An Intro To Anarchism

Hmm, a hypocrite eh?

Also i don't remember ranting, could you be so kind as to quote one of my rants about anarchism please?

I don't get irritated at much these days, let alone broken fingernails (i chew them).

Could you also do me a favour, either contribute something for or against your arguement, because up to now i'm thinking you don't really know what you're talkin about, instead you seem to be 'baiting' and resorting to childish mud-slinging.

Thankyou.

Apparently not. Capitalize the first word of each sentence, dot the ends of sentences, all that Kindergarten stuff is a rule here. Chat speak to the excess is against the rules.

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As far as anarcho-syndicalism and Noam Chomsky I think Murray Rothbard said it the best.

"Scratch a left-wing “anarchist” and you will find a coercive egalitarian despot who makes the true lover of freedom yearn even for Richard Nixon in contrast."

One just has to ask themselves, is anarchy about being free, or about being a utopia?

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I think living free could possibly be a utopia in itself, like you said before:

Based on my own experiances this is how most people are, they do not need someone else to make them respect others it is just the way they are.
That is what would need to be relied apon in an anarchistic society, yes their are bad people out there but there are many more people who want to live peacefully and happily.

Sometimes, an enlightened egalitarian despot seems like the next best alternative. Anyone read Plato's Republic?

"philosophers must become kings…or those now called kings must…genuinely and adequately philosophize"

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Agreed. Bad people can do bad things, but give them a legal monopoly of the initiation of violence (government) and bad people can do bad things on a much larger scale. I don't think Hitler could have perpetrated his terrible acts without a monopoly on the use of force in Germany, at least, he couldn't have done them in the scale.
This is a fundamental flaw of statist arguments. If governments are necessary to prevent bad people from doing bad things, who can stop bad governments from doing bad things. One has to remember that the government is made up of people, not altruistic gods and are as capable as the rest of humanity for evil.

Also, governments inflict harm on people at a distance. This dehumanizes the experience of killing someone and turns it into a plausible political tactic in the modern world.

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Yes but if it is not on a single larger scale effort, it could be on many small scale efforts.

Plus, anarchism would more than likely end up falling into a direct democracy.
But it sucks then too because when the majority doesn't know whats best for them, it will still sink...(America).

Did it ever occur to you that what is best your may also be best for me?

One thing nobody ever had before was the internet.

When you need to educate your self you have more than just wiki...You have the whole of the net.

We can ask questions on Yahoo answers, research topics here on ATS, Educate ourselves on a variety of online encyclopedias. In this day and age we have this tool that nobody before us had, this internet.

I vote for taxes how about you? You like Roads, public schools, Libraries, and other good public works? I know I do.

How about the war in Afghanistan? Have you been given good reasons as to why we are still there? Has torturing people in Guantanamo created more terrorists? Should these things be done away with yet? Maybe we should vote on it.

In this day and age the internet has changed the dynamics of human interaction and maybe for the first time a direct democracy would not be a bad idea....

Granted I could accept a combination of ideas... but just something that allows you and I a voice in the system would be enough.. it would be a start for me.

When you trust another to speak for you the other will say things you never intended to be spoken let alone adhered to.

InfoShop

This site goes really deep on the theory of Anarchism for anyone that is interested.

I'm quite surprised with this thread. I didn't know there were people on ATS who have adopted Anarchism considering all the slander against it from politicians, schools and the media. But then again, ATS's motto is "Deny Ignorance", so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Great thread OP. Star and flag.

EDIT: I just realized Mr. Lizard already posted a link to the same web site.




[edit on 25-10-2009 by Striker122]

Thanks.

I didn't expect many supporters of it either.

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So on a site that discusses conspiracies, cover-ups, and general distaste for the current system we live under, it seemed unlikely that people with anarchist tendencies would not be present.

I guess to me, these ideas seemed too anti-establishment to not be included on ATS.

Yep, precisely.