Originally posted by Lister87
I'd love for 'reincarnation' to be real, i really would.

But i just can't see it.

There are ever increasing amounts of people on the planet, there has been since the beginning of human kind.

If we say started with '2 humans' - how did our 'souls' reincarnate from 2 souls, reincarnating life by life, to 6 Billion...

Same goes for now. Say RIGHT NOW there are 6 Billion souls to be reincarnated after death, someday the earth will have 8 Billion people.. 2 Billion souls have appeared from..where?

Interesting theory, very interesting. But it doesn't add up in my head sadly.

I was wondering how the whole population growing thing would fit into it too, hopefully someone will have a possible answer for us.

Originally posted by tempest501

I was wondering how the whole population growing thing would fit into it too, hopefully someone will have a possible answer for us.

To be honest, unless they go off into worlds of 'splitting souls' or whatever, i don't think it's really explainable.

When i die, will my soul split into two, three, four? I can't see it.

It was mentioned on the first page that death is a recycling of energy. I believe this to be true.

In that respect, I believe that we cannot recall past lives because of this "recycling". I think in each life we were indeed self aware. With death though, those memories along with our bodies are recycled.

I don't believe our genetics have anything to do with it. If everything is energy, with the spirit being life energy, who is to say what is "recycled" and what begins again. IMHO though, our life energy is the only thing that is reincarnated.

Now, how do I explain away the hypnosis that leads people to believe in their past lives? Well, it's not easy.

I believe that it is basically a self fulfilling prophecy. These people want to believe and remember these past life experiences, and so their mind forges one, or many for that matter, to appease their desires.

With all this being said, I am not even certain I personally believe in reincarnation.

I do believe in life cycles, if that makes any sense past the clear contradictions. Either way, that's just one more thing to place on the examination table.

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This recycling of life energy is a good theory, but I don't necessarily think that there has to be a soul.

Right now your alive. Full of energy. What gives you that energy? The food you eat. And when you die your body is still full of energy. Energy for the decomposers and energy for the trees and for the soil.

So in a sense you are recycled.

As for the whole soul thing, I would love for reincarnation and the likes to be true but have a hard time with it. I'm right in the middle of the teeter totter and I don't know which way to fall. Seems every day I find something that reinforces one side of the other. lol

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Ide say im like 7- percent belive in it, 30 % dont. When i was a kid, i had an aunt..aunt rose wede call her. SHe was a tough woman, and would slap your face if you siad offensive things. She had told my mother a few times, she wanted to be reincarnated as a butterfly. She died in 85 i think. Well that same year, summer came, me and my 2 sisters had a medium pool set up in backyard. First summer, a small butterfly started coming around..it was creme in color, the wings rather, but had ornage, black and pink spots on it. it would sit on our fence and jsut stare at us for hours, swimming. My older sister had told me at the time, she wonderred if it was aunt rose...the next summer, it came back, with a companion buterfly. 1987 my father took the pool down,a nd thats the last i ever saw of them.
I like to thik i was her..as i had never seens such a wierd spoted butterfly before or after her death. But cannot prove that either.

I once had a dream that I was a six year old boy with an Australian father and a British mother. I overheard them discussing moving to America and I didn't want to go. It was so real. Odd though, considering I'm a thirty year old American, born and raised. Strangest dream I ever had...like a day in the life of a stranger. I was thinking maybe it was me in a past life. I don't know.

Reincarnation is true, but it's not how we want it to be true.

Break the word down

Re- again
incarnation- life in a body

reincarnation is thus the cycle by which incarnation cycles again and again. That's nothing but the process of Nature. When one creature dies, Nature creates a new one.

Most people want it to be this way: when I die, I reincarnate again.

But physical immortality is impossible, only Nature is physically immortal but because it has no freedom, it is bound by its principles. Nature has no free will of its own, it is 100 percent controlled by God which is Nature itself. The goal of yoga is to transcend the cycle of birth and death, and thus transcend the cycle of Nature's reincarnation. This transcendence does contain freedom and it is the only thing that is immortal. It is the Truth by which everything turns and reincarnates.

Originally posted by doped00
This recycling of life energy is a good theory, but I don't necessarily think that there has to be a soul.

Right now your alive. Full of energy. What gives you that energy? The food you eat. And when you die your body is still full of energy. Energy for the decomposers and energy for the trees and for the soil.

So in a sense you are recycled.

As for the whole soul thing, I would love for reincarnation and the likes to be true but have a hard time with it. I'm right in the middle of the teeter totter and I don't know which way to fall. Seems every day I find something that reinforces one side of the other. lol

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I know exactly what you mean I am in that camp too.

peace

Reincarnation....MYTH.

How can "a" person be reborn into "a" new body if the population is and has grown over time?

The best/nearest there could be would be a single person being reborn into 2 or 3 bodies.

Naaaa, don't think so!