Originally posted by Karilla
Heaven and Hell were not such well-defined ideas in early Christian theology. The idea of rreincarnation leading up to the day of judgement was not
fully exised from biblical texts until the middle ages, but it first began to go out of favour with the Romans.
Some reading on the concept:
The modern bible has had nearly all the parts pertaining to reincarnation exised, but a few remain. These are contradicted by other verses, now, and
the overall result is the current Christian doctrine.
It is pretty obvious to me that a poulation that believes it has one chance to achieve a state of grace is going to be much easier to control than one
which thinks it has many more chances to get it right.
Have you ever partaken of Ayahuasca on your shamanic journeys?
You are wrong about life after death not being accepted in the Old Testament.
It was accepted by many of the prophets in the Old Testaments and not a new concept as you say!
Reincarnation was never accepted by the early Christian Church as Scripture truth...
I don't see it, or understand how people who dont want to believe in God, or accept the fact that ,there is a God, can say that Christiniaty enslaves
''How does Christinity enslave''?
Does it not teach perfect morals?
Do good to others, even if they do bad to you?
How can that be enslavement?
To me, it shows forgiveness and Love.
How can that be considered controlling?
So before I begin, let me explain that about 8-9 years ago, I went on a shaman journey
You say Heaven and hell is totally N.W.O originated,yes?
And you also give your opinion as to why you believe it is made up.
So why is Shamanism any different to Christinity?
To be fair here, Has not someone else also, made up shamanism and it's purpose for which you chose to follow?
And of course Hell was created as a reason to always want to do right so you don't end up going there 'for eternity!' Here the NWO
realllllly take advantage of us not being able to remember past lives.
Christianity does not tell you or preach to you that they have the power to send you to hell or heaven....neither does it control you or anyone else
on how to live your life!
The path of which you choose to follow is that of your own choice, not someone who lives on earth.
Eternity is forever.....God alone judges!
If past lives is as you say truth,and it has been hidden from us,
then how exactly does it help you or anyone else?
What exactly does it offer you to know past life information?
So, let's say you were a murderer in the past life, does that mean you wont become one now?
Or is it simply good to know that you will alter your life in this life somehow with better choices?
How does it make you any different to who you are now?
As for the O.P heading....
...''There is NO Heaven and Hell''..isn't that your opinion given by a shamanistic journey that you alone experienced?
Why is this so different to other beliefs?
Instead, quite unexpectedly, I ended up going to the higher plane, and talking with the old Indian fellow there. Anyway, the end result was
that he told me that all I had to do was ask a question, or wonder about something and direct it towards the racial/collective unconscious, and they
would send me the best answers they could find for my question.
Since that time, I have been getting all sorts of information about stuff, the history of the world in particular, since that is of interest to me.
It is really pretty cool although others sometimes think I am a total nut case. *shrug* Oh well, maybe that is why I was the one they connected to
the racial unconscious.
Asking questions to who?
Isn't that similar to people believing in that God talks to them alone and that they have been chosen?
Why is your journet considered to be different?