populations by creating a technological prison hidden behind its public relations name "The New World Order".


Some of the puppet strings, which are so thick that we can't ignore them, are the creation of Cloned Royal or Imperial rulers used as remote controlled instruments to wield their power over us, the systematic lying and falsehood which has created a mantle of fiction which most people have come to mistake for factual reality, and sick efforts to reduce demographics.



posted on Jan, 19 2010 @ 07:55 PM
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I just cannot except the Idea that Medical Science has gone from sucessfully Cloning a Sheep to Cloning a Human Being in less than 13 years . Can someone here enlighten to the fact that I may be mistaken ? Where is the Proof ? .........



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 05:50 AM
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Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
I just cannot except the Idea that Medical Science has gone from sucessfully Cloning a Sheep to Cloning a Human Being in less than 13 years . Can someone here enlighten to the fact that I may be mistaken ? Where is the Proof ? .........


According to Stewart Swerdlow, the 1st cloned human was in Germany in 1927. The 1st one in the USA was at MIT in 1967.

Severino Antinori is an Italian gynaecologist claiming to have cloned three babies who are now living in eastern Europe. said cells from the three fathers, all of whom were sterile, allowed the cloning to be carried out. The women's eggs were impregnated in a laboratory through a method called "nuclear transfer." Article: Italian Gynaecologist: Cloned Children Live in EU

An article published in the journal “Human Molecular Genetics” said humans could be easier to clone than other mammals: Humans could be easier to clone than sheep, cattle or mice, according to scientists who have found that a crucial technical hurdle to the procedure does not exist for people. The researchers found that, unlike sheep, cattle, pigs and mice, where cloning results in a high number of foetal deformities and birth defects, humans possess an unusual genetic trait that mostly protects them from this risk. The work centred on a gene for a protein called insulin-like growth factor 2 receptor (IGF2R), which is known to be critical for the growth and normal development of an embryo in a womb. Cloned sheep and cows are known to suffer from "large offspring syndrome", where foetuses grow far bigger than normal, resulting in a high proportion of stillbirths and other developmental abnormalities. Scientists believe that this happens because the IGF2R gene is not functioning. Although sheep, cattle and most other mammals have two copies of this gene, only one of them is switched on. However, in some cloned animals, even this single functioning gene is switched off due to a complicated genetic phenomenon known as imprinting. Duke University researchers have found humans and other primates do not share this imprinting trait with other mammals. In man, both copies of the IGF2R gene are switched on, suggesting that all clones would have at least one functioning gene, therefore making it likely that human cloning would be technically easier and safer. Dr Killian said: "... Since humans are not imprinted at IGF2R, then foetal overgrowth would not be predicted to occur if humans were cloned." Randy Jirtle, another member of the Duke University team, said, "It means that the cloning of humans will be easier – not easy – but easier. The technical issue against it might not even be there. ..." The Duke University study used data from the Human Genome Project to show that imprinting does not affect the IGF2R receptor gene. The American scientists also analysed genetic data from man's nearest relatives, and discovered that this trait is shared by other primates – but not by other mammals. Article: Humans 'easier to clone than sheep or mice'


...One of the first clones Dr. Michael Wolf (book - The Catchers of Heaven) created was a J-typing Omega E-Delta-Two, or JOE for short. JOE spent 365 days growing in the tank. These first clones were a failure, because they had a conscience. “The brass were still waiting for me, the project’s senior scientist, to give an explanation for J.O.E’s seemingly clear failure to kill a dog, a harmless and gentle animal. I rather incautiously, and injudiciously, began a little, insecure attempt to explain J.O.E.’s inability to carry out a clearly immoral order....Gentlemen, this is an unbelievable advance in science, the full, not partial ability to read accurately genetic codes—but not just to read them, to redo, remodel, reconstruct-dash-manipulate, reconstruct and plan genetic codes, not just cloning, but to create a viable human-like and incredibly ability-endowed superior human, a powerhouse of mind and muscle, but human nevertheless...

History and Purpose of
CLONES and CLONING
PART 2: The SCIENTISTS REPORT
nesara.insights2.org...


IMO, cloning the sheep may have been something of an in-joke - referring to sheeple. Get it? ha ha

Yeah, I didn't really think it was funny either.


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posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 07:14 PM
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Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
I just cannot except the Idea that Medical Science has gone from sucessfully Cloning a Sheep to Cloning a Human Being in less than 13 years . Can someone here enlighten to the fact that I may be mistaken ? Where is the Proof ? .........


Hi Zanti Misfit,


Your point is of course well taken, and just like for many other things in our experience there is always the burden of proof.


Proof is essential in advancing science, or in orienting action. However, if we are only trying to decipher a mystery, then proof is but one element in the process, and cannot be held as a limiter... except when there is proof to the contrary.


This is the eternal dilemma opposing Positivist Science which requires observation and measurement before any assessment can be made and Metaphysical Science which ventures into the unknown using mental abstraction in order to develop new theories and concepts.


However, while it may be the best thing we've got going for practical purposes, such as engineering and technology, even measured evidence can prove false or so incomplete that it promotes false assumptions rather than reveals truth. Of course, the same is true for Metaphysics which can promote the wildest claims while providing no substantiating elements whatsoever.


ATS is a place where people juxtapose their observations, thoughts, knowledge and speculations to attempt to ascertain a greater measure of truth than before entering this message board. There will be threads or postings which distract us from this process more than help further our understanding. In this case they are best cast aside either for another day, or permanently. Each of us are trying to climb the same mountain, but from different sides, and what may elevate one person to awareness may cast another into the depths of confusion.


If you actually believe that the mainstream scientific community is 100% informed of every possible technology known to man, and that there are such substantial scientific barriers to cloning humans, so be it, I won't try to convince you otherwise. However I am among those who remain skeptical that we have been divulged the entire truth about human scientific endeavor, from the early days of Alchemy to present covert agencies' black operations research projects.


The initial stand of The Clone Conspiracy threads, here in the wacky and off the wall if not assumed to be a nut job Skunk Works section of ATS, is that there might be observable phenomenon which our education as well as our social and psychological conditioning prevents us from fully noticing. One such phenomenon could be the presence among our political leaders or key celebrities of cloned individuals.


If you believe that human cloning isn't a reality, it is your call. You could be right, but then again, just maybe you aren't ? Once we consider that it is possible it opens an entirely new can of worms which is not attended to by our dominant information sources. We have to figure out much of the puzzle ourselves and it is apparently quite complicated as there are major pieces missing in our analysis. And for those pieces we have, there is no evidence yet.


Just like with any metaphysical undertaking, we wander in the dark without any formal confirmation of being on the right track or ever arriving at a tangible result. We could be misled at any stage of the game. And there is no validation of the research... unless all the pieces finally fall into place and the ultimate picture uncovered becomes self evident for all to see, and can easily find confirmation thereafter.


Clone Conspiracy Puzzle Pieces

- many political leaders appear to bear a strong physical resemblance to former kings or emperors, causing us to wonder if they might be clones

- if they are clones, there seems to be a pattern of their DNA donors being from certain bloodlines presenting particular characteristics

- if they were cloned, somebody must be doing the cloning, adding an important dimension to our research which follows

- there must be a motivation to create clones rather than place in power normally born human beings

- anyone organizing a conspiracy of this size and sociopolitical importance must have complicities in secret societies and the secret services

- there must be those who know and remain silent or cover up the Clone Conspiracy

- the prevalence of cloned leaders in positions of power shows a will to have Clones run the show... and we don't know at who's orders

- there is a likelihood of blind obedience by Cloned Leaders towards those who cloned them... this presents a major international security risk

- Cloned Leaders are bedfellows with satanist Illuminati groups and this does not forebode well as to their intentions towards lesser common folk

- an Aristocracy of Cloned Royal and Imperial Bloodlines have taken over our World's Governments

- the Illuminati bloodlines with whom the Clones are associated have an agenda to cull the herd and reduce the populations of impure naturally born bastards which we are

- Cloned Leaders placed into government positions through manipulated falsely democratic elections are consistently reducing our liberties and increasing the dumbing down of the masses

- such Clones are seemingly insensitive to their oaths of allegiance and their higher duties towards their own nation, making them candidates for treasonous acts

- the insensitivity of Cloned Leaders extends, just as in the case of their bloodline forefathers, to the plight and suffering of populations which they willfully expose to duress, poverty, disease and preventable death

- it stands to reason that at least to an extent they are Mind Controlled by another party which we must strive to identify and oppose

- there is unpleasant corroborated research which points to our current leaders being manipulated or servants to an outside power, whether demonic, alien or human remains to be ascertained

- we have likely been lied to about the availability of cloning technology for a great deal of time in order to preserve the secrecy of this diabolical conspiracy

- DNA sampling of the sourced unwitting donors and current cloned leaders would be comforting but it is unlikely that we can trust any samples for either party nor can we trust any testing laboratory's results

- we are thus alone with only our wits in order to make sense of this ghastly farce.



posted on Jan, 20 2010 @ 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by Getsmart

- there must be a motivation to create clones rather than place in power normally born human beings

Yes, it's possible that the "human factor" makes humans too unpredictable. I'm sure a soulless clone would be a lot easier to completely control.



- there must be those who know and remain silent or cover up the Clone Conspiracy

I know for sure that people are replaced with doubles, & no one is talking about it. I'm sure bribes & threats are enough to keep most people silent. The others... well, there's always murder.


- there is a likelihood of blind obedience by Cloned Leaders towards those who cloned them... this presents a major international security risk

Yes, since they are probably soulless & completely programmed. Their "minds" are not their own... We should probably post something on the mind control aspect of this...


- such Clones are seemingly insensitive to their oaths of allegiance and their higher duties towards their own nation, making them candidates for treasonous acts

If they lack a soul, they lack a conscience. The only allegiance they'd have would be the one they were programmed to have.


- it stands to reason that at least to an extent they are Mind Controlled by another party which we must strive to identify and oppose

Bingo.


- there is unpleasant corroborated research which points to our current leaders being manipulated or servants to an outside power, whether demonic, alien or human remains to be ascertained

Demons are aliens - & they work w/ their human cohorts who have probably been promised the moon. I'm sure they'll be disappointed. lol


- we have likely been lied to about the availability of cloning technology for a great deal of time in order to preserve the secrecy of this diabolical conspiracy

No doubt. If it's easier to clone a human than other mammals b/c of the IGF2R gene, then it's probably already been done.


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posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 12:36 AM
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All you have done here with that explaination is make me question my own perceptions of Reality . There might be things that cannot be perceived by indivudal people but do exist nevertheless . I stated a personal belief that Medical Science as I understand it , could not have gone from Cloning a Sheep to Cloning a Human Being in such short of a time . This might or might not be the case, I just do not know . What do you think ? .....



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posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 04:46 AM
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Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
All you have done here with that explaination is make me question my own perceptions of Reality . There might be things that cannot be perceived by indivudal people but do exist nevertheless . I stated a personal belief that Medical Science as I understand it , could not have gone from Cloning a Sheep to Cloning a Human Being in such short of a time . This might or might not be the case, I just do not know . What do you think ? .....



The vibratory range of our perceptive organs, the 5 senses if you wish, is extremely limited. Furthermore, these only give us information within 3 dimensions of space, to which our mental faculties add the dimension of time. So it has been established beyond doubt, by mainstream science, that we can only perceive a fraction of all that is present in the strictly physical dimension in close proximity to our body.


These limited perceptions are further modified by a number of incumbent factors which include the shape and potential significance our education leads us to grant them. There is reason to believe that we can only see what we are predisposed to see by our own perceptive predispositions. That is why the education process is so lengthy, because it takes time to be able to grasp what else there might be which cannot yet be obvious to us. Once we've learned it, it becomes elementary because our perceptive predisposition is in place. This also possibly prevents us from seeing other things in its stead, making our educated guess an additional limiting factor of our perceptions.


Now you may want to consider what the consensus of today's physicists have to say about reality. We operate in only 4 dimensions (at least in our conscious waking state) but there may be further dimensions within the physical space which surrounds us and/or penetrates or is superposed on us. String theory proposes up to 26 dimensions, which would imply that we have a very limited and distorted perception of only a small percentage of physical reality.


Dimensions of Quantum Physics


Regarding medical science's speed of evolution, as in any field of endeavor all it takes is a paradigmatic shift (a fundamental notion that explains everything better) to instantly open numerous doors left ajar for want of missing elements of understanding. If a single concept or vision can unlock blocked research, it would unleash the floodgates of advancements in related fields. In one fell swoop you would at last reap the benefits of multiple projects which had previously remained unfruitful.


However, if we take note of Someotherguys important mention of a single genetic difference in humans versus other mammals, we may be addressing the problem backwards. If it has been determined, by relative newcomers to cloning (those not involved in prior secret cloning projects), that it is easier to clone humans than animals, then this increases the possibility that it may have been easier to clone people than we have been led to imagine.


If so, then who can say whether there weren't far easier to implement methods for cloning people, relying on far less technology than is today required to clone a lesser animal ? Furthermore, there is also a distinct possibility that some scientific research may be conducted in secret ? If this did not occur to you, you may wish to ask any of your acquaintances who work in the field of science and technology. You will find that they concur that most research is conducted with the utmost secrecy and kept out of public view until deemed in the interest of the principal parties involved.


While this does not PROVE that human cloning is an active process today or is generalized in practice, it does point to the possibility that it might not have been as impossible as we tend to believe. Because we don't know it was not feasible, we were only TOLD so by those we have learned to trust, medical scientists. However, we should not let an excess of trust blind us to contradictory evidence which might be present all around us. In such a case, our belief that it is impossible would be equivalent to superstition without further form of verification than that we trust the ones who said so. This begs the essential question...


Should we outsource our understanding of the world to such "High Priests" who define our reality, or should we take our chances and venture forth ourselves to find out whatever more we can, by reasoned discussion, exploratory hypotheses and inquisitive logic ?


Casting aside what today's medical science publishes as being entirely representative of the state of the art of modern medicine, we must envisage that there have been and still are many secret research projects of which we are not informed, and of which we may never be informed. Therefore we cannot accept as a valid parameter that "human cloning cannot have happened in the past, or I would have been so informed a long time ago".


Mainstream media has lavished its efforts to portray the current status of cloning technology as fledgling, fraught with unsurmountable scientific difficulties and hazardous at best. Relatively insignificant advances are heralded as if they were major breakthroughs, and a picture is painted of a very distant future when one day maybe humans might be cloned in very cautious and controlled conditions. Given that the media is, in its quasi totality, entirely controlled by certain Elite groups pursuing their own agenda - - which is certainly not about dutifully informing us with any degree of honesty - - we are entitled to remain skeptical about such a portrayal of the state of cloning technology.


The current debate about stem cell research and the ethics of human cloning also does a lot to obscure the issue and sends home a strong message: we must prevent all human cloning meaning that, of course, it is inconceivable that it has already been ongoing for some time.


We must allow ourselves to suspend our disbelief at least long enough to examine the evidence, before staunchly defending our assumed certainties. And this at the risk of seeing said certainties take a hit. For once you notice you have been supplied with a shaky cornerstone, an entire edifice of fictional reality can collapse, ensuing in considerable discomfort.


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posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 04:00 AM
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Regarding the question of WHO may be cloning our world leaders and what their motivation might be, ATS has sponsored a video series which may provide some insight into this.


There appears to be an emerging consensus among the more cautious and methodical members of the scientific community addressing the equally disturbing problem of abductions, that we are confronted with an ongoing presence among us of either extra-terrestrial aliens, dimensional beings living in close vicinity of our geo-spatial location, or some form of ethereal entity acting upon us with motives we have yet to understand.


George Knapp Video #3


While this does not directly address the issue of Human Cloning, it does add to the interpretation of Cloned Presidents being engineered by "inhuman beings", which is a term that seems well suited to describing the unknown entities interfering in human matters for their own agenda.


Of course, among those who have investigated such phenomena, we are not alone in wondering what they want - - and as Philip Corso states at minute 5:30 in the following video - - what do they offer ?


Philip Corso Video #4


In a goldmine tunnel where he encountered an "unusual being" Colonel Corso asked that question and was replied A New World... if you can take it!


From what little testimony I have gleaned off the Internet, this is the closest to a directly stated declaration of intent. Philip Corso wonders if that statement wasn't missing its last word, for it to gain its full significance ?


"A New World... if you can take it back!


We are also duty bound to ask ourselves if there isn't some connection with this statement by an EBE and what the Alien accomplices from the Alphabet Agencies and the Illuminati are promoting, i.e. A New World Order offered to us by Alien invaders ?


In this instance, we should probably interpret that statement to mean:



"A New World... if you can stomach it!



In a later segment of the video, Colonel Corso states that he thinks that the Greys so often seen and which he encountered in the flesh were not the real Aliens, but a biologically engineered servant cast. Here at minute 1:50 he asks the following question:

Philip Corso Interview Part #8



by Colonel Philip Corso

What do they want... here ? Do they want a new race ?
Because, one of the strangest things, as far as I'm concerned, is on these mutilations they took the sex organs, and the nearest thing to human sex organs are cattle sex organs. And, by the way, they cut those with a type of laser cutter that didn't even cut through the cells.



If said Aliens exist, and if the Greys are engineered biological entities, and if human and cattle mutilation has occurred, and if human abductions have happened including reported manipulation of reproductive functions - - then we must consider very seriously the grave danger of our planet being the current subject of a wide scale genetic experiment.


The Clone Conspiracy may well be directly related to such an invasive action on humanity's very genetic constitution, our physical and informational being. It is therefore an all out WAR being waged against us, with our very essence at stake. If they have no qualms in engineering diminutive slave races such as the Greys, then what destiny have they planned for us ?



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posted on Jan, 23 2010 @ 12:24 PM
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Regarding the possible connection between the Clone Conspiracy - having already noted several OTO members currently cloned as Leaders - here is an oath of allegiance of this Illuminati Sect which venerated the following entity:


Baphomet



I refer you to page 26 of the following document (click to download .pdf) to verify the progression to Illuminatus Perfectus status. This is the mystical definition of the Illuminati most Conspiracy Theorists refer to. Also on page 72 you will see their 3rd Degree Oath to Satan outlined, an excerpt of which follows.


The Secret Rituals of the O.T.O.


excerpt from above linked book by Francis King

Say after me:

I further solemnly pledge myself

to obey the Grand Master Baphomet;

to recognize his authority

and his alone;

without regular charter from him

I will not initiate

or purport to initiate

any person

into any association

of any kind

or administer any ceremony

identical with

or resembling in any way

the Ceremonies of Our Order.

I promise always to look with respect and reverence

upon the members of higher grades,

and to aspire steadfastly

and with modesty

to be received into their number.

I further solemnly pledge myself

so to apply the Four Powers of the Sphinx

as to obtain full control

over my subtle body,

so that I may travel freely therein

upon all spheres as I will

whether my present physical body

be alive or no.

I further solemnly pledge myself

to maintain the Seven Bonds of Brotherhood;

in act as well as in word.

My hand shall grip in sure relation

As of true brother with true brother;

My foot shall be the firm foundation

Of our straight walking with each other;

My knee bend not in supplication

Either to him or to another

My body shall not do him wrong;

My breast shall keep his secrets close;

My mouth shall speak him truth in song,

My arm defend him from his foes.

(Initiator places his hands on initiate’s, and adds weight to his emphasis.)

Most especially

will I keep secret the knowledge

of the Word of this Degree;

I will never utter it

so long as I shall live,

except at the proper moment,

when acting as Master

of a Secret Place of Masters

in a camp of True Magicians,

warranted by charter

under the hand and seal of Baphomet;

lest its sacred virtue be impaired.

All these points

I solemnly swear to observe,

under no less a penalty

than that of being stabbed

in the bowels,

and my carcass

burned to ashes,

that no trace or remembrance of so vile a wretch

may remain among men,

especially Master Magicians.

(Seal thrice on CCXX, dropping head to Book.)

In the Name of the Secret Master,

(Puts Book to his brow.)

In the name of the O.T.O.

(Puts Dagger to throat.)

By the authority of the Grand Master Baphomet.

(Puts Disk to heart.)

I proclaim you devoted a Master Magician.

(Initiate rises. The officers give him the kiss of peace.)



We must take due note of this occult movement prevailing in the Illuminati as being a satanic demonic worship which has penetrated the ruling Elites and is in widespread control of most intelligence agencies.


There is a great likelihood that they are behind the Clone Conspiracy and it is quite possible that the Devil which they worship and to whom their every effort is devoted, is not of Human origin, i.e. is an Alien entity. The head of the Ordo Templi Orientis and the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, Aleister Crowley, lead to Hitler and his daughter who can be presumed to be his successor is none other than Barbara Bush calling the shots today.


Barbara Bush is Aleister Crowley's Sex Magic Child


Her father claims to have met the Devil in person - and he had a drawing done of his vision which is the following.


Aleister Crowley's meeting with the Devil



I don't think we need much of a photo comparison to match Crowley's meeting with the Devil to a very close contender, burned after a saucer crash.


Crash recovery Alien Grey



However, I think we all know who is behind such a "Devil"... and they are Evil indeed and possibly look more like Baphomet (Winged Reptilian Aliens?) than their cloned Grey slaves. There may be evidence hidden of the Illuminati GOD being mortal, as one of them apparently left behind his skull...


Horned skull of Baphomet concealed in a museum




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