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Why Does U.S.A always support Israel??

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posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 08:28 PM
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Thats simply not true. Read the history.

The Fed is dominated by Elitist Europeans and the US historically has been more hostile to Jews and Israel than not.




posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 08:31 PM
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Oh my, my, my.

Does anyone one this site read anything beyond conspiracy sites?

The ONLY true Democracy in the Middle East is Israel. One person, one vote. Other are coming...slowly (Lebannon, Iraq, Afghanistan.)

The ONLY country in the Middle East that desire to support the sames aims as the U.S. is Israel.



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by MikeboydUS
Meanwhile the US continues to move its pawns on the global chess board.


Let's not go down that road.
Official: Russian arms sales to set new record

MOSCOW—Russian arms sales are set to reach a new post-Soviet record this year, a top official said Tuesday.

Russia's weapons exports will exceed $8 billion this year, Russian news agencies quoted Mikhail Dmitriyev, head of the Federal Service for Military and Technical Cooperation, as saying.

Arms sales have grown at a quick pace, reaching a post-Soviet record of $7.5 billion last year and on track to surpass that for 2008.


Yes.. They're an Allie.. We will support them but this however doesnt mean we have to be simply Fanboys.

Selling US technology should be up to the US not Israel. An Allie also doesn't Spy on you...

China's Missile Imports and Assistance From Israel

China's missile-related imports and assistance from Israel have been a subject of particular concern in the United States because of worries that Israel may be providing China with "back door" access to controlled, sensitive US technology. For example, in the early 1990s, reports surfaced that Israel had secretly transferred information on the US Patriot missile system to China, in violation of Israel's promise to the United States not to transfer the Patriot technology to any third country. Although both China and Israel denied the allegations, US government sources concluded that it was almost certain that a transfer of technology (though not physical equipment) had taken place.

China is reportedly using the Patriot technology to improve its surface-to-air missile (SAM) systems and to develop countermeasures against the Patriot for its ballistic and cruise missiles; reports also indicated that China intended to sell these SAMs and enhanced missiles to other countries, possibly including Iran. Reports suggested various Israeli motives for the transfer: some suggested that Israel had traded Patriot information for information on China's missiles; others asserted that Israel's transfer of Patriot technology was intended to encourage China to curtail its sales of ballistic missiles to countries in the Middle East such as Syria and Iran.


Israeli Spying:
The Mother of all Scandals

Once again Israel denies wrongdoing, or faced with incontrovertible evidence (in this case one of the spies has reportedly cooperated with the FBI) dismisses the spying with the claim that such spying is harmless, because Israel and the United States are such good friends.

Well, let us take a closer look at that idea of “harmless espionage” by recalling Israel’s most famous failed spy, Jonathan Pollard.


[edit on 13-9-2009 by SLAYER69]



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 08:34 PM
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They support Israel because Israel is the only democratic state in the Mid East. That sums it all up.

[edit on 13-9-2009 by Tomis_Nexis]



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by SharkBait
Because they've been preached to what the Bible says about helping Israel. For those that help you will be blessed those that hate you will receive Gods "Punishment" don;t have the exact wording.



I can't imagine a loving God supporting the likes of the criminal trash running Israel. They can claim any connection to the divine (or the bible) they wish -- there is simply no way a just God would support what the zionists are doing to the Palestinians.




Originally posted by kingoftheworld

No its because america is run by jews. Now before you write this off as anti-sematic think about it. If you believe that the fed owns america look at who the fed is. The fed is comprised of jews. Ergo we support israel at all times.




I think this comes as close to the truth as anything.

The jews are organized and have largely infiltrated Hollywood, the mainstream media, corporate America, banking and government. By controlling flows of information, they control what the braindead masses think. By controlling large segments of corporate America, they influence what we buy and how we do business. By infiltrating banking, they have our country by the shorthairs and are in the process of destroying our country. By infiltrating government, they bribe, blackmail and threaten our politicians and directly influence our laws. Indeed, many of our politicians hold dual US/Israeli citizenship. Could it possibly be any worse?

I seriously believe the world would be a much better place if Israel was dissolved. It would be even better if fedgov was dissolved. Some things just can't be fixed.



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 08:44 PM
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Because of all the Jews here. There are more Jews in the U.S. than there are in Israel. And the Jews in the U.S. are in general wealthy and politically influential.



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 08:47 PM
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I have a feeling out there it's anybody but the christians.



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by crmanager
Oh my, my, my.

Does anyone one this site read anything beyond conspiracy sites?

The ONLY true Democracy in the Middle East is Israel. One person, one vote. Other are coming...slowly (Lebannon, Iraq, Afghanistan.)

The ONLY country in the Middle East that desire to support the sames aims as the U.S. is Israel.



Ugh ..... given the 9/11 false flag operation (and other crimes) and the multitude of freakin' illegal 'laws' passed since then, maybe your comparison of the US and Israel is valid at this point in history. Consider the observations of a jewish survivor of Auschwitz (Hajo Meyer) about Israel:

“I can write up an endless list of similarities between Nazi Germany and Israel. The capturing of land and property, denying people access to educational opportunities and restricting access to earn a living to destroy their hope, all with the aim to chase people away from their land. And what I personally find more appalling then dirtying one's hands by killing people, is creating circumstances where people start to kill each other. Then the distinction between victims and perpetrators becomes faint. By sowing discord in a situation where there is no unity, by enlarging the gap between people -- like Israel is doing in Gaza.”

Yes sir; maybe the US and Israel do have the same aims.......



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 08:57 PM
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The US isn't the only one playing the game, that I agree.

China, Russia, and Europe are all playing.

My point is that Israel is only a pawn. It is far from a player on the board.



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by Grumble
Because of all the Jews here. There are more Jews in the U.S. than there are in Israel. And the Jews in the U.S. are in general wealthy and politically influential.


The amount of wealthy Jews in a country means nothing. Germany was a good example of that. All of those wealthy Jews and they were powerless to stop the absurdity of National Socialism.

Like I have said to others, read the history, do the research. Israel is seen as a pawn by the geopolitical erudites who dominate the West.



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 09:08 PM
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well gwasshowpah it is like this, aipac israels lobby and the mossad have infiltrated,birbed,blackmailes all of the politicians, they fund campaigns and then the idiot is in debt to them,. this plus the fact obama;s cabinet positions are all xionists and 99% dual israeli citizens and former opersatives like his cheif of staff rahm emmanuel zionsts have vbasically taken over america, havent you noticed they been doing it since 1913.that is when the serious infilatration started with the jew federal reserve, after that it was all down hill.



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 09:11 PM
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I thought the Israeli's infiltrated the highest levels of America's government long ago...and just lost their place recently...

Now no one will get special treatment after that whole thing.



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 09:11 PM
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you are full of #, colonel mandel house and warburg set up the federal reserve, through the traitor wilson who also put brandeis the jew in the supreme court.what are you a dummie or a jew.



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 09:16 PM
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national socialism was an absurdity it show you know nothing or are under illusion or are a jew.i wont explain the circumstances and history of the time but i know it and you either know it or are making excuses cuz then you would know what the jews did to germany after the fisrt ww, this site is a run by jews zionists. i dont bother much here just drop a few bombs on this type of disinfo that is common here.keep em stupid charley save the best for last.



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 09:34 PM
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This is a simple and important question that requires a complex answer.


In order to understand the relationship of the US and Israel, one must go back in history and see how it developed and the mosaic of the historic connection between the US and Israel is a complex one.


I have friends who are both of the Sephardi Jews and the Khazar Jews; we have had extensive conversations on this subject and all my aforementioned Jewish friends fully agree with my viewpoints on this very sensitive subject. I have no prejudice towards any Jews, but I am fully against abuses of power (Zionism and Neocons) that stem from prejudices that are not only unnecessary, but are devoid of the real facts of history.


An honest answer on my part will surely draw a lot of flack and I don't look forward to that, but truth is truth, no matter how inconvenient it is. I've spent hours reading up about Israel over the years, so I'm typing up this brief answer from my own perceptions and understandings about the complex and unhealthy relationship between the US and Israel.


I'll start with just the facts, mam, JUST THE FACTS! No prejudice here.


First of all, take a look at the name of "Israel". It's an amalgam of parts of three words: "Is" is from "Isis" of Egypt; "Ra" is also from Egypt -- the sun god "Ra"; and "El", a shortened version of the "Elohim" of the Old Testament. So... Is--Ra--El... Israel. So that's where the name comes from.


Google " Is-Ra-El ".


Ok, who are the citizens of the current State of Israel? About 5% are Sephardi Jews, who are the real Jews of the Bible and they are the real Semites, along with the Palestinians, who ALSO are Semites. About 95% of the population of the current State of Israel are decendants of the Khazar Jews, who stem from the Russian Khazar region, in the Caucasus mts -- these "Jews" are NOT true Jews, they are the group of people that had followed the dictates of some king, who was stuck between the Islamic empire and the Christian empire, so, in order to not get caught in either camp, the king chose to go with the Judaism religion -- a move that nobody expected at the time.


Google " Khazars ".


Then google " Israel Khazars ". Prepare to be surprised.


So, given that 95% of the Israeli "Jews" really are from the Khazar region in Russia and nearby countries, what real claim do the modern-day Israelis have on Palestine? Pray tell, what?


The Palestinians have had full, uncontested use of their land, once known as "Palestine", for over 1,000 years. That's a fact. And that, as of the early 1900's, the Sephardic Jews and the Palestinians got along quite well and they respected each other, lived in each others communities and respected each other. That's a fact.


But the Rothschilds, who are the richest banking family in the world and the prime stock-holder of the Federal Reserve and many European central banks, decided that they wanted the modern-day Khazarian "Jews" to have their "own country", so they manipulated world events to lead to the fateful "Balfour Declaration" that paved the way for the establishment of the modern-day State of Israel.


Google " Balfour Declaration ".


Then google " Balfour Declaration deception ". Prepare to be surprised.


Then google this: " Irgun massacre " and see that the Irgun group was responsible for a series of violent attacks, leading up to the King David Hotel Massacre -- google that one as well.


The US has given -- under the direction of the Rothschilds -- some 70+ billion dollars of cash so far to Israel; billions of dollars of military aid that never would be repaid; billions of dollars of loans to Israel that never will be repaid and so on. Israel exists because the Rothschilds want them to -- Israel is a key part in their attempts to create a "war of civilizations" between Islam and the Christian-based worlds, the West.


The Rothschilds studied the Bible very closely, so they used it as a guide to manipulate world events in their favor.



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 09:58 PM
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Turkey is the 2nd largest force in NATO and a secular democratic 99% Muslim country... so dont try to pull the 'only democracy in the middle east' crap...

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Damnit slayer, changing your picture. Now I cant recognise you.
You are correct Israel makes a lot of money in the information market, because they have deep ties all around, and can play both sides. Such as they can sell US info to China in exchange for money and their info, and in turn sell that to the US or say, Japan or Russia. Russia is a big Chinese ally but there is a lot of mistrust, and even border dispute.

In addition they take donated US technology, advance on it, and sell their own to other countries that may have been US customers, because it is cheaper than the Americans.

Officially they are a big US ally because of their dominance of the close area, having many nukes in a place where there are none/few they hold high position. Through them the US can manipulate certain things.



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 10:01 PM
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Jews did what to Germany?

The French and the British screwed Germany over after the war. The French being the worst offenders. It had nothing to do with Jews.

You seriously need to take an objective look at history. You'll find that Jews have been pawns and scapegoats in a much greater game. As long as people like you still fall for the propaganda, the "wizards behind the veil" will remain faceless.



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 10:10 PM
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Khazar Jews?

You do realize that thousands of Non Semite Egyptians came over during the Exodus. Lets not forget King David's Moabite ancestry?

It doesn't matter if they were Samoan Jews!

Jews are Jews. Its a tribal identity as in the Tribe of Judah.

To bring this argument up is worthless and pointless. It only appeals to people who have some kind of idea about Racial Purity and Hygiene.

Racial Purity and Hygiene, Who does that appeal to?

Regardless of that, just for the Racial Purity folks, the majority of European Jews have Semitic ancestry confirmed by genetic analysis.

Either way the Racial Hygiene argument is stupid and false.



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 10:24 PM
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I agree with you except that the Jewish have not infiltrated Hollywood.

The Entertainment Industry in the U.S. was craeted and developed by the Jews and has been controled by them ever since.



posted on Sep, 13 2009 @ 10:26 PM
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Israel is a good way for america to keep it's nose in the middle east. Say what you want biblical, it all comes down to the oil.



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