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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 11:16 PM by Ex_MislTech
reply to post by Iamonlyhuman



The October surprise has been delayed, no idea how long,
but they are pumping funny money into the system to keep
it afloat.

How long they can keep back channeling the Fed into buying
our own T-bills vs. selling them to other nations I have no idea.

The paper going in a circle though will eventually lead to
some pretty nasty inflation.

When that happens they will be inclined to raise rates like
they did in the 80's and when that happens, the party is
likely over.

But they have a lot of power, and a lot of paper and ink,
so who knows how long the fiat farce will fly.



reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 01:07 AM by rnaa
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler




Ever work in a Bank's IT department? Didn't think so.

I have. Three different banks. You are quite wrong about your assessment.

Don't use T-1? half right. T-1 connections are too slow for many systems, so faster T-carriers are used when appropriate. Individual branches would have no need for even a T-1 connection. They used to use ISDN leased lines to the branches but that is pretty old technology these days, not certain what they use now, possibly ADSL or maybe fiber optic. Between data centers Banks have very tight service level agreements between their various systems and they will use the fastest biggest capacity pipes they can get. I'd be willing to bet that T-carrier was 'invented' specifically for Banks, but the Airlines might disagree with me.

Hack a T-carrier? Not bloody likely, and if you do you will just find the strongest encryption in existence. (yes I know, everything is crackable given enough computer power and time).

DOS based? wrong again. If there is one thing you can be sure of, it is that Banks will never use software or hardware that is out of support for critical systems. Back office systems that "just work" may hang around for a while if nobody has to hassle with it, but a DOS based system is laughable.

It is true that banks don't upgrade their systems and hardware every other month, but most hardware will be upgraded/replaced every three years or so.

Don't use wireless? Half true at least. Certainly not for branch platform stuff or at the Computer center, but quite possibly for 'normal' office stuff.

For the most part, Banks security systems are the best available outside of Military/Intelligence grade. Almost all mistakes resulting in a security breach are customer caused. But when the occasional screw up happens it can be quite spectacular.

Most IT Programmers wouldn't know how to program banking systems? Half right maybe. Most programmers don't work for Banks, and banking platform systems and ATM systems are highly specialized systems. The generic platforms are purchased from IBM or Seimans or whoever, and customised for the Bank's operations. Backoffice stuff, like loan processing, general ledger, and management reporting will almost certainly be on SAP a computer package used by virtually every large company in the world, so there are a lot of people that can program its internal language called ABAP. And SAP can be programmed with Java too, but 'most' IT Programmers don't know Java either (just a very large number). Customer Management Systems are, for the most part, written in Java these days, if the Bank customizes it for themselves. Human Resources will be either from SAP or Oracle (there are a few others), and these systems are used by the majority of large companies.

The bottom line is that there are a lot of people that can program Banking systems. Specialist systems will have specialist programmers that are trained in the specific systems. However, systems that use standard languages and techniques predominate, so most IT programmers will not be out of their depth.

1980's terminal mindset? Hardly. You won't find any dumb terminals at any bank branch. They will almost certainly be stripped down Windoze based machines running specific branch platform front end programs, though in some cases that could be a Java applet running in a browser . There will be no email, no minesweeper, no connection to the internet so they won't be hackable. Even old applications built with CICS and IMS that used to send IBM 3270 terminal data streams just need to be pointed at a new terminal terminal type in the terminal controller program to send an HTML stream instead.

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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 01:28 AM by rnaa
reply to post by Iamonlyhuman



Must be new to the bank.

Banks will generally have an internally known software upgrade schedule. A typical schedule would be Monthly for program fixes, quarterly for new implementations, half yearly for application upgrades, yearly for operating system upgrades.

Notice we are not talking about adding new desktops, or installing Office, we are talking about the critical banking systems at the data centre, generally on the mainframe.

Any downtime is scheduled to minimize front office hassles and interruption of backoffice processing. So monthly upgrades would be done when the branches are closed and after the general ledger has been closed for example. They would normally try to schedule bigger things during 3 or 4 day holiday breaks.

There are always, and I mean always, changes to applications to implement Government requirements. I expect that there are new reporting requirements as part of the fallout from the GFC. But there is nothing new about the cycle or the concept.

If the bank is going to be fined or something if they don't get the new reporting happening by a certain date, then you can be sure Management is going to be leaning on IT to get it right. And the IT department would be remiss if it didn't warn the rest of the company that their could be outages if it goes pear shaped, especially if there are major changes, done hastily, outside the 'normal' development cycle.
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